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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Mar 26, 2007 2:10:41 GMT -5
USOedipus? That's good stuff right there. It's good to know those 4 years of Latin in high school paid off....sort of. Hey, I got a laugh out of it.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Mar 26, 2007 2:44:36 GMT -5
Worst? Hmm, some major contenders not listed there...
The Crossing: Iron Man turns into a murderer, gets killed and is replaced by a teenage version of himself from the past. Wasp almost dies and gets turned into a bug-thing. Thor does...something. Gilgamesh and Yellowjacket II get iced. Whole thing gets wrapped up a few months early to make way for Heroes Reborn.
X-Men: Here Comes Tomorrow - It was great seeing Marc Silvestri on the book again after more than a decade, but the story, Grant Morrison's going-away present to the book, was a great big bag of WTF.
Earth X: Mr. Sinister is really Colossus, Belasco is really Nightcrawler and Wolverine isn't a mutant, he's a caveman.
Peter Parker gets molested by a pedophile as a child.
Aunt May didn't die in one of the most touching death scenes in comic history, it was an actress hired by the Green Goblin!
...and so many more...
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Mar 26, 2007 2:49:14 GMT -5
That actually happened? I always assumed he was just tellin' that story to some young kid, so he'd learn a valuable lesson.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Mar 26, 2007 2:56:50 GMT -5
That actually happened? I always assumed he was just tellin' that story to some young kid, so he'd learn a valuable lesson. Parker'd have to be f'ed in the head to have come up with that whole, detailed story on the fly just to tell a kid "don't let hot older chicks touch your no-no's" Could have been worse though. There was a major writer on the Spider-Man books, whose name I now forget, who wanted it to be revealed that Uncle Ben had done that too. And another writer wanted to have Uncle Ben turn out to be a black market fence, with the burglar being one of his customers.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Mar 26, 2007 2:59:19 GMT -5
That actually happened? I always assumed he was just tellin' that story to some young kid, so he'd learn a valuable lesson. Parker'd have to be f'ed in the head to have come up with that whole, detailed story on the fly just to tell a kid "don't let hot older chicks touch your no-no's" Could have been worse though. There was a major writer on the Spider-Man books, whose name I now forget, who wanted it to be revealed that Uncle Ben had done that too. And another writer wanted to have Uncle Ben turn out to be a black market fence, with the burglar being one of his customers. Good thing neither of those events actually happened. Let Uncle Ben rest in peace, lousy writers! *shakes fist menacingly* And Parker's pretty f'd in the head as is. *shrug*
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Post by Austin's Middle Finger on Mar 26, 2007 5:03:19 GMT -5
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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on Mar 26, 2007 8:46:44 GMT -5
Worst? Hmm, some major contenders not listed there... The Crossing: Iron Man turns into a murderer, gets killed and is replaced by a teenage version of himself from the past. Wasp almost dies and gets turned into a bug-thing. Thor does...something. Gilgamesh and Yellowjacket II get iced. Whole thing gets wrapped up a few months early to make way for Heroes Reborn. X-Men: Here Comes Tomorrow - It was great seeing Marc Silvestri on the book again after more than a decade, but the story, Grant Morrison's going-away present to the book, was a great big bag of WTF. Earth X: Mr. Sinister is really Colossus, Belasco is really Nightcrawler and Wolverine isn't a mutant, he's a caveman. Peter Parker gets molested by a pedophile as a child. Aunt May didn't die in one of the most touching death scenes in comic history, it was an actress hired by the Green Goblin! ...and so many more... I hated it when they made Iron Man a teenager. It made no sense. As for X-Men: Here Comes Tomorrow, I haven't read it but I have seen it and skimmed through it; and it looks really confusing. As for Earth X, WHAT!!!!? Also, Peter Parker being molested made no sense and looked like it was done for comedic value. And, Aunt May dying was a great story. Then, it got ruined. f***!!!!
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Post by Joe Neglia on Mar 26, 2007 9:23:09 GMT -5
Also, Peter Parker being molested made no sense and looked like it was done for comedic value. Not sure if we're talking about the same story, the one I'm referring to certainly wasn't comedic in the slightest: www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/westcott.htm
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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on Mar 26, 2007 9:25:57 GMT -5
Also, Peter Parker being molested made no sense and looked like it was done for comedic value. Not sure if we're talking about the same story, the one I'm referring to certainly wasn't comedic in the slightest: www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/westcott.htmWell, it may have looked comedic from where I saw it; it may have been an issue of Wizard.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Mar 26, 2007 9:29:18 GMT -5
Yeah, but Wizard's tried to make the Holocaust sound funny too.
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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on Mar 26, 2007 9:49:48 GMT -5
Yeah, but Wizard's tried to make the Holocaust sound funny too. Oh, Wizard! Will you ever learn!? ;D No.
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on Mar 26, 2007 10:55:21 GMT -5
Two words:
Maximum Carnage.
I can see the Marvel braintrust during this meeting ...
Marvel exec #1: Hey, Venom is kinda cool, right? How about a BUNCH of him? Over 12 issues!
Marvel exec #2: He's on the verge of overexposure. There's already Carnage, his spawn. If we do more spawns, it'll look ridiculous. How about we concentrate on the strong characters we have?
Marvel exec #3: No, what if we give them all different angles of the Venom suit? Different colors, slightly different powers ... like, 5 or 6 of them! It'll be AWESOME!
Marvel exec #2: But they're still all, at their base, the same character. Same snarly teeth, same drooling, same long tongue ... I'm outnumbered here, aren't I?
All Marvel execs except #2: *nods*
Marvel exec #2: I'm fired, aren't I?
All Marvel execs except #2: *nods again*
Jed Shaffer ~Hal Jordan as Parallax ruled. Get over it, fanboys.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Mar 26, 2007 10:58:27 GMT -5
Yeah, but Wizard's tried to make the Holocaust sound funny too. The only awesome thing that Wizard did with WW2 was unleashing 2 batallions of orcs as footsoldiers for the Nazis.
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Post by jcdenton on Mar 26, 2007 10:58:55 GMT -5
Also, Peter Parker being molested made no sense and looked like it was done for comedic value. Not sure if we're talking about the same story, the one I'm referring to certainly wasn't comedic in the slightest: www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/westcott.htmwhen was that comic published?
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Mar 26, 2007 11:00:53 GMT -5
Two words: Maximum Carnage. I can see the Marvel braintrust during this meeting ... Marvel exec #1: Hey, Venom is kinda cool, right? How about a BUNCH of him? Over 12 issues! Marvel exec #2: He's on the verge of overexposure. There's already Carnage, his spawn. If we do more spawns, it'll look ridiculous. How about we concentrate on the strong characters we have? Marvel exec #3: No, what if we give them all different angles of the Venom suit? Different colors, slightly different powers ... like, 5 or 6 of them! It'll be AWESOME! Marvel exec #2: But they're still all, at their base, the same character. Same snarly teeth, same drooling, same long tongue ... I'm outnumbered here, aren't I? All Marvel execs except #2: *nods* Marvel exec #2: I'm fired, aren't I? All Marvel execs except #2: *nods again* Jed Shaffer ~Hal Jordan as Parallax ruled. Get over it, fanboys. I thought Maximum Carnage was the storyline that introduced Carnage. I agree that this number of symbionts sucked. The only thing that could have been interesting is if one or two had resisted the bond, giving them some depth.
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on Mar 26, 2007 12:11:24 GMT -5
Was it? I thought he was introduced shortly before.
Either way ... POINTLESS. One spawn was barely tolerable (Carnage was much more a blatant heel, but had all the depth of a baby spoon) ... however many thousand were dumped into the Marvel universe in that crossover ... that put me off Spiderman for good.
Jed Shaffer ~Now, maybe if one of the spawns had merged with one of the 4 not-Supermen from the Reign Of ... crossover ...
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Post by erisi236 on Mar 26, 2007 12:17:06 GMT -5
Naa, Carnage was introduced well before "Maximum Carnage". Off hand, Maximum Carnage was another one of those reasons I gave up on Marvel for all those years. Sorry guys but I'm not buying 6 different Spiderman titles just to read a single bloated story. It really irritated me that I couldn't get any continuing stories within a single title, Amazing Spiderman was enough for me.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Mar 26, 2007 12:18:50 GMT -5
But it did give us a Sega Genesis game with Green Jello doing the soundtrack.
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Post by erisi236 on Mar 26, 2007 12:22:39 GMT -5
But it did give us a Sega Genesis game with Green Jello doing the soundtrack. A pretty good song as well I might add. ;D Carnage Rules
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 26, 2007 12:39:13 GMT -5
I remember reading about the possibility of Uncle Ben thing. If anything could kill the character, that'd be it.
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