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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 26, 2007 12:41:58 GMT -5
Maximum Carnage wasn't the story where they introduced all them symbiotes though, that was in the first of Venom's craptastic limited series.
Maximum Carnage was a friggin fourteen issue storyline where Carnage teamed up with a buncha second rate villains, and spidey, Venom, and a buncha hero guest stars did battle with them... for fourteen issues. There was no story as such, it's also the story that the SNES Spidey game was based on.
Carnage sucks.
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on Mar 26, 2007 13:11:25 GMT -5
I still stand by the sucktitude of the series. Carnage sucked, his spawn sucked, the series sucked.
Jed Shaffer ~Kraven>>>any other Spidey villain.
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Post by Chainsaw on Mar 26, 2007 13:24:33 GMT -5
Capwolf.
I win.
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Post by maxx420 on Mar 26, 2007 13:42:56 GMT -5
Worst? Hmm, some major contenders not listed there... The Crossing: Iron Man turns into a murderer, gets killed and is replaced by a teenage version of himself from the past. Wasp almost dies and gets turned into a bug-thing. Thor does...something. Gilgamesh and Yellowjacket II get iced. Whole thing gets wrapped up a few months early to make way for Heroes Reborn. X-Men: Here Comes Tomorrow - It was great seeing Marc Silvestri on the book again after more than a decade, but the story, Grant Morrison's going-away present to the book, was a great big bag of WTF. Earth X: Mr. Sinister is really Colossus, Belasco is really Nightcrawler and Wolverine isn't a mutant, he's a caveman. Peter Parker gets molested by a pedophile as a child. Aunt May didn't die in one of the most touching death scenes in comic history, it was an actress hired by the Green Goblin! ...and so many more... Never read the Spider-Man paedophile story, but all the others were definitely dumb ideas. The Crossing: DON'T F*** WITH THE AVENGERS! Her Comes Tomorrow: I read this arc seven times over & never ever understood what the hell was going on for a second! Earth X: It was never actually revealed that Colossus was Mr. Sinister, though. They just had him say it in one panel, as if it were some useless throwaway line! What was the deal with THAT? I remember reading the Aunt May death story & feeling very moved. People were writing letters saying how touching this was & how they cried when they read it... Then she was brought back! I wasn't reading Spidey at the time, so I like to pretend she's still dead.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Mar 26, 2007 15:37:51 GMT -5
Maximum Carnage did suck, but I still like Carnage.
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Post by Joker on Mar 26, 2007 16:08:53 GMT -5
I still like Carnage ... Damm you Sentry!! ------------------- Have to go with the Clone Saga really ... that was horrendous. I'm noticing an absence of Hulk here .. surely he must have been involved in a story arc or plot that was absurd or awful?
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Mar 26, 2007 16:20:16 GMT -5
I'll have to go with the Post-Zero Hour Batman.
The era where he was considered to be an "urban legend", and where Denny O'Neil (editor of the Batman line at the time) tried to bar him from all incarnations of the JLA, past, present, and future.
Here are some of the elements from DKR that Denny tried to force into Batman's post-Crisis continuity:
*Jerkass Batman *Jason Todd gets killed *The tense relationship between Bats and Supes *The "urban legend" angle
This is not a knock on DKR, though I have to admit that I've only read parts of it.
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Post by maxx420 on Mar 26, 2007 16:22:53 GMT -5
I still like Carnage ... Damm you Sentry!! ------------------- Have to go with the Clone Saga really ... that was horrendous. I'm noticing an absence of Hulk here .. surely he must have been involved in a story arc or plot that was absurd or awful? How about when The Hulk was calm & rational & he transformed into Bruce Banner when he was angry?
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 26, 2007 17:10:56 GMT -5
Her Comes Tomorrow: I read this arc seven times over & never ever understood what the hell was going on for a second! yup, sounds like Grant Morrison alright
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Post by Joe Neglia on Mar 26, 2007 17:46:55 GMT -5
when was that comic published? 1984.
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Post by algertman on Mar 26, 2007 17:50:10 GMT -5
House of M. Wtf was the point of that? Some MARVEL editors admitted HofM was in respnse to DC doing the Countdoon to Infinite Crisis at the time.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Mar 26, 2007 18:44:23 GMT -5
tying into the Hal Jordan option, his return a couple years ago making Parallax into some sort of alien parasite that changed him instead of him going insane and almost destroying the universe was completely stupid since it basically said that nothing he did in his time as Parallax was his fault so that makes him a hero again by default and his attempt at redemption in Final Night where he temporarily died before becoming the Spectre becomes cheapened. I voted for this one since I'm not much of a Spidey reader so luckily I didnt suffer through the various character assasinations the character went through over the years Agreed 100% I actually enjoyed the Emerald Twilight storyarc immensly, it made Hal Jordan more of a sympathietic character then he had ever been, and the whole "he wasn't Parallax, he was being controlled by parallax" thing was LAME LAME LAME and is one of the reasons I don't read comics regularly anymore.
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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on Mar 26, 2007 20:34:45 GMT -5
I still like Carnage ... Damm you Sentry!! ------------------- Have to go with the Clone Saga really ... that was horrendous. I'm noticing an absence of Hulk here .. surely he must have been involved in a story arc or plot that was absurd or awful? How about when The Hulk was calm & rational & he transformed into Bruce Banner when he was angry? Oh yeah, that was stupid.
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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on Mar 26, 2007 20:37:22 GMT -5
Jed Shaffer ~Hal Jordan as Parallax ruled. Get over it, fanboys. I believe most of the Parallax hate isn't over that Hal Jordan was Parallax but rather that Parallax was a parasite that took over Jordan. And, that was stupid as it killed the redemption he gain by sacrificing himself to save the world because all the things he did as Parallax "wasn't his fault".
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on Mar 27, 2007 7:56:13 GMT -5
I remember when the Zero Hour/Emerald Twilight stuff went down, way before Parallax was revealed as a parasite, and fanboys were up in arms over Hal turning heel. They acted like it was a crime against the world. They didn't see how compelling and original the idea was. More hate may have come after the retcon, but even when it launched, the backlash was almost unanimous and instantaneous.
Jed Shaffer ~However, the backlash against his replacement? Justified.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Mar 27, 2007 9:42:14 GMT -5
I remember when the Zero Hour/Emerald Twilight stuff went down, way before Parallax was revealed as a parasite, and fanboys were up in arms over Hal turning heel. They acted like it was a crime against the world. They didn't see how compelling and original the idea was. More hate may have come after the retcon, but even when it launched, the backlash was almost unanimous and instantaneous. Jed Shaffer ~However, the backlash against his replacement? Justified. I actually thought the character Parallax was really interesting. The respect he had for Alan Scott was a different approach to a villian. He was just so heartbroken that he just wanted to restart everything. What is so wrong with that? Oh, in order to restart he had to destroy all of existance?
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Post by "St. Louis Viper" Buck Summers on Mar 27, 2007 22:27:28 GMT -5
Sometimes you gotta break a few eggs to make an omlet.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Mar 27, 2007 22:30:45 GMT -5
Sometimes you gotta break a few eggs to make an omlet. Technically, he was trying to break a few omelets to make an egg.
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Post by "St. Louis Viper" Buck Summers on Mar 27, 2007 23:08:06 GMT -5
Sometimes you gotta break a few eggs to make an omlet. Technically, he was trying to break a few omelets to make an egg. Look, we can sit here all night and argue about what eggs were being used, or we can just agree, Hal Jordan is the man. Even if he is a pedophile.
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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on Mar 27, 2007 23:13:33 GMT -5
Technically, he was trying to break a few omelets to make an egg. Look, we can sit here all night and argue about what eggs were being used, or we can just agree, Hal Jordan is the man. Even if he is a pedophile. WHAT!!!!?
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