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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jun 12, 2022 12:34:36 GMT -5
Also BioSyn is so on the nose it feels like the name was part of a first draft.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 12, 2022 17:37:48 GMT -5
The fact that the movie doesn't end {Spoiler}with dinosaurs wiping out humanity or vice versa is the most unbelievable aspect. Who's ever going to fly again with packs of Quetzalcoatlus roaming the skies? Or get on a boat when there's a chance of the Mosasaurus showing up? And Velociraptors and Tyrannosaurs roaming free? f*** that. |
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Post by chazraps on Jun 12, 2022 19:20:16 GMT -5
The fact that the movie doesn't end {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}with dinosaurs wiping out humanity or vice versa is the most unbelievable aspect. Who's ever going to fly again with packs of Quetzalcoatlus roaming the skies? Or get on a boat when there's a chance of the Mosasaurus showing up? And Velociraptors and Tyrannosaurs roaming free? f*** that. {Spoiler}Well, from the past two years, it seems a significant chunk of humanity will never meet a problem with anything more than ignoring it and just acting like it's not disrupting their lives. |
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Post by Glitch on Jun 13, 2022 2:35:29 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Release the not-locust cut! |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 13, 2022 2:47:01 GMT -5
This is about the trailer, as I haven't seen the film yet: I understand they're basically just Frankenstein monsters, but I am really confused with the motivations of the creatures when attacking planes, etc. They don't eat metal or anything, so what's in it for them to tear a plane apart? Is it just belligerence about sharing the sky with what they might mistake for another large creature? Because it's not like dinosaurs are/were demons or something, animals still need to be motivated to do something that eats up a lot of energy and puts them at personal risk.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 13, 2022 6:26:29 GMT -5
This is about the trailer, as I haven't seen the film yet: I understand they're basically just Frankenstein monsters, but I am really confused with the motivations of the creatures when attacking planes, etc. They don't eat metal or anything, so what's in it for them to tear a plane apart? Is it just belligerence about sharing the sky with what they might mistake for another large creature? Because it's not like dinosaurs are/were demons or something, animals still need to be motivated to do something that eats up a lot of energy and puts them at personal risk. It's the same principle, I think, of a Shark seeing someone on a surfboard and it resembling a seal. An Airplane resembles a large bird enough, that they attack it on sight, not being able to tell that it's metal until they initially rip into it, and even then it might be hard for them to comprehend that it isn't a living thing until well, it's out of the air or blown up. So I chalk it up as more instinct than malicious intent, and maybe even territorial instincts of "Get out of my airspace" for the plane instances. |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jun 13, 2022 8:33:08 GMT -5
Also BioSyn is so on the nose it feels like the name was part of a first draft. Blame Michael Crichton when you make it to the other side one day. |
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Post by ppl591 on Jun 14, 2022 22:52:37 GMT -5
I enjoyed it much more than fallen kingdom but when the story would jump back and forth between the old and new characters I wished it'd just stick to the original characters. Though baby blue was cute as heck
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Post by Glitch on Jun 15, 2022 7:19:36 GMT -5
So I've been wondering, was the locust part originally part of an unrelated script for some other movie that was rejected? Like maybe it was just like that one guy who wanted a giant spider in a movie, no matter what that movie was. The locust guy similarly really wanted his locusts i na movie, no matter how shoe horned it would be.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 15, 2022 7:39:41 GMT -5
So I've been wondering, was the locust part originally part of an unrelated script for some other movie that was rejected? Like maybe it was just like that one guy who wanted a giant spider in a movie, no matter what that movie was. The locust guy similarly really wanted his locusts i na movie, no matter how shoe horned it would be. I'll never not click like on a reference to this. Spiders are the fiercest killers in the animal kingdom. |
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Post by msc on Jun 16, 2022 11:54:26 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}
First off, the rapid camera movements were really tricky to follow. I get its to immerse you in the action, but I struggle with Quantum of Solace's 70000 camera cuts a minute, and there were moments in this one I had the same issue - primarily in the parachute segment. The action was very fast, and sometimes you felt it could have done with time to breath. There wasn't time to breath. It was like The Lord of the Rings films as one 2 1/2 hour event.
That said, I felt they did well getting the main cast together. Pratt/Howard and Dern/Neill got plenty of time to shine, and Jeff Goldblum was basically playing the wisecracking Jeff Goldblum character his fans pay to see. What surprised me is that complete cast armour protected one and all - the moments where in previous films the comic foil, or the sacrificial friend, would meet their maker, instead the cavalry arrived. It felt like a film that wanted to make good on what fans considered the errors of the previous films.
So, yes, the biggest ship in all of Jurassic Park arrived, much to my sister's delight, as she's been rooting for that for well over 20 years now.
I also thought it was a nice touch to bring in the main bad guy from the books, Lewis Dodgson. He appears in the first book and the first film, as the man financing Nedry's attempt to steal the DNA. (And note the book end between Nedry's fate and Dodgson's. Although I thought they were going to nab the same fate he suffered in the Crichton book, and am bitterly disappointed I cannot use the phrase "Chekhov's Velociraptor" for you.) It's not the same actor, as the original got Yewtree in the 29 years since we saw Jurassic Park at the cinema. The new guy playing the role is basically playing him as an evil Steve Jobs, which was an interesting decision which raised a smile from me!
But what you want from a Jurassic Park film is different to what you want from other films. I love art as you know, but if i want art, I go to Citizen Kane or Otto Preminger. For this, I go for the dinosaurs. And we had a proper smorgasbord of them.
If you've seen Avengers Assemble, you ain't seen nothing on Raptors Assemble. All the different breeds show up at various points. My favourite bit included a Pyroraptor on a frozen lake (as seen in the trailers, but the trailers smartly axed the best bits of that scene, as it hunts for Chris Pratt in quite a clever way. I don't want to spoil it even in a spoiler warning post.
There were other raptors which I am insisting were Deinonychus, because if you can't be interested in dinosaur films, what can you be interested in, I say?
The big new monster is the Gigantosaurus, but, I see in these films an attempt to apologise for Jurassic Park III.
It's also curious to see the evolution of the films. In the first one, the T.Rex has to be fundamentally noble as an apex predator, and it saves the day. Why? Because T.Rex is the big dinosaur star, and kids have spent over a hundred years playing with it. Of course she's the hero of the series, she's the Jurassic Park John Wayne. (And I thought they were going to make the cardinal error of JPIII with the T. Rex, but fake out!)
With the Jurassic World trilogy, a generation of kids have grown up playing with Jurassic Park toys. The best selling merchandise was for the Raptors. So when the series came back, now the Velociraptors are noble apex predators like the T.Rex, and the antagonist monsters must be other, lesser known (or fictional in 2 of 3 cases) dinosaurs!
To sum up, bit fast at times and could have done with more breath, and the bunny scene is really not child friendly, and yes, how did those Rexes get into Malta? (I assume they escaped from the illegal den btw) And BD Wong's 11th hour turn to the good side could have been foreshadowed more. But at the end of the day, fans of this series wanted to see lots of dinosaurs, and for all their favourite characters, human and dinosaurs, to have happy endings.
We got lots of dinosaurs. And happy endings.
And one of the bad guys did a karma Houdini so there's a route into Jurassic World IV.
I know a lot of the critics hated this film, but I think they missed why people seem to like it. There are millions of people who love dinosaurs, yes, but there's millions who were raised on that original trilogy and have emotional connection to these characters they grew up with. I was seven when I saw the first film in the cinema with Dad. It was my generations Star Wars. So if you view Dominion like a normal film, it may be an overly action packed thriller. But you need to see it for what it is, the final chapter in the story of a bunch of characters that a whole bunch of people love. Drs Grant and Sattler, Ian Malcolm, Owen and Claire, and especially that T Rex. It's like Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels in the retirement match. On its own, it's a spectacle but you need that layer and passage of times worth of context which makes it. As the last chapter in an epic decades long story, I think it did a great job.
And unlike Star Wars, they didn't need to kill anyone off. tl/dr - I quite enjoyed it, despite some flaws. My first visit to the cinema in sixteen years, too! |
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Jul 19, 2022 21:07:12 GMT -5
I didn’t like the ending to Fallen Kingdom (or the second half of that film in general) but when I thought about this one I started to see the possibilities of Dinosaurs in a human world and thought we could get some cool possibilities
World in flux due to cities getting torn apart from Dinosaurs rampaging, battles and chases through the cities etc
Instead we got the locusts…..and the clone who isn’t a clone….yey
Picked up a bit from Malta onwards but they could have cut at least half of what was in the film before that and saved everyone a bit of time
Edit: Also Wu a good guy now…….Ex-squeeze me?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 19, 2022 22:12:37 GMT -5
I didn’t like the ending to Fallen Kingdom (or the second half of that film in general) but when I thought about this one I started to see the possibilities of Dinosaurs in a human world and thought we could get some cool possibilities World in flux due to cities getting torn apart from Dinosaurs rampaging, battles and chases through the cities etc Instead we got the locusts…..and the clone who isn’t a clone….yey Picked up a bit from Malta onwards but they could have cut at least half of what was in the film before that and saved everyone a bit of time Edit: Also Wu a good guy now…….Ex-squeeze me? So much dumb shit in this movie. A plague of prehistoric locusts that eat all crops except those produced by the only company engaged in genetic research and de-extinction of prehistoric animals? Like, if the immune seeds were produced by a shell of a shell of a shell of a shell company, I could buy it. But seeds sold directly by BioSyn? How is every country on Earth not breaking down their door to investigate them? What shady genetic engineering magnate hires noted anti-genetic engineering rabble rouser Ian Malcolm for some unspecified role and is then surprised to discover Malcolm betrays him? Oh yeah, and I'm sure nothing bad will come of letting an apex predator that Owen can barely control roam the Sierra Nevada producing offspring. |
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Post by Muskrat on Jul 19, 2022 23:54:41 GMT -5
Maybe it was the alcohol in my system, and I didn't get to finish the movie that night because the power went out due to a vicious storm here, but man I was really not feeling this movie at all. The stuff with Satler, Grant and Malcolm I enjoyed and they had just met up with Pratt and BDH when it cut out, but I thought this movie was a bit of a mess. Was enjoying it more as it went on, but f*** it felt soooooooo slow to start
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 20, 2022 0:35:12 GMT -5
Maybe it was the alcohol in my system, and I didn't get to finish the movie that night because the power went out due to a vicious storm here, but man I was really not feeling this movie at all. The stuff with Satler, Grant and Malcolm I enjoyed and they had just met up with Pratt and BDH when it cut out, but I thought this movie was a bit of a mess. Was enjoying it more as it went on, but f*** it felt soooooooo slow to start Nedry cut the power. |
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Post by Muskrat on Jul 20, 2022 8:04:53 GMT -5
So, in what must be pure karma for dirting this movie, I had the most lucid, f***ed up dream that lasted basically my entire sleep last night that involved getting chased around by dinosaurs the whole time. You do not get a good sleep when that happens. Still can’t figure out how those raptors were getting into every goddamn house I tried to hide in
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 20, 2022 17:02:30 GMT -5
So, in what must be pure karma for dirting this movie, I had the most lucid, f***ed up dream that lasted basically my entire sleep last night that involved getting chased around by dinosaurs the whole time. You do not get a good sleep when that happens. Still can’t figure out how those raptors were getting into every goddamn house I tried to hide in They can open doors. |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jul 20, 2022 18:23:27 GMT -5
So, in what must be pure karma for dirting this movie, I had the most lucid, f***ed up dream that lasted basically my entire sleep last night that involved getting chased around by dinosaurs the whole time. You do not get a good sleep when that happens. Still can’t figure out how those raptors were getting into every goddamn house I tried to hide in Sounds like that damn dream I had when I was younger when I had a gang of damn Gremlins after me. Thanks for nothing Gizmo. |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Sept 5, 2022 2:22:25 GMT -5
After watching the Extended Cut on Peacock…am I the only one that figured that during Beta’s absence from the story that he was off acting like an asshole cat knocking BioSyn employee’s coffee mugs off their desks?
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Sept 5, 2022 6:12:56 GMT -5
Why did they devote so much of the movie to shitty locusts? Nobody cares. Give us the dinosaurs.
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