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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 5, 2024 0:11:58 GMT -5
While AEW is clearly a part of it, and this all kind of reads strangely to me, but sounds like the bigger issue was either encouraging wrestlers to leave or planning an exodus like All Japan experienced multiple times. Now Tony drunk tweeting doesn't help and there was always clearly issues there, but I get the impression this is less WWE/AEW than Bushiroad vs Rossy I think the other issue people are taking from this is that...Rossy was more or less funneling his talent that had stateside asperations to anywhere else except AEW. Now there are a few holes in that arguement...mainly the likes of Utami on ROH which while not any of the main AEW shows is still run and operated by TK regardless. I won't pretend to know everything going on behind the scenes but based on how people in STARDOM reacted to reports that Megan Bayne was "on loan" from AEW it was quire clear that there was something weird going on.
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Post by Killah Ray on Feb 5, 2024 0:12:26 GMT -5
Yeah I'm not really sure this is a WWE/AEW thing other than TK being a dick on Twitter, and more of an All Japan situation brewing....
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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 5, 2024 0:15:02 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2024 0:17:59 GMT -5
Yeah I'm not really sure this is a WWE/AEW thing other than TK being a dick on Twitter, and more of an All Japan situation brewing.... Yea , with multiple reports coming out that Rossy is not infact going to WWE then this is strictly a Rossy Vs Bushiroad issue now. And Rossy is going to win this because of the sheer loyalty alot of those women have to him that will follow him to his new company if he starts one or he simply just helps funnel them to getting consistent stateside work.
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Post by Killah Ray on Feb 5, 2024 0:20:08 GMT -5
Yeah I'm not really sure this is a WWE/AEW thing other than TK being a dick on Twitter, and more of an All Japan situation brewing.... Yea , with multiple reports coming out that Rossy is not infact going to WWE then this is strictly a Rossy Vs Bushiroad issue now. And Rossy is going to win this because of the sheer loyalty alot of those women have to him that will follow him to his new company if he starts one or he simply just helps funnel them to getting consistent stateside work. Yeah it's wild...Giulia seems like a lock to be going to the E and seems like AZM has dropped little hints here and there as well....as loaded as that roster is, this power struggle is gonna give some companies a wealth of riches based on how this goes....
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Post by Error on Feb 5, 2024 0:20:42 GMT -5
So if he had a 5 year no compete was it from the same date in 2019, meaning he could start working again later this year, or from now meaning nothing until 2029?
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Post by Killah Ray on Feb 5, 2024 0:22:40 GMT -5
So if he had a 5 year no compete was it from the same date in 2019, meaning he could start working again later this year, or from now meaning nothing until 2029? The way I read it, I think it means he can start up a company this year....
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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 5, 2024 0:23:16 GMT -5
So if he had a 5 year no compete was it from the same date in 2019, meaning he could start working again later this year, or from now meaning nothing until 2029? I had questions about that too. Like what do they consider no compete? Like in wrestling at all, rival company, creating new one?
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 5, 2024 0:23:26 GMT -5
Also accroding to SRS, when some of the WWE women heard the "ROSSY TO WWE" rumors their reaction was disgust. So yeah. Asuka might become a literal killer clown if she catches him backstage. I don't really pay much attention to joshi promotion politics because it gives me a headache. But did Rossy and Asuka have a big falling out or something?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2024 0:23:57 GMT -5
So if he had a 5 year no compete was it from the same date in 2019, meaning he could start working again later this year, or from now meaning nothing until 2029? I believe it was from the time BushiRoad bought STARDOM. So he can start up his own company if he wants.
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 5, 2024 0:26:24 GMT -5
I don't think Rossy would be trying to poach talent and staff if he had to sit on his hands for 5 years after getting fired. Especially since STARDOM is like NJPW where they don't really sign anyone to longer term contracts besides Mayu Iwatani.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2024 0:26:33 GMT -5
Asuka might become a literal killer clown if she catches him backstage. I don't really pay much attention to joshi promotion politics because it gives me a headache. But did Rossy and Asuka have a big falling out or something? This goes all the way back to Asuka's manifesto and her relationship with Nanae Takahashi. There are others on here that can detail it way better than I can but in short it is less she has an issue with Rossy and more on her personal perception of how Joshi wrestling should be and she did not agree with STARDOM's direction when it first started up.
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Post by EZ: Broken Bae on Feb 5, 2024 0:29:02 GMT -5
Not familiar with Stardom but from reading the thread it sounds absolutely idiotic for BushiRoad to not have an adequate booker as a backup plan if they've been trying to oust Rossy for months. A merch manager and a president corporate suit (assuming that's all Okada has experience in) is .... rough. At least try to get a loyalist wrestler or veteran on board.
Is the implication that Rossy is going to start his own promotion ASAP? If most of the contracts expire in March then doesn't that jeopardize the Philly show? Wild.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2024 0:29:35 GMT -5
Yea , with multiple reports coming out that Rossy is not infact going to WWE then this is strictly a Rossy Vs Bushiroad issue now. And Rossy is going to win this because of the sheer loyalty alot of those women have to him that will follow him to his new company if he starts one or he simply just helps funnel them to getting consistent stateside work. Yeah it's wild...Giulia seems like a lock to be going to the E and seems like AZM has dropped little hints here and there as well....as loaded as that roster is, this power struggle is gonna give some companies a wealth of riches based on how this goes.... Oh AZM would be immediately WWE bound because of IYO and the same with starlight kid and Utami. The respect for IYO by those women is almost as strong if not stronger in some cases than the loyalty to Rossy and she is very much loyal to Rossy so you can see how that all flows.
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Post by mistery on Feb 5, 2024 0:32:38 GMT -5
Not familiar with Stardom but from reading the thread it sounds absolutely idiotic for BushiRoad to not have an adequate booker as a backup plan if they've been trying to oust Rossy for months. A merch manager and a president corporate suit (assuming that's all Okada has experience in) is .... rough. At least try to get a loyalist wrestler or veteran on board. Is the implication that Rossy is going to start his own promotion ASAP? If most of the contracts expire in March then doesn't that jeopardize the Philly show? Wild. Bushiroad is basically a three ring circus right now in terms of management. I will write more of an effortpost in the morning (as its 12:30 AM here now) if people are truly interested in how incompetent Bushiroad actually is, but you could write a thesis on how unbelievably bad Bushiroad is at management/running things.
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Post by Helen of Jasper Troy on Feb 5, 2024 0:34:32 GMT -5
I can't believe there's still like a decent amount of people that think that there's like zero drama in Japanese wrestling and everything is just chill all the time.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Feb 5, 2024 0:35:02 GMT -5
Because Tony books 1 women's match a show?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 5, 2024 0:36:45 GMT -5
I can't believe there's still like a decent amount of people that think that there's like zero drama in Japanese wrestling and everything is just chill all the time. It's why I love Kim Justice's wrestling youtube channel. You learn so much about the stuff that goes on behind the scenes
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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 5, 2024 0:38:11 GMT -5
Because Tony books 1 women's match a show? I think the implication is Rossy was causing issues.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Feb 5, 2024 0:39:09 GMT -5
Because Tony books 1 women's match a show? I think the implication is Rossy was causing issues. I know, just being a smartass, I'm doing anything to avoid working and it's 5:30am, on the all nighter 🤣
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