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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Aug 20, 2020 12:57:23 GMT -5
I wish this board didn’t have such a strong doomsday whining ethos. So sorry that people are concerned about spreading a virus that’s killed hundreds of thousands. We really should be more concerned that fake wrestling is worse without a crowd.
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Post by flowercity on Aug 20, 2020 13:06:43 GMT -5
I wish this board didn’t have such a strong doomsday whining ethos. So sorry that people are concerned about spreading a virus that’s killed hundreds of thousands. Give me strength. Individuals should be allowed to asses the risk of a situation and make their own choices. The crowd is going to be nowhere near the talent, and all AEW personnel will be fine. And it’s not as if people do not know the apparent risk involved at this point. It is an outdoors venue where masks and distancing will be required. The likelihood of it spreading in those conditions is so slim. For whatever reason tho, people refuse to assign individual responsibility to any of this. Covid isn’t going away. It will be here for years, if not forever. We have to learn how to live with the virus. If you want to stay home, and that makes you feel better, then do it! But please, if you are someone who is trying to make the point about doing everything possible to limit the virus then I hope you’re not ordering food for takeout, buying anything manufactured in factories, or shopping at grocery stores. By doing any of those things then you are putting low wage workers with no health insurance at serious risk. Those are the places rocked by this virus. If you want to make the case to do everything possible to prevent the spread, then I hope you’re following your own advice.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Aug 20, 2020 13:08:25 GMT -5
For what it's worth and I know this was asked, there are less than 25 reported cases of COVID that have been traced back to Sturgis. I suspect that number will, of course, rise, but for those wondering, that's where they are right now.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 20, 2020 13:09:21 GMT -5
This is reckless and stupid. But then, AEW is far from the only reckless and stupid entity doing this, especially in Florida. Like if this was being done in New York or New Jersey, I'd feel better about it. But Florida is a clusterf***.
Pretending a pandemic that's killed over 170,000 people in the United States alone doesn't exist won't make it go away. It's a failure of our government and our society.
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Post by schizo on Aug 20, 2020 13:11:21 GMT -5
I wish this board didn’t have such a strong doomsday whining ethos. Kinda agree like, any small move anyone does to try to ease things back to normal we have to be reminded that it's DOOM AND GLOOM! OUT THERE" like, we don't need to be reminded of that shit every second of our life and a little escape from this shitty new reality helps a lot. Iam really tired of hearing about how opening up this and that is a terrible idea like, if they think it's the right time to ease restrictions them let them?. People know the risk and guidelines put in place. Let some of us have a little escape and not be reminded that it's a shitty world out there. Sorry, but that's my take
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Post by flowercity on Aug 20, 2020 13:13:03 GMT -5
I wish this board didn’t have such a strong doomsday whining ethos. Kinda agree like, any small move anyone does to try to ease things back to normal we have to be reminded that it's DOOM AND GLOOM! OUT THERE" like, we don't need to be reminded of that shit every second of our life and a little escape from this shitty new reality helps a lot. Iam really tired of hearing about how opening up this and that is a terrible idea like, if they think it's the right time to ease restrictions them let them?. People know the risk and guidelines put in place. Let some of us have a little escape and not be reminded that it's a shitty world out there. Sorry, but that's my take Dont mention the rise in overdose deaths from last year. There’s no way it can be linked to people being forced to stay indoors and isolated, causing them to turn to drugs. That reality isn’t allowed to be talked about.
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Post by Derk! on Aug 20, 2020 13:15:07 GMT -5
When it comes to the talent, AEW has taken this very seriously to the point of them not having Tony Schiavone appear just because they didn't get his results back in time. I'm still iffy on them having fans, but I hope should there be an outbreak (God forbid) because of this, Tony Khan would be smart enough to close the set again.. Forgot about Jericho...touché, MOST talent, then.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 20, 2020 13:15:31 GMT -5
I get the fear and apprehension some will have. Its a slippery slope.
I wont blame anybody who doesn't want 6o be sick. I also won't blame anybody who wants to try to move to the next step in recovery provided they have a plan in place.
The big issue of course is that this is going on in Florida. If AEW has protocol in place and is strict, they can get away with it at Dailey's Place. They just have to be ready to deal with the backlash too
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Post by schizo on Aug 20, 2020 13:18:28 GMT -5
Kinda agree like, any small move anyone does to try to ease things back to normal we have to be reminded that it's DOOM AND GLOOM! OUT THERE" like, we don't need to be reminded of that shit every second of our life and a little escape from this shitty new reality helps a lot. Iam really tired of hearing about how opening up this and that is a terrible idea like, if they think it's the right time to ease restrictions them let them?. People know the risk and guidelines put in place. Let some of us have a little escape and not be reminded that it's a shitty world out there. Sorry, but that's my take Dont mention the rise in overdose deaths from last year. There’s no way it can be linked to people being forced to stay indoors and isolated, causing them to turn to drugs. That reality isn’t allowed to be talked about. Being Lockdown for months can take a mental toll on people, I've seen it first hand and it sucks. It's just as harmful as going out on public without a mask but I guess that's not the narrative we're pushing here But hey, suck it up right?
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Post by Zombie Mod is not a ghoul. on Aug 20, 2020 13:51:51 GMT -5
I wish this board didn’t have such a strong doomsday whining ethos. and I wish people wouldnt take passive aggressive shots at others on these boards, but here we are. see you in a couple of days.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Aug 20, 2020 13:54:29 GMT -5
One other thought on all of this - if they're really going to do this, they shouldn't let anyone in that doesn't have a Florida license. Every last person. They need to make that clear right away.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 20, 2020 14:00:54 GMT -5
Having looked at the map AEW released and seeing the requirements, it does at least look like a there is a plan in place. Whether it is executed properly remains to be seen
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Aug 20, 2020 14:04:42 GMT -5
The world has to adapt to live with the virus. Can't be on lockdown forever, fans have to be back one way or another, this is a good start If the world could be on proper lockdown for a brief period and this virus was dealt with, we wouldn't need eternal lockdown. If people keep bblowing this and rushing into unsafe shit, nothing is going to ever get better. It's just as harmful as going out on public without a mask No it's not.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 20, 2020 14:06:12 GMT -5
So dumb
You don't dictate the virus. We keep pushing the envelope in America like we past this shit when it isn't the case
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Post by Dub H on Aug 20, 2020 14:08:53 GMT -5
The world has to adapt to live with the virus. Can't be on lockdown forever, fans have to be back one way or another, this is a good start The world has adapted and thats why they are getting to have limited fans now. The United States has not adapted and is just trying to force things anyway. Pretty much, USA(And Brazil where I live) didnt do squat shit to deal with the virus and now wanna act as if they did and everything can start to adapt. This would be fine if the country did what it was supposed to but they didnt.AEW doesnt need fans in the arena.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Aug 20, 2020 14:11:50 GMT -5
Anybody who's going to hammer on about personal responsbility/choice after the past six months that prove how much some people just aren't going to give a shit is making a laughably bad argument and it's not even worth engaging with. People aren't going to listen. People aren't going to care. Some people have actively refused and rejected measures every step along the way. There are ways this is dealt with, and then there's opening up in a hotbed while cases in that region are spiking. This is not a strong argument given the way the situation has played out, and to not only try to holler on something that doesn't really stand up, but for the people doing it with as much condescension as they can for the people who want this to be played smart are on some real bullshit. This isn't being condescending over a pro wrestling show, this is real f***ing life.
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Post by Tenshigure on Aug 20, 2020 14:15:04 GMT -5
This is reckless and stupid. But then, AEW is far from the only reckless and stupid entity doing this, especially in Florida. Like if this was being done in New York or New Jersey, I'd feel better about it. But Florida is a clusterf***. Pretending a pandemic that's killed over 170,000 people in the United States alone doesn't exist won't make it go away. It's a failure of our government and our society. Exactly my feeling. The way most states are handling the pandemic, they're only opening public areas and ventures after a certain metric (ie a reduction in number of reported new cases per 14 days). Florida continues to break records with the number of INCREASED cases each passing week. **** Also, just to put this out there: anyone who thinks that negative backlash to this action is "needless whining" needs to get the hell off these boards and get a reality check and, as respectfully as I can without getting banned myself, leave the site altogether. There are many of us on this very board who have lost loved ones to COVID. There are others who have even been infected with the virus as well. It's been almost 6 months of this crap; to still hand-wave off the concerns like that is not only disrespectful, it's downright f***ing stupidity. Just because government leadership has failed society, doesn't mean society has to play into this nonsense and get people killed quicker as a result. I don't wish harm to come to any of you or your loved ones, but I just hope that none of you wake up tomorrow to become another statistic of this needless continuing bullshit. **** AEW was already losing its sheen with allowing Jericho to wrestle, opening to the public when Florida has shown no signs of improving is even worse. I get they need to make a profit, but there are better ways of doing it, especially in a state that refuses to care for their populace.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 20, 2020 14:19:33 GMT -5
Anybody who's going to hammer on about personal responsbility after the past six months that prove how much some people just aren't going to give a shit is making a laughably bad argument and it's not even worth engaging with. People aren't going to listen. People aren't going to care. Some people have actively refused and rejected measures every step along the way. There are ways this is dealt with, and then there's opening up in a hotbed while cases in that region are spiking. This is not a strong argument given the way the situation has played out, and to not only try to holler on something that doesn't really stand up, but for the people doing it with as much condescension as they can for the people who want this to be played smart are on some real bullshit. This isn't being condescending over a pro wrestling show, this is real f***ing life. The end all be all question is, do we need fans at a wrestling show right now while this shit is still surging? The answer is no. The major American sports are all playing without fans right now. Wrestling is not special enough to need a crowd. Baseball has had problems due to traveling, some college sports are saying wait until Spring and the NBA/NHL have been the smartest in creating their own bubble. EVen the NFL is like nah we going to wait and see This is an unnecessary risk for no gain whatsoever. Florida is still a big hot spot. If you think you taking enough precautions you're not. This is just really selfish and part of the bigger problem of why we aren't passed this in America yet. Everybody wants to be for them and not take this seriously like we should be at this point.
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Post by The Trashman on Aug 20, 2020 14:23:09 GMT -5
The craziest part is I haven't seen 1 U.S. wrestling company even do the sanitizing that NJPW does during the show.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2020 14:23:15 GMT -5
I just don’t see the benefit as being worth the risk, and it’s not even close really. The shows haven’t been noticeably worse without fans. I don’t think you need to rush people back in the stands, especially in Florida.
Yes life has to go on, but we don’t even have a handle on this virus yet. We’ve been f***ing up at every turn. I wouldn’t risk putting people, even though they’re willing, at risk.
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