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Post by Cyno on Aug 21, 2020 13:27:43 GMT -5
Ticketmaster was a mistake.
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Post by markymark on Aug 21, 2020 15:17:09 GMT -5
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Post by Cyno on Aug 21, 2020 15:23:28 GMT -5
Good to see AEW try and put the kibosh on resales.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Aug 21, 2020 15:24:17 GMT -5
People, yesterday and for months: People will be responsible, we can't stop living our lives. The news, today: People are already ruining everything, because people will already ruin everything.
Sorry, we shouldn't have live wrestling shows right now. That's not something we need or deserve, and the fact that immediately, people are doing stupid shit that's going to undermine the measures put in place, is exactly the problem here. If you're on about how we can't have "narratives" about the dark sides of quarantine, you're being vile. Nobody thinks this is paradise. Nobody wants this. Almost everybody who has to live like this hates it and is not doing well because of it. But this doesn't end unless we do it. That's the simple reality. We don't determine when this virus goes away by deciding it's time to return back to normal, and everyone who has suffered and sat there slowly losing their minds has seen all of that effort wasted by these surges in cases. People f***ed things up step by step and did things that made sure this didn't actually go away, and now we have people getting sick again and the entire point of spending months locked down has become a miserable waste.
You really need to see people? Go meet up with a few friends at a public park. Have a barbecue with a couple people over. But if you really care about the dark side of quarantine and don't just want to use it as a gotcha to try and force everything 'back to normal' then this is the worst thing you can ask for, because this is how we all go right back on lockdown again after an even bigger resurgence. Anybody trying to use the toll this is taking on people as some kind of cheap argumentative tactic is on some shit, because we're all suffering, and the implication we're not is a huge insult to the sacrifices being made for a greater good. I see stuff like Ticketmaster allowing reselling, and I don't just see a potential spike in cases for people who might not make it if they get it, I see the uptick in numbers that pushes everybody back home for another long, miserable period.
Edit: In the time it took me to type that, the above news came out. Good. My points all still stand because people trying to circumvent that in the first place is why we can't just let people "make their own choices".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 15:51:20 GMT -5
Already see people in the comments on Tony’s post calling this move “ethical”. We have different definitions of the word, I guess. Not having fans at a show during the height of a pandemic would be ethical, by my standards.
Also the quickness with which they acted on this only furthers my frustration with how they’ve handled Darby and Roberts.
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Post by markymark on Aug 21, 2020 16:27:02 GMT -5
I dont know why continue bringing Darby after he was taken off the show after DON for almost 2 months (probably to check his background and also him solve his relationship with Priscilla).
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Post by Jacy Jayne Atomic Dog AMV on Aug 21, 2020 16:33:23 GMT -5
Suck my unethical penis
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 21, 2020 16:38:54 GMT -5
I dont know why continue bringing Darby after he was taken off the show after DON for almost 2 months (probably to check his background and also him solve his relationship with Priscilla). He's talking about how he was taken off but AEW did not officially address his situation like they didn't Excalibur or Justin Roberts
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Post by markymark on Aug 21, 2020 16:44:07 GMT -5
I dont know why continue bringing Darby after he was taken off the show after DON for almost 2 months (probably to check his background and also him solve his relationship with Priscilla). He's talking about how he was taken off but AEW did not officially address his situation like they didn't Excalibur or Justin Roberts I agree that the whole Excalibur stuff wasnt handled properly because its an incident that happened almost 2 decades ago, and KO also said the N word like Excalibur did yet no one went after KOs head or getting removed off tv. Justin Roberts is probably the most questionable issue, well I hope he got a warning since I feel they give the 3 strikes rule to everyone(Jimmy struck out when he didnt take the rehab seriously and his previous strikes were the Excalibur incident from last year and Speaking out).
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 21, 2020 16:57:44 GMT -5
He's talking about how he was taken off but AEW did not officially address his situation like they didn't Excalibur or Justin Roberts I agree that the whole Excalibur stuff wasnt handled properly because its an incident that happened almost 2 decades ago, and KO also said the N word like Excalibur did yet no one went after KOs head or getting removed off tv. Justin Roberts is probably the most questionable issue, well I hope he got a warning since I feel they give the 3 strikes rule to everyone(Jimmy struck out when he didnt take the rehab seriously and his previous strikes were the Excalibur incident from last year and Speaking out). It's not about going after someone head, it is about addressing the issue. I made a thread specifically saying shit needs to be addressed with KO and Excalibur and in KO case, he has apologized under WWE watch so that's their excuse for not putting it out there AEW addressed Jacobs because they couldn't avoid that. Excalibur has a video and tho it didn't happen on their watch a statement saying he will be off TV to work on himself or whatever would have sufficient. Jericho situation doesn't need a statement but they hid on that. And the Roberts stuff is there but it is said he had evidence to clear his name or something like that but they didn't address the issue of his name in allegations and what they are doing to look into it
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Post by eJm on Aug 21, 2020 17:02:50 GMT -5
Ok, let’s guide this back on topic. There’s a separate topic to AEW’s response to anything relating to accusations.
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Post by lucas_lee on Aug 21, 2020 17:17:03 GMT -5
Its almost as if they're trying to distract us from the fact they're holding a live show during a pandemic. EDIT: Also I have concerns on how AEW is going to enforce this rule. Will he cancel someone who bought a ticket justly at a marked price? How can they know if people bought the tickets together but aren't family, this sounds like cluster****
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Post by markymark on Aug 21, 2020 17:32:05 GMT -5
Its almost as if they're trying to distract us from the fact they're holding a live show during a pandemic. EDIT: Also I have concerns on how AEW is going to enforce this rule. Will he cancel someone who bought a ticket justly at a marked price? How can they know if people bought the tickets together but aren't family, this sounds like cluster**** Janela has a high position in GCW right? So he might give Khan some advice how to pull it off imo.
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Post by Shark on Aug 21, 2020 17:34:54 GMT -5
Something that really does bother me is how often I'll watch Dark or Dynamite and see the wrestlers in the crowd surrounding each other not wearing masks, so really how hard are they enforcing any mask rule among the fans? Just to compare it to something, signs all say no video recording or streaming during events, but I still see fans filming or streaming and security doesn't do anything to stop that.
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Post by lucas_lee on Aug 21, 2020 17:54:10 GMT -5
Its almost as if they're trying to distract us from the fact they're holding a live show during a pandemic. EDIT: Also I have concerns on how AEW is going to enforce this rule. Will he cancel someone who bought a ticket justly at a marked price? How can they know if people bought the tickets together but aren't family, this sounds like cluster**** Janela has a high position in GCW right? So he might give Khan some advice how to pull it off imo. Yeah he is, I've been an early fan of GCW and I still thought the shows were a bad idea. You can't police everyone and I know some of the fans, they hold anti-mask views and I'm sure they were complaining at the show. I'd look at WARRIOR Pros show as the gold standard
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 21, 2020 18:17:43 GMT -5
Something that really does bother me is how often I'll watch Dark or Dynamite and see the wrestlers in the crowd surrounding each other not wearing masks, so really how hard are they enforcing any mask rule among the fans? Just to compare it to something, signs all say no video recording or streaming during events, but I still see fans filming or streaming and security doesn't do anything to stop that. Given their resources and how spaced out the people will be, I have to assume it's much easier to police things in a venue like that. Additionally, so long as people remain distanced and only with the people they arrived with there's no real threat of a spread happening; it's entirely possible that someone could go to the show who's asymptomatic, but so long as distancing guidelines are followed in an outdoor setting there's barely any chance of viral spread beyond the immediate group the person is with, which would be the same situation if they were sitting next to one another in a backyard or something.
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Post by Dub H on Aug 21, 2020 18:24:02 GMT -5
At very least from what I read, with the stadium having a capacity of 6000 at least the families will be VERY separated.
Still would rather have no fans but it seems they are being rather safe
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Aug 21, 2020 18:37:11 GMT -5
Something that really does bother me is how often I'll watch Dark or Dynamite and see the wrestlers in the crowd surrounding each other not wearing masks, so really how hard are they enforcing any mask rule among the fans? Just to compare it to something, signs all say no video recording or streaming during events, but I still see fans filming or streaming and security doesn't do anything to stop that. The wrestlers are tested prior to the show, so they don't need masks. I would presume they aren't testing the ticket buying fans, so the masks are mandatory for them.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Aug 21, 2020 18:39:35 GMT -5
People, yesterday and for months: People will be responsible, we can't stop living our lives. The news, today: People are already ruining everything, because people will already ruin everything. Sorry, we shouldn't have live wrestling shows right now. That's not something we need or deserve, and the fact that immediately, people are doing stupid shit that's going to undermine the measures put in place, is exactly the problem here. If you're on about how we can't have "narratives" about the dark sides of quarantine, you're being vile. Nobody thinks this is paradise. Nobody wants this. Almost everybody who has to live like this hates it and is not doing well because of it. But this doesn't end unless we do it. That's the simple reality. We don't determine when this virus goes away by deciding it's time to return back to normal, and everyone who has suffered and sat there slowly losing their minds has seen all of that effort wasted by these surges in cases. People f***ed things up step by step and did things that made sure this didn't actually go away, and now we have people getting sick again and the entire point of spending months locked down has become a miserable waste. You really need to see people? Go meet up with a few friends at a public park. Have a barbecue with a couple people over. But if you really care about the dark side of quarantine and don't just want to use it as a gotcha to try and force everything 'back to normal' then this is the worst thing you can ask for, because this is how we all go right back on lockdown again after an even bigger resurgence. Anybody trying to use the toll this is taking on people as some kind of cheap argumentative tactic is on some shit, because we're all suffering, and the implication we're not is a huge insult to the sacrifices being made for a greater good. I see stuff like Ticketmaster allowing reselling, and I don't just see a potential spike in cases for people who might not make it if they get it, I see the uptick in numbers that pushes everybody back home for another long, miserable period. Edit: In the time it took me to type that, the above news came out. Good. My points all still stand because people trying to circumvent that in the first place is why we can't just let people "make their own choices". Let me dap you up, my friend. Realest shit I've read all week and verbalizes so many different feelings I've been having.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Aug 21, 2020 18:47:00 GMT -5
People, yesterday and for months: People will be responsible, we can't stop living our lives. The news, today: People are already ruining everything, because people will already ruin everything. Sorry, we shouldn't have live wrestling shows right now. That's not something we need or deserve, and the fact that immediately, people are doing stupid shit that's going to undermine the measures put in place, is exactly the problem here. If you're on about how we can't have "narratives" about the dark sides of quarantine, you're being vile. Nobody thinks this is paradise. Nobody wants this. Almost everybody who has to live like this hates it and is not doing well because of it. But this doesn't end unless we do it. That's the simple reality. We don't determine when this virus goes away by deciding it's time to return back to normal, and everyone who has suffered and sat there slowly losing their minds has seen all of that effort wasted by these surges in cases. People f***ed things up step by step and did things that made sure this didn't actually go away, and now we have people getting sick again and the entire point of spending months locked down has become a miserable waste. You really need to see people? Go meet up with a few friends at a public park. Have a barbecue with a couple people over. But if you really care about the dark side of quarantine and don't just want to use it as a gotcha to try and force everything 'back to normal' then this is the worst thing you can ask for, because this is how we all go right back on lockdown again after an even bigger resurgence. Anybody trying to use the toll this is taking on people as some kind of cheap argumentative tactic is on some shit, because we're all suffering, and the implication we're not is a huge insult to the sacrifices being made for a greater good. I see stuff like Ticketmaster allowing reselling, and I don't just see a potential spike in cases for people who might not make it if they get it, I see the uptick in numbers that pushes everybody back home for another long, miserable period. Edit: In the time it took me to type that, the above news came out. Good. My points all still stand because people trying to circumvent that in the first place is why we can't just let people "make their own choices". Let me dap you up, my friend. Realest shit I've read all week and verbalizes so many different feelings I've been having. In a weird way, wanting to scream because you're slowly going mad in self-enforced isolation becomes a lot easier when you know that everyone else also wants to scream.
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