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Post by Shark on Aug 21, 2020 18:53:08 GMT -5
Something that really does bother me is how often I'll watch Dark or Dynamite and see the wrestlers in the crowd surrounding each other not wearing masks, so really how hard are they enforcing any mask rule among the fans? Just to compare it to something, signs all say no video recording or streaming during events, but I still see fans filming or streaming and security doesn't do anything to stop that. The wrestlers are tested prior to the show, so they don't need masks. I would presume they aren't testing the ticket buying fans, so the masks are mandatory for them. Yeah, but still wearing one won't hurt anything. Just because they tested negative that day doesn't mean they couldn't still be carrying the virus. It's about optics.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 21, 2020 18:55:00 GMT -5
Let me dap you up, my friend. Realest shit I've read all week and verbalizes so many different feelings I've been having. In a weird way, wanting to scream because you're slowly going mad in self-enforced isolation becomes a lot easier when you know that everyone else also wants to scream. I mean, we're all an Edvard Munch painting by this point.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Aug 21, 2020 20:16:48 GMT -5
I applaud them for putting all the precautions possibly in place but, if it all goes left, it could hurt AEW's reputation permanently and irreparably.
Fact is, they haven't lost much if any money during this pandemic. Even if they did, The Khan's are billionaires, they could easily put aside some of their money to keep AEW afloat.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Aug 22, 2020 8:04:54 GMT -5
They sure do respond very quickly to some things and veeeerrrryyyy slowwwwwly on others.
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Post by polarbearpete on Aug 22, 2020 9:21:18 GMT -5
How are they going to enforce that the pods contain only people from the same household? Or is this just the honor system? Even if the fans in each pod all know each other doesn’t mean they should be so close to each other if they don’t live in the same household.
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Post by James Fabiano on Aug 25, 2020 10:10:59 GMT -5
With the troubles with Thunderdome trolls and just that AEW is getting a leg up here, I'm stunned that WWE isn't trying plans to do the same.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 25, 2020 12:30:28 GMT -5
With the troubles with Thunderdome trolls and just that AEW is getting a leg up here, I'm stunned that WWE isn't trying plans to do the same. Dailey Place is open air and fairly big as well as owned by the Khans so its a bit easier for them to do it. The PC is too small for that, and they would have to get Full Sail to agree to an open air one with people on site
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 25, 2020 14:14:32 GMT -5
With the troubles with Thunderdome trolls and just that AEW is getting a leg up here, I'm stunned that WWE isn't trying plans to do the same. Dailey Place is open air and fairly big as well as owned by the Khans so its a bit easier for them to do it. The PC is too small for that, and they would have to get Full Sail to agree to an open air one with people on site I'm shocked Vince hasn't found anywhere in Florida to run a concievable open air show to try and run limited fans. No that I don't think th Thunderdome isn't a better arena (If he fan aspect has been very shaky so far), I'm just shocked he hasn't been trying harder to do it.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Aug 25, 2020 19:49:35 GMT -5
I applaud them for putting all the precautions possibly in place but, if it all goes left, it could hurt AEW's reputation permanently and irreparably. Fact is, they haven't lost much if any money during this pandemic. Even if they did, The Khan's are billionaires, they could easily put aside some of their money to keep AEW afloat. You don't become or stay or a billionaire by throwing good money after bad.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Aug 25, 2020 21:06:12 GMT -5
Ok, any talk of "it's all about personal responsibility" is absolute misleading horseshit, and I'd appreciate anyone thinking of advocating for it to stop and think before posting. Say for a moment that the virus was just a case of individuals catching it and not really spreading it too easily; even in that case it'd still be reckless to say "I'm aware of the risks, I've made my choice!" because one of the biggest freaking problems in all of this is emergency rooms getting overwhelmed by COVID cases, leading to more people getting sick or dying because they can't get treatment. But this IS a highly contagious virus, so no, it's not just about you, it's about you getting yourself exposed, potentially sick or asymptomatic, and then spreading it to a shitload of other people. And no, "I want to do things that are fun" in no way equates with "I need to do things like have food to eat and clothes to wear". However: I call 100% CAP on that. You feel safer, sweating in a ring, in your underwear with minimal cover and 500 people in the stands plus however many camera and crew people as opposed to going to get coffee which they do not let many people in the store and you are required to wear a mask in order to get into the store Technically, if everyone on staff is getting regularly tested? Yes, there's a case he might be safer. Stores are close-contact, can lead to prolonged contact in some situations, and there's no guarantee of the people around you having been tested or taking any safety precautions. If the fans are hundreds of feet away, if the AEW wrestlers and staff are all tested regularly, etc., then his risk of infection working an outdoor venue is incredibly small. Granted, that's only the wrestlers, the issue here concerns the fans. I am 100% on board with society erring on the side of caution in all of this. I live in a region that got rocked by this thing in the early days, and it took a shitload of time and effort for us to get things under control; even then, we're often on the brink of things going wrong, like the recent uptick of cases in New Jersey shows. I'm a teacher, too, and I'm dreading what the reopening of classrooms is going to look like without a readily available vaccine out there yet. At the same time, there is sound science out there concerning limited ways that people, companies, businesses, events, etc. can operate in a way closer to normal, and ignoring it does us no favors, either. Assuming AEW is committed to following through on what they're calling for here, they can essentially keep the risk of spread within the venue to zero: open air venue, masks required, limited and distanced seat pods with no cross pollination between people in different groups, etc., is about as safe as you can get; you can have an infected person in such a setting and should not have any spread whatsoever. Don't mistake me: if I was in charge, I wouldn't choose to do this. The argument "wrestling isn't worth even a remote chance on this" is a fine one in my book, fears of Florida being such a hotbed are more than justified (and Jacksonville isn't far from Georgia, where per capita infection is even worse), and I also appreciate concerns that certain kinds of enforcement at the venue could prove tough to fully implement. Ultimately, though, if they've consulted with health professionals and if they do even the bare minimum (e.g. stagger times fans can enter the venue, have security available to make sure people stay in their pods, keep a limit on number of people allowed in a bathroom at the same time, etc.) then they'll have successfully followed the science on the matter and kept risks to such a remote minimum that it'd take extraordinary circumstances for something to go wrong. Given that, and given that this is only being attempted after seeing if such plans can work in similar settings, it does not qualify as "reckless" or something that would give anyone at CDC a conniption. Again, question if it's even worth the chance and I'm with you, but there's a level of thinking out there that goes so far in the "everything's screwed" direction that it risks ignoring science, too, albeit in a less dangerous way than how the COVID-iots out there ignore safety protocols. I agree with everything your saying and honestly I’d rather be in a 2 month lockdown for the whole country to get rid of this completely than a year of half assed lockdowns. But with the powers that be doing a shit job, you can’t blame people for being sick of this shit. I think wrestling shows with fans are unnecessary right now, but shit like going to the gym, I can’t stop doing that for a year
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Post by 3cheers4ramirez on Aug 26, 2020 5:38:02 GMT -5
I applaud them for putting all the precautions possibly in place but, if it all goes left, it could hurt AEW's reputation permanently and irreparably.Fact is, they haven't lost much if any money during this pandemic. Even if they did, The Khan's are billionaires, they could easily put aside some of their money to keep AEW afloat. I can't really see what circumstances would lead to that happening. People are pretty numb to deaths and cases at this point. Even the Cardinals going to a casino and catching it didn't cause any prolonged outrage. And by the time any cases can be linked back to AEW, there will be multiple football stadiums in the same state hosting 15k fans.
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Post by markymark on Aug 28, 2020 9:33:50 GMT -5
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Post by Dub H on Aug 28, 2020 9:35:17 GMT -5
Honestly short of not having any fans at all it seems they did everything safe.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 28, 2020 9:45:11 GMT -5
They also locked the seats not reserved for pods:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 10:02:37 GMT -5
They showed a guy right onscreen who wasn't covering his nose.
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 28, 2020 10:14:27 GMT -5
They showed a guy right onscreen who wasn't covering his nose. Which is dumb on that guy’s part, but if he stuck with his pod and was only like that in the open air it’s an incredibly minute issue.
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Post by markymark on Aug 28, 2020 11:02:44 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 3:07:26 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 4:04:59 GMT -5
“We can’t shoot the crowd if you’re not wearing masks.”
Bro.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 31, 2020 6:04:32 GMT -5
Supposedly TNT executives asked Tony to say all of that
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