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Post by Limity (BLM) on Sept 19, 2022 19:10:31 GMT -5
Somehow I'm still most confused that a gender nonconforming Hollywood actor is living in rural Vermont. like, huh? That's the neighbourhood you chose? Vermont itself is rather progressive, and I think that extends to the rural areas where as long as Miller is on his property and not bothering the neighbors, it's fine. What I've never gotten is Kanye West living for a time in Wyoming, the most racist state I've ever been to.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Sept 19, 2022 19:18:27 GMT -5
Somehow I'm still most confused that a gender nonconforming Hollywood actor is living in rural Vermont. like, huh? That's the neighbourhood you chose? Vermont itself is rather progressive, and I think that extends to the rural areas where as long as Miller is on his property and not bothering the neighbors, it's fine. What I've never gotten is Kanye West living for a time in Wyoming, the most racist state I've ever been to. Because Kanye sucked up to a certain person and did a lot of stupid shit to benefit that person and his group, so that person's leeches love him.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Sept 19, 2022 20:07:22 GMT -5
Vermont itself is rather progressive, and I think that extends to the rural areas where as long as Miller is on his property and not bothering the neighbors, it's fine. What I've never gotten is Kanye West living for a time in Wyoming, the most racist state I've ever been to. Because Kanye sucked up to a certain person and did a lot of stupid shit to benefit that person and his group, so that person's leeches love him. Welp, nevermind. Close the book on that mystery.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Sept 19, 2022 22:51:55 GMT -5
Count me in too, no way am I missing Keaton returning as Batman. Especially now we've lost Keaton's Batman in Batgirl. This is the monkey's paw wish of seeing Keaton back in the role. Yeah, he's Batman again, but under some of the worst circumstances. I wouldn't count on Keaton being very heavily featured in Flash, tbh. They've already unpersoned Batgirl, and Keaton's Aquaman cameo has reportedly been replaced with an Affleck cameo. It's clear that the new regime doesn't have it for Batman '89. I'm just saying, going to see Flash for Michael Keaton might just be setting yourself up for disappointment.
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Post by Kalmia on Sept 20, 2022 6:58:09 GMT -5
Especially now we've lost Keaton's Batman in Batgirl. This is the monkey's paw wish of seeing Keaton back in the role. Yeah, he's Batman again, but under some of the worst circumstances. I wouldn't count on Keaton being very heavily featured in Flash, tbh. They've already unpersoned Batgirl, and Keaton's Aquaman cameo has reportedly been replaced with an Affleck cameo. It's clear that the new regime doesn't have it for Batman '89. I'm just saying, going to see Flash for Michael Keaton might just be setting yourself up for disappointment. Oh, I was never going to buy a cinema ticket for it. But I would have watched it on streaming for him.
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Post by Renslayer on Oct 13, 2022 17:38:06 GMT -5
I hope more A list stars call them out
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Post by The Ichi on Oct 13, 2022 17:56:09 GMT -5
I really hope everyone just boycots this movie if it goes through.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Oct 13, 2022 20:01:43 GMT -5
I hope more A list stars call them out 1) Many, many more people than Ezra Miller worked on this movie. 2) WB's actions are about protecting their investment, not because they just desperately want to save Miller from the consequences of their actions.
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Post by xCompackx on Oct 13, 2022 20:47:46 GMT -5
I hope more A list stars call them out 1) Many, many more people than Ezra Miller worked on this movie. 2) WB's actions are about protecting their investment, not because they just desperately want to save Miller from the consequences of their actions. I don't think anyone's saying axing The Flash over Ezra Miller's actions would be an easy choice for WB, but a company can't preach accountability when money's not on the line. Either you hold people accountable for their actions or you don't. And those many people who worked on the movie? That's part of the responsibility of being the lead actor in a movie. Also, Batgirl was in post-production when it was canned so kinda hard to believe WB's afraid of losing revenue when they just cancel a movie that was almost done.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Oct 13, 2022 20:56:41 GMT -5
1) Many, many more people than Ezra Miller worked on this movie. 2) WB's actions are about protecting their investment, not because they just desperately want to save Miller from the consequences of their actions. I don't think anyone's saying axing The Flash over Ezra Miller's actions would be an easy choice for WB, but a company can't preach accountability when money's not on the line. Either you hold people accountable for their actions or you don't. And those many people who worked on the movie? That's part of the responsibility of being the lead actor in a movie. Also, Batgirl was in post-production when it was canned so kinda hard to believe WB's afraid of losing revenue when they just cancel a movie that was almost done. Batgirl was for streaming so no immediate verifiable profit. And it still needed more money. A tax write off means you at least break even. Flash is hopefully a billion dollar theatrical release that may help them get out of the red. So totally different situations. Plus due to contracts they most likely cannot write off Flash. Miller, Keaton, and the director most likely get paid from the profits. If the movie is dumped they have to be paid off or they will sue, like Scarlet over Black Widow. Edit. Just to be clear I am not in favor of Miller. He needs to go. He is building up to some real bad news. But with the investment made WB will put that movie out.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Oct 13, 2022 21:35:45 GMT -5
I hope more A list stars call them out In the absence of any real consequences, because money, I guess we'll have to settle for Ezra Miller being an albatross around Zaslav's neck from now until the movie drops.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Oct 13, 2022 21:58:58 GMT -5
Batgirl was for streaming so no immediate verifiable profit. And it still needed more money. A tax write off means you at least break even. Though not quite accurate in Batgirl's case. It's reported that WBD got $20 million for writing off Batgirl, having spent $70 million of the $90 million budgeted for it.
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Post by thechase on Oct 17, 2022 9:18:12 GMT -5
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Post by Feyrhausen on Oct 17, 2022 9:29:32 GMT -5
Batgirl was for streaming so no immediate verifiable profit. And it still needed more money. A tax write off means you at least break even. Though not quite accurate in Batgirl's case. It's reported that WBD got $20 million for writing off Batgirl, having spent $70 million of the $90 million budgeted for it. Had.not heard that. Everything I have read made it sound like they were getting the money already spent back. So if they only clear 20 mil it still makes some sense. It was for Max so it does not bring you any direct profit. And if they dont think the film will bring enough Max sign ups to justify finishing it then you write it off and take what you can get. And this is not the first time a studio head cancels or trashes a project that they didnt originate. But still might be a very bad decision. Pissing off everyone who worked on that film. Not a good thing in a creative industry. Discover looks at people as assets. Easily replaceable. Not so much here. If they piss of Keaton and he declines to return who is your next Batman, Kilmer?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Oct 17, 2022 9:51:12 GMT -5
But still might be a very bad decision. Pissing off everyone who worked on that film. Not a good thing in a creative industry. Discover looks at people as assets. Easily replaceable. Not so much here. If they piss of Keaton and he declines to return who is your next Batman, Kilmer? Had it been done in total isolation, they might have gotten away without too much heat, but given the massive slash and burn Discovery have undertaken to just about everything the damage has been done. Plus it had the seconsary effect of torching a movie with Brendan Fraser in at the height of the public's sympathy and well-wishing for him. That's like kicking an abused puppy.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Oct 17, 2022 10:01:44 GMT -5
But still might be a very bad decision. Pissing off everyone who worked on that film. Not a good thing in a creative industry. Discover looks at people as assets. Easily replaceable. Not so much here. If they piss of Keaton and he declines to return who is your next Batman, Kilmer? Had it been done in total isolation, they might have gotten away without too much heat, but given the massive slash and burn Discovery have undertaken to just about everything the damage has been done. Plus it had the seconsary effect of torching a movie with Brendan Fraser in at the height of the public's sympathy and well-wishing for him. That's like kicking an abused puppy. Absolutely. It would be just another case of a new studio head trashing the old projects if they were not also firing every woman and POC they have.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Oct 17, 2022 10:31:13 GMT -5
Especially now we've lost Keaton's Batman in Batgirl. This is the monkey's paw wish of seeing Keaton back in the role. Yeah, he's Batman again, but under some of the worst circumstances. I wouldn't count on Keaton being very heavily featured in Flash, tbh. They've already unpersoned Batgirl, and Keaton's Aquaman cameo has reportedly been replaced with an Affleck cameo. It's clear that the new regime doesn't have it for Batman '89. I'm just saying, going to see Flash for Michael Keaton might just be setting yourself up for disappointment. Keaton’s Aquaman cameo was replaced because of the assf***ery surrounding this movie though. Can’t have Keaton appear in Aquaman when he was supposed to be in Flash first and Flash keeps getting pushed back.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Oct 17, 2022 10:58:12 GMT -5
lol 26 years in prison? No big deal! $2000 fine? Oh, no! Woe is me!
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Post by chrom on Oct 17, 2022 11:04:09 GMT -5
How is it only 2000 dollars after all he's done?
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Post by lionheart21 on Oct 17, 2022 15:05:28 GMT -5
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