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Post by Cyno on May 11, 2020 19:08:06 GMT -5
It's still incredible how right the Arrowverse got everything in terms of the slow but certain buildup to a larger universe and then a larger multiverse. With it all culminating in Crisis On Infinite Earths. It was years' worth of introducing these characters and having them interact in small doses, like Barry Allen meeting Oliver for the first time on Arrow, or Barry accidentally breaching his way into Supergirl's Earth. You got to see these characters' relationships and friendships grow instead of just dumping everyone together without any explanation. Regardless of the quality of each show on its own merits, they built things up right in a way that makes these epic crossover events feel earned.
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Post by kingoftheindies on May 11, 2020 21:19:44 GMT -5
The irony I see is that Ayer and maybe DC wanted the Suicide Squad to be their version of Guardians of the Galaxy and in order to make that happen they scooped up James Gunn to reimagine the team.
It's a shame too as the Suicide Squad to me has for awhile had consistently interesting stories you can base the movie around... and that even includes adding the Joker if you must.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 11, 2020 21:39:31 GMT -5
Well, now the calls for the Ayer Cut to be on HBO Max are growing too.
These dudes are gonna be so disappointed.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 11, 2020 21:48:53 GMT -5
Well, now the calls for the Ayer Cut to be on HBO Max are growing too. These dudes are gonna be so disappointed. I mean the Ayer's cut is... at least slightly more likely to both exist and maybe even eventually come out... since Suicide Squad actually made money and well Ayer was fully involved in the project until the end. But it's still going to be full of stupid issues like you said Enchantress being on the team only to be the evil one is an issue of script not editing... and if what the general rumor is that only the ending was really changed.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 11, 2020 21:51:21 GMT -5
Right there actually would be a cut there, but still don't see it happening.
Though it would be hilarious if that one is and that's it. Shit they should promote it: "We're giving the Cut fans have asked for.."
Then it's this.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 11, 2020 21:56:39 GMT -5
Right there actually would be a cut there, but still don't see it happening. Though it would be hilarious if that one is and that's it. Shit they should promote it: "We're giving the Cut fans have asked for.." Then it's this. I mean the sequel has basically been called a Sequel and reboot so many times I'm not even sure if it is either anymore >_> the fact that it's simply titled THE Suicide Squad makes me thing it's closer to the reboot idea than a sequel... so I doubt releasing any extra Suicide Squad material is ever going to happen as they are likely ignoring that most of that filmed happened. speaking of I can't believe this movie won an oscar for hair and makeup... especially since Killer Croc looked f***ing awful.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 11, 2020 21:58:25 GMT -5
I feel like it's kind of like the small references in Birds of Prey, Harley&friends did some stuff that we're not really going to talk about again.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on May 11, 2020 22:19:22 GMT -5
David Ayer's a bitch for inciting this. f*** you dude, the last thing we needed was more "Release the ____ Cut" bullshit.
If I was WB, I'd blacklist him and publicly explain why he would never work for me again.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 11, 2020 22:59:33 GMT -5
David Ayer's a bitch for inciting this. f*** you dude, the last thing we needed was more "Release the ____ Cut" bullshit. If I was WB, I'd blacklist him and publicly explain why he would never work for me again. I doubt they will and I doubt they care This will get a ton less traction then Snyder
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Post by Cyno on May 11, 2020 23:08:09 GMT -5
Ayer doesn't have the cult following Snyder does so there's that at least.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 23:22:08 GMT -5
I'm really just amazed anyone would be dying to see the unfiltered artistic vision of the guy who made the clusterf*** that is Bright.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 12, 2020 5:33:02 GMT -5
David Ayer's a bitch for inciting this. f*** you dude, the last thing we needed was more "Release the ____ Cut" bullshit. If I was WB, I'd blacklist him and publicly explain why he would never work for me again. I doubt they will and I doubt they care This will get a ton less traction then Snyder Yeah, both hashtags started up around the same time, but the Snyder Cut is the one that really took off while the Ayer Cut tends to just guy added to Snyder Cut tweets almost as an afterthought. Demand is pretty low.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 12, 2020 12:52:26 GMT -5
I doubt they will and I doubt they care This will get a ton less traction then Snyder Yeah, both hashtags started up around the same time, but the Snyder Cut is the one that really took off while the Ayer Cut tends to just guy added to Snyder Cut tweets almost as an afterthought. Demand is pretty low. Ayer also generally doesn't try to rile these people up from what I have seen... and has for the most part moved on to making other movies. Zack on the other hand...
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Post by Bub (BLM) on May 12, 2020 13:03:19 GMT -5
If I had to establish a DC Universe and had to use Superman for it (who damn sure wouldn't be my first choice to build the universe around - he works best as an already established presence in the world), I'd probably go with a Luthor / Metallo team-up for the first movie with Metallo as the big danger of it. Few benefits to that - he's a very direct threat to Superman who can hang with him without actually having to go too heavy on the spectacle early on, you establish both Luthor's threat level and the Kryptonite weakness right off the bat, and it keeps the focus of the store more grounded on earth so that right off the bat so that you have proper time to set everything up instead of diving heavily into all the space stuff right off the bat and you don't need to bring up Krypton that much. ... This, "Keep the focus on Earth to start with, work your way up," viewpoint is also why I'd probably be bare minimum ten movies in before trying to do anything whatsoever with Green Lantern given the sheer amount of mythology you need to establish with them. Basically, Superman: TAS. I've been saying for years that it should be the blueprint for live-action Superman. It was a fun, smart action show that built towards the bigger moments patiently. You can easily take something like that as inspiration and get something on par with Aquaman.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 12, 2020 13:37:58 GMT -5
If I had to establish a DC Universe and had to use Superman for it (who damn sure wouldn't be my first choice to build the universe around - he works best as an already established presence in the world), I'd probably go with a Luthor / Metallo team-up for the first movie with Metallo as the big danger of it. Few benefits to that - he's a very direct threat to Superman who can hang with him without actually having to go too heavy on the spectacle early on, you establish both Luthor's threat level and the Kryptonite weakness right off the bat, and it keeps the focus of the store more grounded on earth so that right off the bat so that you have proper time to set everything up instead of diving heavily into all the space stuff right off the bat and you don't need to bring up Krypton that much. ... This, "Keep the focus on Earth to start with, work your way up," viewpoint is also why I'd probably be bare minimum ten movies in before trying to do anything whatsoever with Green Lantern given the sheer amount of mythology you need to establish with them. Basically, Superman: TAS. I've been saying for years that it should be the blueprint for live-action Superman. It was a fun, smart action show that built towards the bigger moments patiently. You can easily take something like that as inspiration and get something on par with Aquaman. it's weird we've never gotten a comics accurate Lex... despite him being used constantly... I mean the original Superman movie actually predates business man Lex... but even then that version isn't actually accurate as Lex was a pretty generic Mad Scientist in the comics.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on May 12, 2020 14:56:04 GMT -5
Basically, Superman: TAS. I've been saying for years that it should be the blueprint for live-action Superman. It was a fun, smart action show that built towards the bigger moments patiently. You can easily take something like that as inspiration and get something on par with Aquaman. it's weird we've never gotten a comics accurate Lex... despite him being used constantly... I mean the original Superman movie actually predates business man Lex... but even then that version isn't actually accurate as Lex was a pretty generic Mad Scientist. It's even more mad when you consider that small-screen adaptations tend to get him much better. John Shea, Michael Rosenbaum, and now Jon Cryer have all been fantastic, nuanced versions of businessman Lex. The movies are hung up on Gene Hackman.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 19, 2020 13:07:37 GMT -5
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on May 19, 2020 18:46:46 GMT -5
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 30, 2020 13:52:57 GMT -5
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on May 30, 2020 20:43:16 GMT -5
This dude needs to get f***ing over it.
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