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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Jun 16, 2020 3:32:13 GMT -5
I think the reason why that had much less of an impact was because LU never had a separate women's division so the titles were never gendered. Ivelisse had a title shot at the start of season 2 and she was also part of the first trios champions. Oh it had a huge impact when the result from the taping leaked out and everyone was freaking the f*** out and every single opinion from...how awesome a televised promotion put their world title on a woman to LU f***ed up they put it on sexy star etc etc But seeing as it only lasted a week and couple it with weeks if not months later the AAA shit with Rosemary happened and it tends to get forgotten unless people are reminded of it. If Angelico was not made out of sugar glass he would have won that title instead of sexy star. That was supposed to be Angelico winning the LU title? Was that ever confirmed because that's the first I heard of it. I can't remember Angelico ever getting a serious singles push in LU. |
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Jun 16, 2020 3:40:16 GMT -5
Maybe WWE sent out feelers about signing her to feud with Charlotte so she's sort of starting to turn on D'Amore and Callis. Distancing herself more than just physically. It cant be hard to shoot a promo on your phone and send it in. If this is true, there has to be some issue. Seeing how they have Ricochet under contract, that’s not happening anytime soon I seriously doubt if WWE really wants Tessa that they will pass on signing her because of Ricochet. I'd personally have Ricochet on my roster any day over Tessa, but let's not pretend Ricochet is in anyway a priority to WWE. Tessa would be far higher on the card in WWE than Ricochet ever will. |
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Jun 16, 2020 3:53:24 GMT -5
Am I the only one that thinks this could be another Kross / Impact situation? Maybe if Tessa thinks there's some interest in her from WWE or elsewhere she might think if she just refuses to honor her contract and stops showing up to work like Kross did Impact will eventually give up and cut her loose like they did with Kross.
On a personal note if Impact does cut her loose I'll be happy. She's the only Impact performer that has go away heat with me. Even before I knew all these things about her personal life she's always rubbed me the wrong way as a talent.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 16, 2020 4:05:17 GMT -5
Honestly, I do think WWE would want Tessa, regardless of her issues. If nothing else, Charlotte versus Tessa is an easy, easy sell.
I don't know if it's to her benefit to torpedo her relationship with Impact, though. She is obviously a much bigger fish there than she would be in WWE. I'm sure they'd give Daga a look, too, though he'd likely get lost in the shuffle. Much better wrestlers than him have.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jun 16, 2020 4:58:31 GMT -5
Can I get some details here? They brought back the TNA title even though the company is named Impact now, and its world title should be a direct lineage from the original TNA title? Moose is doing the "REEEAALLL World Champion" gimmick from Ric Flair 1991, he hasn't gotten a title shot so is protesting by proclaiming himself as the TNA World Champion. Didn't they have a mini feud between some old TNA era people and the current roster because of a throwback PPV or something? I dunno the only things I've seen from them lately were that Steiner Math promo and the Suicide and Manik team. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jun 16, 2020 5:59:19 GMT -5
Moose is doing the "REEEAALLL World Champion" gimmick from Ric Flair 1991, he hasn't gotten a title shot so is protesting by proclaiming himself as the TNA World Champion. Didn't they have a mini feud between some old TNA era people and the current roster because of a throwback PPV or something? I dunno the only things I've seen from them lately were that Steiner Math promo and the Suicide and Manik team. Pretty much, but the retro PPV never happened, as it was supposed to take place Wrestlemania weekend in Tampa. Moose did beat some old undercard TNA guys like Chase Stevens and Hernandez in the lead up to the retro TNA show, but presumably would have had a more climatic lead up into him coming out with the TNA title. But then again, the angle actually made more sense because he happened to do the angle when the Impact world title couldn't be defended. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2020 10:48:11 GMT -5
Oh it had a huge impact when the result from the taping leaked out and everyone was freaking the f*** out and every single opinion from...how awesome a televised promotion put their world title on a woman to LU f***ed up they put it on sexy star etc etc But seeing as it only lasted a week and couple it with weeks if not months later the AAA shit with Rosemary happened and it tends to get forgotten unless people are reminded of it. If Angelico was not made out of sugar glass he would have won that title instead of sexy star. That was supposed to be Angelico winning the LU title? Was that ever confirmed because that's the first I heard of it. I can't remember Angelico ever getting a serious singles push in LU. The plan was always for it to end the way sexy stars title run ended with him being robbed of the title it was just suppose to be Angelico....because he was then suppose to face Johnny at Ultima Lucha and win the title off of him there because remember they had been building Johnny and Angelico going back to season 2. But when they were taping they tape things very out of order so like Taya in season 3 if you go back and watch you will wonder where is Taya with the rest of worldwide underground but then she will show up but then Jack would be missing etc because Tayas sister had passed away and Jack broke his Jaw and alot of things had to play out differently. And all of this is confirmed from as LU fans call them the jefes/bosses I definetly reccomend if you want and are willing to listen to all their interviews on MMMshow alot of great insightful info on things they wanted to do could not do , why things played out like they did etc. |
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Post by markymark on Jun 16, 2020 11:41:05 GMT -5
This is going to be loltna if Tessa doesnt show up at Slammiversary.
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Post by Shark on Jun 16, 2020 23:55:10 GMT -5
Seeing how they have Ricochet under contract, that’s not happening anytime soon I seriously doubt if WWE really wants Tessa that they will pass on signing her because of Ricochet. I'd personally have Ricochet on my roster any day over Tessa, but let's not pretend Ricochet is in anyway a priority to WWE. Tessa would be far higher on the card in WWE than Ricochet ever will. I think it wouldn't be as big an issue as we think it could be. Tessa's engaged now so it might not be a problem. Depending on what's happening if she goes there, it's not like WWE can't keep them on separate shows to make sure nothing happens. But Drew and Taryn had an incredibly rocky marriage, but they were in Impact at the same time after they divorced and didn't have any issues. Angle, Jarrett, and Karen worked together eventually and found a middle ground. |
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Post by lionheart21 on Jun 17, 2020 0:05:30 GMT -5
I seriously doubt if WWE really wants Tessa that they will pass on signing her because of Ricochet. I'd personally have Ricochet on my roster any day over Tessa, but let's not pretend Ricochet is in anyway a priority to WWE. Tessa would be far higher on the card in WWE than Ricochet ever will. I think it wouldn't be as big an issue as we think it could be. Tessa's engaged now so it might not be a problem. Depending on what's happening if she goes there, it's not like WWE can't keep them on separate shows to make sure nothing happens. But Drew and Taryn had an incredibly rocky marriage, but they were in Impact at the same time after they divorced and didn't have any issues. Angle, Jarrett, and Karen worked together eventually and found a middle ground. That's a good point actually. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 17, 2020 0:06:08 GMT -5
I seriously doubt if WWE really wants Tessa that they will pass on signing her because of Ricochet. I'd personally have Ricochet on my roster any day over Tessa, but let's not pretend Ricochet is in anyway a priority to WWE. Tessa would be far higher on the card in WWE than Ricochet ever will. I think it wouldn't be as big an issue as we think it could be. Tessa's engaged now so it might not be a problem. Depending on what's happening if she goes there, it's not like WWE can't keep them on separate shows to make sure nothing happens. But Drew and Taryn had an incredibly rocky marriage, but they were in Impact at the same time after they divorced and didn't have any issues. Angle, Jarrett, and Karen worked together eventually and found a middle ground. Pretty sure Ricochet's also engaged, unless I am remembering wrong, so yeah, one would hope it wouldn't be an issue. A bigger problem would be the N-bomb thing, but we're in a post-"Let's do virtually nothing about Lars Anderson" world, and it's not as provable as with Havok, so even that is probably something WWE wouldn't especially care about. |
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Post by Shark on Jun 17, 2020 0:18:35 GMT -5
I think it wouldn't be as big an issue as we think it could be. Tessa's engaged now so it might not be a problem. Depending on what's happening if she goes there, it's not like WWE can't keep them on separate shows to make sure nothing happens. But Drew and Taryn had an incredibly rocky marriage, but they were in Impact at the same time after they divorced and didn't have any issues. Angle, Jarrett, and Karen worked together eventually and found a middle ground. Pretty sure Ricochet's also engaged, unless I am remembering wrong, so yeah, one would hope it wouldn't be an issue. A bigger problem would be the N-bomb thing, but we're in a post-"Let's do virtually nothing about Lars Anderson" world, and it's not as provable as with Havok, so even that is probably something WWE wouldn't especially care about. It was Lars Sullivan and it's not like he's actually done anything in WWE. And they did also just yank Ryker and the Forgotten Sons off TV over comments Ryker made. Something also to consider is WWE is run by Vince, Hunter, and Stephanie and Hunter especially talking to Tessa beforehand and making it clear she'd be on a short leash. At least that's what they should do. Basically, do what the Lakers did with Dwight Howard this season. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 17, 2020 0:21:56 GMT -5
Pretty sure Ricochet's also engaged, unless I am remembering wrong, so yeah, one would hope it wouldn't be an issue. A bigger problem would be the N-bomb thing, but we're in a post-"Let's do virtually nothing about Lars Anderson" world, and it's not as provable as with Havok, so even that is probably something WWE wouldn't especially care about. It was Lars Sullivan and it's not like he's actually done anything in WWE. And they did also just yank Ryker and the Forgotten Sons off TV over comments Ryker made. Something also to consider is WWE is run by Vince, Hunter, and Stephanie and Hunter especially talking to Tessa beforehand and making it clear she'd be on a short leash. At least that's what they should do. Basically, do what the Lakers did with Dwight Howard this season. Sullivan, yeah, I always f*** up his name for some reason. Probably total indifference to him as a performer, that'd do it. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 17, 2020 9:48:33 GMT -5
Seeing how they have Ricochet under contract, that’s not happening anytime soon I seriously doubt if WWE really wants Tessa that they will pass on signing her because of Ricochet. I'd personally have Ricochet on my roster any day over Tessa, but let's not pretend Ricochet is in anyway a priority to WWE. Tessa would be far higher on the card in WWE than Ricochet ever will. I think if WWE really wanted Tessa they'd have signed her already. Theres plenty of other women on their roster already who tick the same boxes without being a colossal tool. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2020 14:45:42 GMT -5
Honestly, I do think WWE would want Tessa, regardless of her issues. If nothing else, Charlotte versus Tessa is an easy, easy sell. I don't know if it's to her benefit to torpedo her relationship with Impact, though. She is obviously a much bigger fish there than she would be in WWE. I'm sure they'd give Daga a look, too, though he'd likely get lost in the shuffle. Much better wrestlers than him have. To the WWE Flair and Arn are the only horsemen that existed. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 17, 2020 14:59:29 GMT -5
Honestly, I do think WWE would want Tessa, regardless of her issues. If nothing else, Charlotte versus Tessa is an easy, easy sell. I don't know if it's to her benefit to torpedo her relationship with Impact, though. She is obviously a much bigger fish there than she would be in WWE. I'm sure they'd give Daga a look, too, though he'd likely get lost in the shuffle. Much better wrestlers than him have. To the WWE Flair and Arn are the only horsemen that existed. Until they can milk it for a storyline, anyway. Half surprised they've never brought in Barry Windham to get murked by his nephew or something, but I guess he's also kind of a trainwreck, supposedly, so probably not worth the risk. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jun 17, 2020 15:04:10 GMT -5
To the WWE Flair and Arn are the only horsemen that existed. Until they can milk it for a storyline, anyway. Half surprised they've never brought in Barry Windham to get murked by his nephew or something, but I guess he's also kind of a trainwreck, supposedly, so probably not worth the risk. I mean they mention Tully... hell him and Windham were the other two that were inducted into the hall of fame... and were the main focus on the Four Horsemen DVD. |
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Jun 18, 2020 4:14:32 GMT -5
To the WWE Flair and Arn are the only horsemen that existed. Until they can milk it for a storyline, anyway. Half surprised they've never brought in Barry Windham to get murked by his nephew or something, but I guess he's also kind of a trainwreck, supposedly, so probably not worth the risk. Going back to that other thread about certain wrestlers that have never been linked to their real life pasts. Has Bray's real life family ever been mentioned on WWE TV? And I have never heard of Barry Windham being a train wreck, unless you mean his health currently which I have heard isn't good. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 18, 2020 14:49:58 GMT -5
Until they can milk it for a storyline, anyway. Half surprised they've never brought in Barry Windham to get murked by his nephew or something, but I guess he's also kind of a trainwreck, supposedly, so probably not worth the risk. Going back to that other thread about certain wrestlers that have never been linked to their real life pasts. Has Bray's real life family ever been mentioned on WWE TV? And I have never heard of Barry Windham being a train wreck, unless you mean his health currently which I have heard isn't good. I don't have any details, but Dustin Rhodes was asked if he kept up with Barry during the AEW Unrestricted interview he did. He mentioned Barry was "lost to them", something like that. |
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Jun 18, 2020 19:11:42 GMT -5
Going back to that other thread about certain wrestlers that have never been linked to their real life pasts. Has Bray's real life family ever been mentioned on WWE TV? And I have never heard of Barry Windham being a train wreck, unless you mean his health currently which I have heard isn't good. I don't have any details, but Dustin Rhodes was asked if he kept up with Barry during the AEW Unrestricted interview he did. He mentioned Barry was "lost to them", something like that. Wow. That's sad to hear. |
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