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Post by Welfare Willis on Jun 15, 2020 1:44:27 GMT -5
I said it before and I'll keep saying it because this keeps happening Vince can't keep getting away with this bullshit. Something has GOT TO GIVE. Given our current times I no longer have faith it will.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Jun 15, 2020 1:55:09 GMT -5
Wow. Well there it is. How can Vince have all this the energy to do this.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 15, 2020 2:39:31 GMT -5
No f***ing way any wrestler in their right mind does that trip
Everyone getting their own private plane and getting out of dodge as soon as their match is over if that is the case
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 15, 2020 2:51:40 GMT -5
No f***ing way any wrestler in their right mind does that trip Everyone getting their own private plane and getting out of dodge as soon as their match is over if that is the case Randy Orton: “Maybe I SHOULD buy that plane”
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jun 15, 2020 2:56:41 GMT -5
Holy shit. 100 million subscribers was WWE's projection? What's the population of Saudi Arabia? *checks* 33.4 million according to Wikipedia. Either the number was grossly exaggerated by _somebody_ or else WWE clearly thought its bargaining position with Saudi Arabia would be stronger than it turned out to be. It makes me wonder if there were other considerations at play during the negotiations that didn't pan out as expected or desired. It seems to me that all the maelstrom that was the negotiations with Fox (which might have done damage to the Saudi deal), the startup of the XFL (and the questions about how that was being paid for), and the brouhaha over what happened in Saudi Arabia was a collective shitnado born not simply out of greed, but possibly out of political gamesmanship. Vince seems to have deeply isolated himself from even members of his own family in his day-to-day management of the company; Steph and Shane are nowhere to be seen; Trips is ensconced entirely with NXT. There's a reason for that, I think. Vince is still pulling the shady business shit like it's the 80s again. Thing is, these days nothing stays secret - or as secret - with social media involved, as well more eyes on the look out for companies pulling this. The fact that he's pulling the same shit with the Saudis that would have worked on TV stations back in the day is both laughable, and appalling, when he's happy to use his roster as collateral. Vince is scum, plain and simple.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 15, 2020 3:23:05 GMT -5
Ok so help me out with another thing. Is it true everyone that was involved with complaining publicly about this event was let go in this last mass release? Anyone got a list handy? Watching back the ones I remember complaing: Karl Anderson or/and Luke Gallows Rusev Curtis Axel Zack Ryder Curt Hawkins I cant remember if there were more Heath Slater was also definitely one of them. And hey, look, he got released too!
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 15, 2020 3:32:05 GMT -5
My question regarding those who spoke up about it getting released - are those really the guys you want "free" to be out there talking about it now?
On that note, has anyone ever point-blank asked any of the guys that were there if they had to sign any NDAs after returning home?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 15, 2020 3:37:32 GMT -5
My question regarding those who spoke up about it getting released - are those really the guys you want "free" to be out there talking about it now? Absolutely not, but on the other hand, you’re not really going to see many of them speak out publicly, in their mind, because the moment they do, they go on the “Less likely to return to the company in any way than Scott Steiner” list. And until WWE isn’t the biggest wrestling company in the world, you’d rather have that option open then not.
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Post by mattyy on Jun 15, 2020 3:51:53 GMT -5
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 15, 2020 4:05:54 GMT -5
It should be said that, considering a lot of those people’s statuses in the company at the time, all of that is probably a coincidence rather than it being a cause and effect.
On the other hand, having that in front with this lawsuit...it’s a horrendously bad look even if it’s completely unintentional. Especially with the fact, so far, the only person who didn’t speak out on Twitter about it who then happened to be fired was Sarah Logan who didn’t even go.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Jun 15, 2020 4:42:25 GMT -5
The plane delay was true and over Vince fighting with the audis If I ever gave Vince McMahon another dime of my own money, it would be to watch him fight an Audi. And this is why I love this place. New photoshop thread?
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Post by Ando9001 on Jun 15, 2020 5:19:45 GMT -5
And they tried to sweep it under the rug and claim reports were false. Whoever CW2 is they must have no desire to return because they didn't just burn that bridge they dropped a nuke on it. Well who was there for 8 years and did the Saudi Show? Im not saying it was him but Erik Rowan was with the company from 2012 through FCW so it could have been him. He wasn't vocal about it at the time though or at least not in public.
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Post by genericusername on Jun 15, 2020 5:33:21 GMT -5
At this point should anyone be surprised that Vince did this? Vince generally seems to treat his employees like trash with some exceptions.
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Post by doinkmark on Jun 15, 2020 7:00:22 GMT -5
The "100,000 subs" number doesn't surprise me. Prichard I believe it was once talked about how WWE kayfabes its numbers all the time by counting fans who watch their shows 2x a week twice instead of once. They argue it's "okay" to lie like that, even on TV, as long as the real numbers get reported to Wall Street and such. So yeah, they probably counted the population of Saudi Arabia and multiplied by 3 for Raw, SD and NXT.
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Post by nisidhe on Jun 15, 2020 7:40:06 GMT -5
FWiW, the only non-American I recall of the releases was Rusev.
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Post by camphor #BLM on Jun 15, 2020 7:49:01 GMT -5
If I ever gave Vince McMahon another dime of my own money, it would be to watch him fight an Audi. And this is why I love this place. New photoshop thread?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2020 8:05:57 GMT -5
My question regarding those who spoke up about it getting released - are those really the guys you want "free" to be out there talking about it now? Wouldn't be shocked if the 'E is working off the ol' "bitter ex employees are not credible because of course they hate us" strategy, mixed with the thought that "most people won't say anything because they wanna come back because WWE is the only big leagues."
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Post by 3cheers4ramirez on Jun 15, 2020 8:32:34 GMT -5
No f***ing way any wrestler in their right mind does that trip Everyone getting their own private plane and getting out of dodge as soon as their match is over if that is the case Thing is, they did another show out there in February. With a lot of the same people who would've been on that flight first time around. It's a strange one, but there doesn't seem to be large numbers of talent rebelling against going out there.
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Post by fw91 on Jun 15, 2020 8:50:28 GMT -5
My reaction to reading this..
...I know some of these words...
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 15, 2020 9:20:44 GMT -5
Definitely some damning allegations if true. Keep in mind this is the complaint in the lawsuit. I didn’t see any sworn statements from the confidential witnesses attached to the complaint. So the allegations in there are unsworn. A sworn affidavit from the wrestler would carry more weight if it does exist. There’s usually the complaint’s allegations, the answer’s denials, and then the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.
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