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Post by Aceorton on Jun 15, 2020 9:57:06 GMT -5
Vince would absolutely take plutonium from Libyan terrorists to power his time machine and in turn give them a shoddy bomb casing filled with used pinball-machine parts.
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Post by Z-A Sandbaggin' Son of a b!%@h on Jun 15, 2020 11:00:40 GMT -5
They’re gonna need more than one person making these claims to garner any truth. Especially if they are recently released because being released makes people bitter. Trust me I used to have to be the guy firing holiday employees at Amazon after Christmas. But it was actually before Christmas because shipping was done. People said all kinds of shit about me just because they were pissed about being let go. So one pissed off wmpliyee isn’t gonna turn that ship.
That said, I’d throw my hat at Rusev, except for the fact that Lana is still there
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 15, 2020 11:15:52 GMT -5
They’re gonna need more than one person making these claims to garner any truth. Especially if they are recently released because being released makes people bitter. Trust me I used to have to be the guy firing holiday employees at Amazon after Christmas. But it was actually before Christmas because shipping was done. People said all kinds of shit about me just because they were pissed about being let go. So one pissed off wmpliyee isn’t gonna turn that ship. That said, I’d throw my hat at Rusev, except for the fact that Lana is still there The years employed line up with Scott Dawson.
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Post by Legion on Jun 15, 2020 12:20:04 GMT -5
They’re gonna need more than one person making these claims to garner any truth. Especially if they are recently released because being released makes people bitter. Trust me I used to have to be the guy firing holiday employees at Amazon after Christmas. But it was actually before Christmas because shipping was done. People said all kinds of shit about me just because they were pissed about being let go. So one pissed off wmpliyee isn’t gonna turn that ship. That said, I’d throw my hat at Rusev, except for the fact that Lana is still there Yup, pretty much. Unless they can get actual evidence, not just testimony, even if it really went down that way, a court of law will be wanting something more than one or two bitter ex-employees or minor stock holders. McDevitt will eat that up and make sure of it. Also, if they ever find out who it was talking, that person is done.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jun 15, 2020 12:37:19 GMT -5
Imagine still choosing to work there
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Post by nisidhe on Jun 15, 2020 12:42:29 GMT -5
They’re gonna need more than one person making these claims to garner any truth. Especially if they are recently released because being released makes people bitter. Trust me I used to have to be the guy firing holiday employees at Amazon after Christmas. But it was actually before Christmas because shipping was done. People said all kinds of shit about me just because they were pissed about being let go. So one pissed off wmpliyee isn’t gonna turn that ship. That said, I’d throw my hat at Rusev, except for the fact that Lana is still there WWE has had a history of disgruntled employees all reporting the same things - that Vince's caprice, and only his caprice, is what determines a WWE wrestler's success with that company; that Vince micromanages the company to the detriment of its long-term profitability; that Kevin Dunn among others has a specific hatred for wrestling and will do anything to erase as much of its culture and history as he can; that Vince has a type he wants at the top of his company's roster. Bear in mind, too, that these are not "employees", but "independent contractors". None of this is new, but WWE a) is very publicly known as a company with political connections to the current President and b) is currently in a heap of public relations SNAFUs that make it very easy for those contractors to speak openly and critically about the company and its handling of talent relations. This is particularly true given that the industry now has multiple potential competitors to WWE for talent and market share. Dawson is the most likely suspect based on timeline, but I would suggest that Zack Ryder has the more reason overall to be pissed with WWE and the least desire to return after his release.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 15, 2020 13:49:24 GMT -5
They’re gonna need more than one person making these claims to garner any truth. Especially if they are recently released because being released makes people bitter. Trust me I used to have to be the guy firing holiday employees at Amazon after Christmas. But it was actually before Christmas because shipping was done. People said all kinds of shit about me just because they were pissed about being let go. So one pissed off wmpliyee isn’t gonna turn that ship. That said, I’d throw my hat at Rusev, except for the fact that Lana is still there WWE has had a history of disgruntled employees all reporting the same things - that Vince's caprice, and only his caprice, is what determines a WWE wrestler's success with that company; that Vince micromanages the company to the detriment of its long-term profitability; that Kevin Dunn among others has a specific hatred for wrestling and will do anything to erase as much of its culture and history as he can; that Vince has a type he wants at the top of his company's roster. Bear in mind, too, that these are not "employees", but "independent contractors". None of this is new, but WWE a) is very publicly known as a company with political connections to the current President and b) is currently in a heap of public relations SNAFUs that make it very easy for those contractors to speak openly and critically about the company and its handling of talent relations. This is particularly true given that the industry now has multiple potential competitors to WWE for talent and market share. Dawson is the most likely suspect based on timeline, but I would suggest that Zack Ryder has the more reason overall to be pissed with WWE and the least desire to return after his release. Ryder was there for 14 years. And his girlfriend (fiancé?) still works for the company so I doubt he would be involved.
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Post by Fade on Jun 15, 2020 14:03:23 GMT -5
That’s so, so, so too-close-for-comfort if all true. I know Vince has always been “my way or the highway”, which has partly contributed to his success, but it’s seemed to aggregate with time and age. Reaching breakneck speeds of “f*** it”. I know he’s got the money. The litigation power. But this company’s going to be around after you’re gone. Maybe think about that legacy.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jun 15, 2020 14:06:53 GMT -5
Imagine still choosing to work there WWE's offering them a lot of money and selling them on the "boyhood dream" cultist BS that many wrestlers fall for. Then Vince pushes them to be competitive with each other for the "top spot" so they're easier to manipulate. Look at Seth Rollins' behavior in 2018-2020. He's the poster boy for buying into the Brass Ring shtick.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jun 15, 2020 16:08:18 GMT -5
I think people have the causality backwards. People who aren't valued by the company are going to be more likely to be fired soon and also will be less afraid to complain about bad stuff they go through.
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Post by Andee9001 on Jun 15, 2020 16:53:18 GMT -5
And this is why I love this place. New photoshop thread? ![OH! MY CAR](https://66.media.tumblr.com/08a3f54d9fdc14b8b6d1a4f9218090ec/a0c61bc96ba6c11b-a6/s1280x1920/f9582aeaad31575d7aaa9cee77422bf736cbf3ec.jpg) Vince: "GOLDBERG!"
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Jun 15, 2020 17:34:10 GMT -5
WWE has had a history of disgruntled employees all reporting the same things - that Vince's caprice, and only his caprice, is what determines a WWE wrestler's success with that company; that Vince micromanages the company to the detriment of its long-term profitability; that Kevin Dunn among others has a specific hatred for wrestling and will do anything to erase as much of its culture and history as he can; that Vince has a type he wants at the top of his company's roster. Bear in mind, too, that these are not "employees", but "independent contractors". None of this is new, but WWE a) is very publicly known as a company with political connections to the current President and b) is currently in a heap of public relations SNAFUs that make it very easy for those contractors to speak openly and critically about the company and its handling of talent relations. This is particularly true given that the industry now has multiple potential competitors to WWE for talent and market share. Dawson is the most likely suspect based on timeline, but I would suggest that Zack Ryder has the more reason overall to be pissed with WWE and the least desire to return after his release. Ryder was there for 14 years. And his girlfriend (fiancé?) still works for the company so I doubt he would be involved. "Won't sign my pool to an exclusive contract? I'll show them!"
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 15, 2020 18:01:42 GMT -5
They’re gonna need more than one person making these claims to garner any truth. Especially if they are recently released because being released makes people bitter. Trust me I used to have to be the guy firing holiday employees at Amazon after Christmas. But it was actually before Christmas because shipping was done. People said all kinds of shit about me just because they were pissed about being let go. So one pissed off wmpliyee isn’t gonna turn that ship. That said, I’d throw my hat at Rusev, except for the fact that Lana is still there All the information about the plane delay was floating out there at the time it happened. Nobody cooked this story up because they got fired, this was already believed to be what happened and whatwas reported on before WWE's 'official' claims. People may have made stuff up about you but that's not what's happening here.
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Post by FHgrad99 on Jun 15, 2020 18:18:42 GMT -5
This really makes Vince look bad. I figured the truth would come out eventually once somebody no longer had to "toe the company line," and tell the WWE's version of the story of what happened.
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Post by TexShark300 on Jun 15, 2020 18:46:39 GMT -5
NOT DEFENDING VINCE
But the Saudi Government, specifically the royal family, are as big, if not bigger POS that VKM is. I can certainly see them negotiating in bad faith from the outset and not paying the WWE as contracted for the June show. I can also see them holding the damn plane hostage without blinking an eye.
There is no babyface here. Heel vs. Heel program all around.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 15, 2020 18:52:37 GMT -5
NOT DEFENDING VINCEBut the Saudi Government, specifically the royal family, are as big, if not bigger POS that VKM is. I can certainly see them negotiating in bad faith from the outset and not paying the WWE as contracted for the June show. I can also see them holding the damn plane hostage without blinking an eye. There is no babyface here. Heel vs. Heel program all around. Oh, it was in one of the financial report that there was a delay in a payment that was to be expected. Now, they didn’t say WHO that was from but it didn’t take a genius to figure out, from the timeframe that the financials were (I believe it was the end of year fiscal report?) that basically confirmed that something happened between WWE and the Saudi government.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jun 15, 2020 18:57:43 GMT -5
The rumor that the wrestlers were essentially hostages in Saudi Arabia ![](https://media1.giphy.com/media/npfNdZkRWiSSA/source.gif) ![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ba/87/ae/ba87ae0b37d9010425208c9b10c63ef2.gif) I nominate this for Post Of The Year.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 15, 2020 19:00:20 GMT -5
NOT DEFENDING VINCEBut the Saudi Government, specifically the royal family, are as big, if not bigger POS that VKM is. I can certainly see them negotiating in bad faith from the outset and not paying the WWE as contracted for the June show. I can also see them holding the damn plane hostage without blinking an eye. There is no babyface here. Heel vs. Heel program all around. The Saudi Royal family is on a level of awful way beyond anything WWE is doing--which is where the "you're only mad about the Saudi deal because you hate Vince" people always had me in stitches--and make any of WWE's worst doings and shadiest dealings seem like child's play. But at the same time, if you're there at the mercy of a government with a high body count who's f***ing you over on deals, maybe don't try to stick it to them? They held the plane hostage because Vince tried to play hardball with them in the worst way, and I don't think getting into this deal was a good idea in the first place, but you have to be a truly reckless idiot to play with the lives of the people who work for you out of stubborn alpha male pride by pulling spite moves while you're still on the ground. Doubly so when you go back there knowing now that your business partner is incredibly willing to play hardball with lives. Vince isn't the most evil person in this deal, but stupidity can look a whole f*** of a lot like ever sometimes.
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Post by Z-A Sandbaggin' Son of a b!%@h on Jun 15, 2020 22:49:07 GMT -5
They’re gonna need more than one person making these claims to garner any truth. Especially if they are recently released because being released makes people bitter. Trust me I used to have to be the guy firing holiday employees at Amazon after Christmas. But it was actually before Christmas because shipping was done. People said all kinds of shit about me just because they were pissed about being let go. So one pissed off wmpliyee isn’t gonna turn that ship. That said, I’d throw my hat at Rusev, except for the fact that Lana is still there All the information about the plane delay was floating out there at the time it happened. Nobody cooked this story up because they got fired, this was already believed to be what happened and whatwas reported on before WWE's 'official' claims. People may have made stuff up about you but that's not what's happening here. I’m not saying it isn’t true. IMO it probably is. I’m just saying that’s what the perception is going to be unless it’s got a bunch of people also saying it. Will never hold water. Especially in a court of law where they can claim the person is just disgruntled.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jun 15, 2020 23:17:20 GMT -5
Imagine honestly trying to fleece the man who had a journalist cut to shreds not even a year before.
And then leaving town with your tail between your legs to make your "independent contractors" face the music for you.
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