Matt Riddle accused of sexual assault (Update Pg 15)

[Fake Jesus]

Am I the only one who finds 15 pages on this a little distasteful? It's one thing to discuss new developments or express sadness but from what I've seen most of this is just speculation over a he-said-she-said scenario. Someone even posted about Joseph McCarthy a few pages ago. I dunno, I just don't see the need for this forum to make pronouncements on the innocence or guilt of either a rape victim or a stalking victim. React to the allegations, sure, maybe give a post or two with your view on the situation, but when we get to the point where we have people calling her "crazy" or saying they instantly dislike Riddle when they look at him, it sort of starts to devolve into the kind of lurid vox populi voyeurism that powers TMZ.

[romanstylesiii]

He also has legal proof she was stalking his family for years. Abusers manipulate and try to play victim. This is not a men vs women issue. This is a society vs abusers issue and that is why evidence matters.

[Display Name]

Jun 22, 2020 18:32:43 GMT -5 romanstylesiii said:

He also has legal proof she was stalking his family for years. Abusers manipulate and try to play victim. This is not a men vs women issue. This is a society vs abusers issue and that is why evidence matters.

*Michael Jackson popcorn gif*

[Feargus McReddit]

So this is awkward.

[Final Countdown Jones]

Okay so that article is sort of scathing and does no favours to any of Riddle's anything, while also making his lawyer seem like even more of a joke.

[Deleted]

“Ms. Tavel then posted my home address and my wife’s phone number on [T]witter,” he wrote. “This caused my wife to receive numerous crank calls and death threats (which are recorded and can be brought to trial).” The alleged tweet is attached to the petition as Exhibit 4, featuring a crude printout of a tweet from Tavel showing text messages she received from Riddle’s wife, Lisa, as well as one of the replies, which included a screenshot from one of many “people finder” websites that showed the Riddles’ last two addresses. In the exhibit, the top of the screenshot, the space that would show Lisa Riddle’s phone number is covered by a piece of paper with “Lisa Riddle Cell Phone #” written on it by hand. The actual tweet (archived here) is still up, though and shows that Tavel redacted Lisa’s phone number when she tweeted the screenshot. As for the Riddles’ home address, no evidence was presented of Tavel tweeting it.

How f***ing bad is this guy's lawyer?

[GuyOfOwnage]

Sept 16, 2020 16:32:05 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

“Ms. Tavel then posted my home address and my wife’s phone number on [T]witter,” he wrote. “This caused my wife to receive numerous crank calls and death threats (which are recorded and can be brought to trial).” The alleged tweet is attached to the petition as Exhibit 4, featuring a crude printout of a tweet from Tavel showing text messages she received from Riddle’s wife, Lisa, as well as one of the replies, which included a screenshot from one of many “people finder” websites that showed the Riddles’ last two addresses. In the exhibit, the top of the screenshot, the space that would show Lisa Riddle’s phone number is covered by a piece of paper with “Lisa Riddle Cell Phone #” written on it by hand. The actual tweet (archived here) is still up, though and shows that Tavel redacted Lisa’s phone number when she tweeted the screenshot. As for the Riddles’ home address, no evidence was presented of Tavel tweeting it.

How f***ing bad is this guy's lawyer?

Honestly, if this is his representation, it doesn't even matter if he's guilty or innocent because he's gonna lose either way. You'd think with that WWE money, he'd hire someone at least halfway competent.

[Zombie Mod]

Sept 16, 2020 16:32:05 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

“Ms. Tavel then posted my home address and my wife’s phone number on [T]witter,” he wrote. “This caused my wife to receive numerous crank calls and death threats (which are recorded and can be brought to trial).” The alleged tweet is attached to the petition as Exhibit 4, featuring a crude printout of a tweet from Tavel showing text messages she received from Riddle’s wife, Lisa, as well as one of the replies, which included a screenshot from one of many “people finder” websites that showed the Riddles’ last two addresses. In the exhibit, the top of the screenshot, the space that would show Lisa Riddle’s phone number is covered by a piece of paper with “Lisa Riddle Cell Phone #” written on it by hand. The actual tweet (archived here) is still up, though and shows that Tavel redacted Lisa’s phone number when she tweeted the screenshot. As for the Riddles’ home address, no evidence was presented of Tavel tweeting it.

How f***ing bad is this guy's lawyer?

somewhere between lionel hutz and the hyperchicken lawyer from futurama

[Feargus McReddit]

Sept 16, 2020 16:44:23 GMT -5 GuyOfOwnage said:

Sept 16, 2020 16:32:05 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

How f***ing bad is this guy's lawyer?

Honestly, if this is his representation, it doesn't even matter if he's guilty or innocent because he's gonna lose either way. You'd think with that WWE money, he'd hire someone at least halfway competent.

Forget WWE money, dude was a big name in the indies for a good while. He’s got no excuse to not pick “his stoner buddy that got his law degree from Community College” as his lawyer.

[Jedi-El of Tomorrow]

Sept 16, 2020 16:44:23 GMT -5 GuyOfOwnage said:

Sept 16, 2020 16:32:05 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

How f***ing bad is this guy's lawyer?

Honestly, if this is his representation, it doesn't even matter if he's guilty or innocent because he's gonna lose either way. You'd think with that WWE money, he'd hire someone at least halfway competent.

Any lawyer with common sense, will tell their client "Just shut up about this. Anybody asks you a question, just respond with 'No comment at this time.' Say nothing else." Heck, you don't need to be a lawyer to know that shit.

This does not look good for Riddel.

[The Warthog]

Sept 16, 2020 16:46:02 GMT -5 Zombie Mod said:

Sept 16, 2020 16:32:05 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

How f***ing bad is this guy's lawyer?

somewhere between lionel hutz and the hyperchicken lawyer from futurama

Too bad he couldn't get the lawyer from IASIP and I don't mean Uncle Jack.

[Deleted]

To say nothing of Riddle’s guilt or innocence in the alleged assault, he’s definitely guilty of hiring a god awful lawyer.

Between this dude, the guy that keeps trying to get the concussion lawsuit going (never forget the time he forgot to change the names from the previous attempt), and Dr. Amann’s lawyer from the defamation suit, it’s been a rough few years.

[polarbearpete]

I may not be remembering correctly, but I thought that the accuser did initially post Riddle’s wife’s number, but then took it down and reposted with it redacted.

[Mr Mario Mario]

Sept 16, 2020 16:46:29 GMT -5 Feargus McReddit said:

Sept 16, 2020 16:44:23 GMT -5 GuyOfOwnage said:

Honestly, if this is his representation, it doesn't even matter if he's guilty or innocent because he's gonna lose either way. You'd think with that WWE money, he'd hire someone at least halfway competent.

Forget WWE money, dude was a big name in the indies for a good while. He’s got no excuse to not pick “his stoner buddy that got his law degree from Community College” as his lawyer.

Honestly if he got Jeff Winger that’d be an improvement

[XIII]

*Dramatization. May not have happened.

[One of the Cooler, Candid TOKs]

Sept 16, 2020 16:32:05 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

“Ms. Tavel then posted my home address and my wife’s phone number on [T]witter,” he wrote. “This caused my wife to receive numerous crank calls and death threats (which are recorded and can be brought to trial).” The alleged tweet is attached to the petition as Exhibit 4, featuring a crude printout of a tweet from Tavel showing text messages she received from Riddle’s wife, Lisa, as well as one of the replies, which included a screenshot from one of many “people finder” websites that showed the Riddles’ last two addresses. In the exhibit, the top of the screenshot, the space that would show Lisa Riddle’s phone number is covered by a piece of paper with “Lisa Riddle Cell Phone #” written on it by hand. The actual tweet (archived here) is still up, though and shows that Tavel redacted Lisa’s phone number when she tweeted the screenshot. As for the Riddles’ home address, no evidence was presented of Tavel tweeting it.

How f***ing bad is this guy's lawyer?

This is the dude who wrote a media release on sticky notes and claimed that he filed a restraining order prior to this going public, then said he never filed it but wrote it out, then said that he intended to write it but never did

[Deleted]

Don't know if he did what he's been accused of or not, but one thing's for sure...

Matt Riddle's a dumbass.

[ronin705]

Well, we shall see if trips stands beside riddle too. Won't lie, bothered by all of this, too much white noise. Just get to court and get the facts

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Pretty easy to see why Riddle's push has died a death on Smackdown, dude was reduced to a background character this week.

[El Cokehead del Knife Fight]

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the second this would've seen the inside of a court room, Riddle went running.