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Post by slaughterama on Jun 25, 2020 22:33:06 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see the quarters. If Cody's segment tanked again, then it's really no longer a trend with him. Would imagine they got absolutely slaughtered in the final quarter as Jericho lost over 100,000 last week, and this week he was up against the triple threat.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 25, 2020 23:15:10 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see the quarters. If Cody's segment tanked again, then it's really no longer a trend with him. Would imagine they got absolutely slaughtered in the final quarter as Jericho lost over 100,000 last week, and this week he was up against the triple threat. The brawl was great, but outside of the Tyson segment, not leading in with a match to maybe have a closing deal hasn't been a good ratings trend for them, even with how over Cassidy is, and how good Jericho is. It going up against a great triple threat is just a bad draw.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 25, 2020 23:16:11 GMT -5
Feels like its time to break up Omega and Hangman and have them join the singles division They have done 800,000 and 700,000 with them as tag champs, this has nothing to do with them being a tag team. The card was weak and also had the unfortunate circumstance of having like three match changes on it, they did what they could this week.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 26, 2020 4:58:37 GMT -5
Feels like its time to break up Omega and Hangman and have them join the singles division They have done 800,000 and 700,000 with them as tag champs, this has nothing to do with them being a tag team. The card was weak and also had the unfortunate circumstance of having like three match changes on it, they did what they could this week. I think his point was less about the tag team being over or not and more since both of then are REALLY over on their own,you can use then more on their own and they can draw more viewers on separate segments
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Post by cabbageboy on Jun 26, 2020 8:12:29 GMT -5
Well, it's also that the AEW world title scene is pretty barren at the moment while they are crazy loading the tag ranks. Omega/Page would be better served finally breaking up and feuding. I think AEW is locked into this ultra slow burn mentality, waiting for fans to return, but it's not happening.
But as far as this week's show goes I think it was just a lame duck show a week before Fyter Fest. It seemed skippable while NXT had a notable main event.
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Post by moxfan1 on Jun 26, 2020 8:50:41 GMT -5
Feels like its time to break up Omega and Hangman and have them join the singles division The problem is outside of Mox/Cage, Cody/Hager and Jericho/Cassidy. They aren't even really using single division. MJF, Archer, Brodie Lee, Matt Hardy were all being used in singles feuds. While a guy like Darby return probably being saved to cost Cage title match. You got MJF/Wardlow who are feuding with Jurassic Express, Brodie Lee recruiting and teaming with Colt Cabana, Matt Hardy mentoring Private Party against Sammy(before suspended) and Santana/Ortiz. While Archer randomly showed up and attacked Janela to set up their match. So even if Page/Omega weren't tag champs. Who says they wouldn't be involved in a tag feud? Here's the problem here. Since Double or Nothing here's top guys singles matches on Dynamite. Guys not in Tag Team Jon Moxley -zero Chris Jericho -Colt Cabana Cody Rhodes-Jungle Boy, Marq Quen, Ricky Starks Brian Cage-Lee Johnson, Shawn Dean, Jon Cruz MJF-Billy Gunn Brodie Lee-zero Lance Archer- zero Matt Hardy - Santana Darby Allin-zero (out with injury) Jake Hager-zero Orange Cassidy-zero Wardlow- Lucharusas Right there is top 12 guys who where around not counting Pac or Page/Omega(who you can still use in singles)or even Dustin Rhodes(who you could have singles matches). Not one time did they face each other. They either didn't have them wrestle or in tags or face lower card guys or jobbers. Again when you are putting on weekly tv show in this day and age. You need to have some more compelling big match ups. You don't need to blow through every big match up. But you can have at least ONE big match up per show. When you do AEW Dark quality matches(per pandemic) on tv so often. Well the ratings are going to drop.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jun 26, 2020 15:24:35 GMT -5
I think they really don't want to blow off any long-term storylines they have planned until fans come back.
However, with the way things are going in Florida, they may not have much of a choice.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 26, 2020 15:49:38 GMT -5
I think they really don't want to blow off any long-term storylines they have planned until fans come back. However, with the way things are going in Florida, they may not have much of a choice. The pandemic really f***ed up most of their long-term storylines sadly.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 26, 2020 19:35:46 GMT -5
Heard the quarter hour breakdowns were delayed, which sucks cause I really wanna see them this week, lol
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Post by kimrey on Jun 26, 2020 19:41:04 GMT -5
Heard the quarter hour breakdowns were delayed, which sucks cause I really wanna see them this week, lol Ugh me too, I’ve been checking all day!
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Post by markymark on Jun 26, 2020 22:06:03 GMT -5
Due to a Nielsen glitch and other work in getting the show done, further information on the Wednesday shows won’t be available until next week’s issue, although AEW only won one quarter, the second, overall and won six of eight in 18-49, but the final 30 minutes saw NXT ahead of AEW in 18-49. The main event segment from a viewership standpoint was an 852,000 to 552,000 margin for NXT, even more notable since AEW had Matt Hardy, Chris Jericho and Orange Cassidy featured in those last 30 minutes.
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Post by holyshida on Jun 26, 2020 22:27:16 GMT -5
It's not good but I think they'll bounce back pretty well next week for Fyter Fest.
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Post by moxfan1 on Jun 26, 2020 22:29:11 GMT -5
Due to a Nielsen glitch and other work in getting the show done, further information on the Wednesday shows won’t be available until next week’s issue, although AEW only won one quarter, the second, overall and won six of eight in 18-49, but the final 30 minutes saw NXT ahead of AEW in 18-49. The main event segment from a viewership standpoint was an 852,000 to 552,000 margin for NXT, even more notable since AEW had Matt Hardy, Chris Jericho and Orange Cassidy featured in those last 30 minutes. --- Iirc Q2 had Shida/Penelope and Cody/Hager conference call. This was predictable. Look I like Orange Cassidy as much as the next guy. But trying to make his and Jericho feud more then mid card filler was mistake. Especially when NXT had Balor vs Lee vs Gargano for title with winner facing Cole. That would be like if AEW had Cody vs Omega vs MJF for TNT title with winner facing Moxley title for title. While NXT had say Ciampa brawling with Fandango lol. I know it's not exactly the same. But one show had a big time match up and another show had Jericho brawling with comedy guy. AEW going head to head with WWE who's trying to take them down. You can't have these filler AEW Dark level match ups for 3 or 4 weeks. While NXT has Takeover level main event on their shows. So I said it many times and I'll say it again. AEW needs to stop holding back and give people more of a reason to watch the show. It's not hard for AEW to say this week Kenny Omega vs Dustin Rhodes or Kenny Omega vs Lance Archer or Omega vs Brodie Lee. Or say before Brian Cage match with Moxley will have to take on Matt Hardy or Dustin Rhodes. Or have Moxley vs Lucharusas or Moxley vs Scorpio Sky etc. Or heck how about Moxley/Cody vs Cage/Hager main event go home show to Fyter Fest? I understand Moxley missed the show but plans for him was to wrestle Jon Cruz who Cage squashed. They just need to use their talent and create match up that interest people. They haven't done that much since Double or Nothing.
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Post by markymark on Jun 26, 2020 22:31:17 GMT -5
I wouldnt be surprised if they have Cody vs Hager main event Night 1 due to the ratings.(Even if the match quality is questionable)
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Post by cabbageboy on Jun 26, 2020 22:43:54 GMT -5
AEW has a problem with PPV follow up. Note that NXT started beating them after Full Gear last year, when AEW's TV was kinda meandering and not doing anything. Then they took the holidays off and came back strong in Jan. Right now they can't really do a storyline advancement if they want fans there, so stuff like the final Elite/Inner Circle blow off can't happen, nor the Page/Omega break up.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Jun 26, 2020 22:44:32 GMT -5
Bold prediction: Fyter Fest will lose to NXT. AEW is in a slump atm with a lot of the show feeling stagnant, much like NXT was in that stretch earlier this year. AEW will rebound after Fyter Fest if they can keep doing shows and move toward more marquee matchups than Mox vs Cage. Mox hasn't had a real title defence so far, with both Cage and Lee being obvious options. For this reign not to feel like a flop (due to obvious reasons) he has to go over in a big feud for Double or Nothing.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 26, 2020 22:45:00 GMT -5
Due to a Nielsen glitch and other work in getting the show done, further information on the Wednesday shows won’t be available until next week’s issue, although AEW only won one quarter, the second, overall and won six of eight in 18-49, but the final 30 minutes saw NXT ahead of AEW in 18-49. The main event segment from a viewership standpoint was an 852,000 to 552,000 margin for NXT, even more notable since AEW had Matt Hardy, Chris Jericho and Orange Cassidy featured in those last 30 minutes. --- Iirc Q2 had Shida/Penelope and Cody/Hager conference call. This was predictable. Look I like Orange Cassidy as much as the next guy. But trying to make his and Jericho feud more then mid card filler was mistake. Especially when NXT had Balor vs Lee vs Gargano for title with winner facing Cole. That would be like if AEW had Cody vs Omega vs MJF for TNT title with winner facing Moxley title for title. While NXT had say Ciampa brawling with Fandango lol. I know it's not exactly the same. But one show had a big time match up and another show had Jericho brawling with comedy guy. AEW going head to head with WWE who's trying to take them down. You can't have these filler AEW Dark level match ups for 3 or 4 weeks. While NXT has Takeover level main event on their shows. So I said it many times and I'll say it again. AEW needs to stop holding back and give people more of a reason to watch the show. It's not hard for AEW to say this week Kenny Omega vs Dustin Rhodes or Kenny Omega vs Lance Archer or Omega vs Brodie Lee. Or say before Brian Cage match with Moxley will have to take on Matt Hardy or Dustin Rhodes. Or have Moxley vs Lucharusas or Moxley vs Scorpio Sky etc. Or heck how about Moxley/Cody vs Cage/Hager main event go home show to Fyter Fest? I understand Moxley missed the show but plans for him was to wrestle Jon Cruz who Cage squashed. They just need to use their talent and create match up that interest people. They haven't done that much since Double or Nothing. Jericho Cassidy was also only the last 5-10 minutes against a big main event in a already big inconsistent setting. The Main Event the past two weeks also had low viewerships all involving people that usually get great ratings. I also feel like the main event numbers are more a culmination of views through the show.Which is an issue all together.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 27, 2020 1:01:16 GMT -5
Due to a Nielsen glitch and other work in getting the show done, further information on the Wednesday shows won’t be available until next week’s issue, although AEW only won one quarter, the second, overall and won six of eight in 18-49, but the final 30 minutes saw NXT ahead of AEW in 18-49. The main event segment from a viewership standpoint was an 852,000 to 552,000 margin for NXT, even more notable since AEW had Matt Hardy, Chris Jericho and Orange Cassidy featured in those last 30 minutes. --- Iirc Q2 had Shida/Penelope and Cody/Hager conference call. The last half hour was hurt by obvious winner in Matt vs Santana, the loss of Guevara, and a talking segment going up against a star studded triple threat Orange vs Jericho is a great match on paper, and the build has been fun, I think the issue has just been the overall timing, how the shows have been structured, and what it's up against. Either way, I feel this will be a star making match for Orange. Interesting how the girls and Cody/Hager were the top draws this week. People thought Hager would be a bore but that's turning out to not be the case, people are interested which is good. Shida's just Shida, and it was a great brawl segment with yknow a seven second match thrown in there. It was just a weak show, I hope they rebound for Fyter but it's a stacked two nights, I think they can.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 27, 2020 1:07:49 GMT -5
Due to a Nielsen glitch and other work in getting the show done, further information on the Wednesday shows won’t be available until next week’s issue, although AEW only won one quarter, the second, overall and won six of eight in 18-49, but the final 30 minutes saw NXT ahead of AEW in 18-49. The main event segment from a viewership standpoint was an 852,000 to 552,000 margin for NXT, even more notable since AEW had Matt Hardy, Chris Jericho and Orange Cassidy featured in those last 30 minutes. --- Iirc Q2 had Shida/Penelope and Cody/Hager conference call. This was predictable. Look I like Orange Cassidy as much as the next guy. But trying to make his and Jericho feud more then mid card filler was mistake. Especially when NXT had Balor vs Lee vs Gargano for title with winner facing Cole. That would be like if AEW had Cody vs Omega vs MJF for TNT title with winner facing Moxley title for title. While NXT had say Ciampa brawling with Fandango lol. I know it's not exactly the same. But one show had a big time match up and another show had Jericho brawling with comedy guy. Stop putting Cassidy in the bubble of "Just a comedy guy", we've gotten past that point. The PAC match showed it, the Fenix match showed it. He has comedy yes but the dude can go, and the last few weeks of the build has been a serious one, and the brawl especially with the ending show of Orange was a great visual. The segment itself has almost half a million views on their Youtube, which is superior to everything else theyve uploaded by a wide margin It's not that it isn't good, it's just NXT had the stronger match against it. I feel like the low viewership is being taken at too much of a face value too, because of those follow up viewers online, it's showing there is mad interest for this match, it just was given a bad draw this week. A weak card that had three audibles to it at the last minute, would hurt any show, including NXT. I get your frustrations and points with how things should be going, but this week is hard to blame on AEW imo. They did the best they could, and they're trying to save their big matches for crowds to return. Maybe in the end that will prove fruitless, but at least those will come in time. I agree after Fyter they need to kick something into high gear, but, after Fyter, they got bigger fish to fry as well with how Florida is getting. They might need to plan out a months worth of story and tape, we'll see how it goes.
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Post by deezy on Jun 27, 2020 3:42:02 GMT -5
This was predictable. Look I like Orange Cassidy as much as the next guy. But trying to make his and Jericho feud more then mid card filler was mistake. Especially when NXT had Balor vs Lee vs Gargano for title with winner facing Cole. That would be like if AEW had Cody vs Omega vs MJF for TNT title with winner facing Moxley title for title. While NXT had say Ciampa brawling with Fandango lol. I know it's not exactly the same. But one show had a big time match up and another show had Jericho brawling with comedy guy. Stop putting Cassidy in the bubble of "Just a comedy guy", we've gotten past that point. The PAC match showed it, the Fenix match showed it. He has comedy yes but the dude can go, and the last few weeks of the build has been a serious one, and the brawl especially with the ending show of Orange was a great visual. The segment itself has almost half a million views on their Youtube, which is superior to everything else theyve uploaded by a wide margin It's not that it isn't good, it's just NXT had the stronger match against it. I feel like the low viewership is being taken at too much of a face value too, because of those follow up viewers online, it's showing there is mad interest for this match, it just was given a bad draw this week. A weak card that had three audibles to it at the last minute, would hurt any show, including NXT. I get your frustrations and points with how things should be going, but this week is hard to blame on AEW imo. They did the best they could, and they're trying to save their big matches for crowds to return. Maybe in the end that will prove fruitless, but at least those will come in time. I agree after Fyter they need to kick something into high gear, but, after Fyter, they got bigger fish to fry as well with how Florida is getting. They might need to plan out a months worth of story and tape, we'll see how it goes. OC reminds me Santino Marella. Clear comedy wrestler can somewhat go in the ring. Thing is fans mostly want to see his comedy ( which in over time will run its course like other comedy bits). There is absolutely nothing wrong with being an mid card comedy act who can do some wrestling. Everyone has a role and he does his role ( no pun intended Britt ) very well. He is not an main event, carry the company into mainstream wrestler. I would like to be wrong because I'm one of the few old school fans who like him, I just don't see his act being good for business on a main event stage week after week, month after month, etc.
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