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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 21, 2020 22:52:26 GMT -5
I hope the announcement isn't underwhelming like the FTW Championship introduction was. It's gonna be awkward if Brandi announces the new Female Tag World Championships
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Post by Celgress on Jul 21, 2020 23:09:26 GMT -5
I hope the announcement isn't underwhelming like the FTW Championship introduction was. It's gonna be awkward if Brandi announces the new Female Tag World Championships Hey, at least it isn't a glorified cosplay title, so yeah, not as bad in my book.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 21, 2020 23:14:31 GMT -5
I hope the announcement isn't underwhelming like the FTW Championship introduction was. Ftw title aside I feel like AEW has done a good job of making titles feel important so here is hoping that if a women's tag title is made they continue the trend
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 22, 2020 0:32:06 GMT -5
I hope the announcement isn't underwhelming like the FTW Championship introduction was. Ftw title aside I feel like AEW has done a good job of making titles feel important so here is hoping that if a women's tag title is made they continue the trend I dont feel like the FTW Title is a wash anyway. The timing was off and they shoulda just had Taz announce it this week instead of earlier just to have one defense of it. I still think it could be a viable mid-tier belt if they care enough, they certainly have the bodies for it.
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Post by 3cheers4ramirez on Jul 22, 2020 4:02:52 GMT -5
Not sure putting on a tournament almost exclusively featuring teams no-one has ever heard of is the way to go.
Might be proven wrong, but I think they need to establish more women on the roster before this. And put some energy into signing some bigger names.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 22, 2020 4:58:04 GMT -5
Not sure putting on a tournament almost exclusively featuring teams no-one has ever heard of is the way to go. Might be proven wrong, but I think they need to establish more women on the roster before this. And put some energy into signing some bigger names. A tourney isn't official, but I mean look how successful WWE's Cruiserweight Classic and Mae Young Classic were, yes they had some bigger indy names but also featured a ton of people nobody ever even heard of. If they do a tournament and introduce new talent through it, they could still have matches about it on DARK (And it'd be a great way to promote DARK tbh) and maybe have the semis and final on Dynamite itself. There are ways to go about this without it feeling meaningless, you can build the talent and the climax, again, if that's what they're going to do. All signs point to a tourney though if tag belts are introduced because introducing tag belts with like one established team, and that team kinda hates each other but co-exists just enough to win, doesn't seem like the best plan. Through a tourney you can introduce talent, hype them up with video packages, and build their journey's through it. And since DARK can be however long Tony and AEW really wants, that's why I think DARK would be a great funnel for it and a great way to promote DARK with matches that would be unpredictable which DARK has been lacking lately even though I've enjoyed it. Helps Dynaite's paying attention to DARK more as well noting the ticker, and Khan said DARK is in for a stacked show next week in terms of talent on Twitter. So... I guess we'll see tonight what they go with
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jul 22, 2020 8:11:48 GMT -5
Not sure putting on a tournament almost exclusively featuring teams no-one has ever heard of is the way to go. Might be proven wrong, but I think they need to establish more women on the roster before this. And put some energy into signing some bigger names. A tourney isn't official, but I mean look how successful WWE's Cruiserweight Classic and Mae Young Classic were, yes they had some bigger indy names but also featured a ton of people nobody ever even heard of. If they do a tournament and introduce new talent through it, they could still have matches about it on DARK (And it'd be a great way to promote DARK tbh) and maybe have the semis and final on Dynamite itself. There are ways to go about this without it feeling meaningless, you can build the talent and the climax, again, if that's what they're going to do. All signs point to a tourney though if tag belts are introduced because introducing tag belts with like one established team, and that team kinda hates each other but co-exists just enough to win, doesn't seem like the best plan. Through a tourney you can introduce talent, hype them up with video packages, and build their journey's through it. And since DARK can be however long Tony and AEW really wants, that's why I think DARK would be a great funnel for it and a great way to promote DARK with matches that would be unpredictable which DARK has been lacking lately even though I've enjoyed it. Helps Dynaite's paying attention to DARK more as well noting the ticker, and Khan said DARK is in for a stacked show next week in terms of talent on Twitter. So... I guess we'll see tonight what they go with I think my only problem, and I know it can't be help, will be the lack of non-American based wrestlers if they do a tournament. Again, I get why, just unfortunate is all. Ever since Shida and Kris started teaming a ton I figured AEW would eventually create a tag division.
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Post by 4real on Jul 22, 2020 8:37:19 GMT -5
Turns out they're one in the same - Cody's challenger is Brandi. He left one unfinished Diet Coke laying around the house too many. She still hasn’t forgiven him for getting that neck tat.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 10:19:07 GMT -5
I get the point that the women's division isn't established enough, but to me this is the perfect way to establish it. You can have a tournament for the titles with like 8 teams, and create several stories to spin out of it.
- The obvious story of the winners
- The obvious story of the runners up feeling like they need to prove themselves, leading to a tag title rematch.
- The obvious story of a team that doesn't get along leading to a singles feud.
- You can have someone pin the Women's Champ in a tag tournament match and then get a Title shot NJPW style.
- The story of a team "gelling". The continuing teamwork of Allie and Brandi would be perfect for this.
- You can have two team get way out of control during their match, leading to a blood feud between them.
And then boom, you have several storylines spinning out of the woman's division just because of this tournament.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jul 22, 2020 10:33:25 GMT -5
Please no. AEW's women's stuff is already instant FF material. No use doubling down on more of it so we can get more of Brandi Rhodes on TV.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jul 22, 2020 10:45:25 GMT -5
Not sure putting on a tournament almost exclusively featuring teams no-one has ever heard of is the way to go. Might be proven wrong, but I think they need to establish more women on the roster before this. And put some energy into signing some bigger names. The thing is, if they're holding out for bigger names, they are out of time. Women's title matches do well in the ratings, Britt Baker is a ratings and merch success, the women are solid as a money making prospect right now. But...they will nosedive hard if repetition and boredom are the name of the game. If Shida is reduced to Wheel of Aggression'ing her way through Ford, Baker, Swole, and Nyla, she will get boring. If Britt only ever makes fun of Tony Schiavone without getting matches and angles that make use of her heel persona, she will get boring. And when these wrestlers get boring, their merch sales are likely to go down and they could become damaged goods. They can't wait for Yuka, Statlander, Riho, Priestley, and Shanna to come back. That could be as long as another half a year before all of them are back, and that's a best case scenario. If they want Britt and Shida and Nyla and Swole to stay popular, they need to keep up a steady pace of angles and opponents for them. They can't wait on WWE releases, so the biggest names they can get are people on the indies. And as is, people available on the indies include both Shimmer singles champions, the NWA women's champion, their respective tag partners, and a whole bunch of WOW wrestlers who lost their TV time this year. With WWE and Impact having locked their talent into multi-year deals, that's the best that AEW can get for another two or three years at minimum. In short....the AEW women's division needs a Hail Mary, and they need it fast before their current stars get stale from the doldrums. That Hail Mary can't come from the current roster, because Anna Jay, Abadon, and Diamante having a feud apiece with Shida, Swole, Baker, and Ford for the next few months will only delay the inevitable.
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Post by 3cheers4ramirez on Jul 22, 2020 10:47:09 GMT -5
Not sure putting on a tournament almost exclusively featuring teams no-one has ever heard of is the way to go. Might be proven wrong, but I think they need to establish more women on the roster before this. And put some energy into signing some bigger names. A tourney isn't official, but I mean look how successful WWE's Cruiserweight Classic and Mae Young Classic were, yes they had some bigger indy names but also featured a ton of people nobody ever even heard of. If they do a tournament and introduce new talent through it, they could still have matches about it on DARK (And it'd be a great way to promote DARK tbh) and maybe have the semis and final on Dynamite itself. There are ways to go about this without it feeling meaningless, you can build the talent and the climax, again, if that's what they're going to do. All signs point to a tourney though if tag belts are introduced because introducing tag belts with like one established team, and that team kinda hates each other but co-exists just enough to win, doesn't seem like the best plan. Through a tourney you can introduce talent, hype them up with video packages, and build their journey's through it. And since DARK can be however long Tony and AEW really wants, that's why I think DARK would be a great funnel for it and a great way to promote DARK with matches that would be unpredictable which DARK has been lacking lately even though I've enjoyed it. Helps Dynaite's paying attention to DARK more as well noting the ticker, and Khan said DARK is in for a stacked show next week in terms of talent on Twitter. So... I guess we'll see tonight what they go with Genuine question, how successful were the CWC and MYC? And as you say, they both featured at least some wrestlers people have heard of. I actually agree with you in if it's a Dark thing, fine. That's what Dark's for. I'd just be suprised if they gave over an increasing amount of Dynamite to what will initially be totally heatless matches between relative nobodies.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jul 22, 2020 19:42:26 GMT -5
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Post by Instant Classic on Jul 22, 2020 20:17:56 GMT -5
They have no women stars at all besides Britt and Nyla but sure get a tag division.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 22, 2020 21:14:25 GMT -5
Going for a cup makes sense, glad they're going for that instead of belts at this juncture. It'll be an accolade for two of the women, and it'll test the waters for more later on, perhaps. Please no. AEW's women's stuff is already instant FF material. No use doubling down on more of it so we can get more of Brandi Rhodes on TV. You hate women's wrestling, we heard you the first four hundred times.
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Post by Starshine on Jul 22, 2020 21:19:11 GMT -5
I don't think they have the depth for a full fledged tag division. But I like the idea of a tournament as a whole. Plus it can be a litmus test for a potential division in the future.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 22, 2020 21:20:11 GMT -5
They have no women stars at all besides Britt and Nyla but sure get a tag division. It's not a tag divison as much as a tag tourney for a cup to enhance girls and storylines together Great way to introduce girls, build feuds, and make partnerships and even rivalries. Note the undertitle is "The deadly draw", sounds like this could be a team where partners are drawn in a lottery or something They don't need a tag division to make this work, and it's not for belts that we know of so this can work just fine
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 22, 2020 21:21:05 GMT -5
Well the fact they said 16 girls means we are guaranteed some surprises here, I'm hoping for some really good looks and signings, and some fun teams. I think it's to their benefit that it's for a cup right now and not tag titles. You could then make it a yearly thing, and see how it goes.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jul 22, 2020 21:22:08 GMT -5
I'm tentatively excited for it. Advertising the number of wrestlers involved is certainly an interesting way to promise it's more than the, what, 9 that we have active right now?
But...I'll have more of a reaction when we see who is involved. It is at least An Idea, which the division has badly needed, and a promise of more wrestlers, which it has also needed. Obviously, I have a long list of wrestlers that I would love to see, and I would love to see them either here or in Shida's open challenge.
I will admittedly be very disappointed if the full number is filled out with the trainee crowd.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jul 22, 2020 21:27:05 GMT -5
I don't think they have the depth for a full fledged tag division. They don't have the depth for a singles division right now. There's really not much solution beyond "hire a bunch of people" either way, so might as well hire with an eye toward tag teams.
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