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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 7, 2020 21:23:24 GMT -5
Ok I'm just gonna say it, they clearly don't care about this division. It feels like a necessity. They rarely have a story, are held down to one segment a show and as it was brought up in the live thread, it's always the second to last match. Almost like it's a breather for the closing event. Shida has not been present in two weeks, they gave Nyla a manager and then she did nothing, Britt returned last week and had no appearance tonight. And I don't want to hear Oh all the talent is missing etc. No that's bullshit, they have plenty of talent. Abadon, Shida,Britt, Nyla, Ivelisse, Diamante, Penelope, Anna Jay, Tay Conti and so on. It's pretty damn embarrassing at this point. Especially for a company that touted about how great they would do with women I feel like the division is simply going through a soft reboot right now, and it will be addressed on the anniversary show, especially if this poster is anything to go by As I said before, if they do nothing on the anniversary show, a post like this might have merit, but I think a gun is being jumped here. I think they're gonna have a big announcement and maybe even returns of some of the locked out girls next week.
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Post by Celgress on Oct 7, 2020 21:24:47 GMT -5
Ok I'm just gonna say it, they clearly don't care about this division. It feels like a necessity. They rarely have a story, are held down to one segment a show and as it was brought up in the live thread, it's always the second to last match. Almost like it's a breather for the closing event. Shida has not been present in two weeks, they gave Nyla a manager and then she did nothing, Britt returned last week and had no appearance tonight. And I don't want to hear Oh all the talent is missing etc. No that's bullshit, they have plenty of talent. Abadon, Shida,Britt, Nyla, Ivelisse, Diamante, Penelope, Anna Jay, Tay Conti and so on. It's pretty damn embarrassing at this point. Especially for a company that touted about how great they would do with women Regrettably, I must agree with you. I had hoped Tessa, for all her attitude problems, would be signed by AEW rather than WWE but now I've reconsidered my position. I don't think a hot young talent such as Tessa should join a company that obviously doesn't care about the division she'll be a part of. It pains me to write this but I'm truly starting to believe AEW's Women's Division is an afterthought at best an obliged inconvenience at worst.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 7, 2020 21:28:23 GMT -5
Ok I'm just gonna say it, they clearly don't care about this division. It feels like a necessity. They rarely have a story, are held down to one segment a show and as it was brought up in the live thread, it's always the second to last match. Almost like it's a breather for the closing event. Shida has not been present in two weeks, they gave Nyla a manager and then she did nothing, Britt returned last week and had no appearance tonight. And I don't want to hear Oh all the talent is missing etc. No that's bullshit, they have plenty of talent. Abadon, Shida,Britt, Nyla, Ivelisse, Diamante, Penelope, Anna Jay, Tay Conti and so on. It's pretty damn embarrassing at this point. Especially for a company that touted about how great they would do with women Regrettably, I must agree with you. I had hoped Tessa, for all her attitude problems, would be signed by AEW rather than WWE but now I've reconsidered my position. I don't think a hot young talent such as Tessa should join a company that obviously doesn't care about the division she'll be a part of. It pains me to write this but I'm truly starting to believe AEW's Women's Division is an afterthought at best an obliged inconvenience at worst. Nah, Tessa can stay the hell away. She's the farthest thing from a hot talent at this point, the only thing hot about her are the bridges she has burned. They've been signing girls and building up storylines, it's just a matter of getting the title scene back on track. Next week is as good a week as ever to do it.
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Post by Celgress on Oct 7, 2020 21:38:08 GMT -5
Regrettably, I must agree with you. I had hoped Tessa, for all her attitude problems, would be signed by AEW rather than WWE but now I've reconsidered my position. I don't think a hot young talent such as Tessa should join a company that obviously doesn't care about the division she'll be a part of. It pains me to write this but I'm truly starting to believe AEW's Women's Division is an afterthought at best an obliged inconvenience at worst. Nah, Tessa can stay the hell away. She's the farthest thing from a hot talent at this point, the only thing hot about her are the bridges she has burned. They've been signing girls and building up storylines, it's just a matter of getting the title scene back on track. Next week is as good a week as ever to do it. We shall see. I have my doubts.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Oct 7, 2020 21:51:46 GMT -5
Regrettably, I must agree with you. I had hoped Tessa, for all her attitude problems, would be signed by AEW rather than WWE but now I've reconsidered my position. I don't think a hot young talent such as Tessa should join a company that obviously doesn't care about the division she'll be a part of. It pains me to write this but I'm truly starting to believe AEW's Women's Division is an afterthought at best an obliged inconvenience at worst. Nah, Tessa can stay the hell away. She's the farthest thing from a hot talent at this point, the only thing hot about her are the bridges she has burned. They've been signing girls and building up storylines, it's just a matter of getting the title scene back on track. Next week is as good a week as ever to do it. I like your optimism but I can't agree sadly. So far they've done nothing to prove they want to get this back on track. I love AEW but man it sucks that they can't do this right. It's the one thing WWE and NXT have above them.
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Post by Facetious on Oct 7, 2020 22:03:56 GMT -5
Nah, Tessa can stay the hell away. She's the farthest thing from a hot talent at this point, the only thing hot about her are the bridges she has burned. They've been signing girls and building up storylines, it's just a matter of getting the title scene back on track. Next week is as good a week as ever to do it. I like your optimism but I can't agree sadly. So far they've done nothing to prove they want to get this back on track. I love AEW but man it sucks that they can't do this right. It's the one thing WWE and NXT have above them. It's been a year long issue. Every time it feels like they're finally getting the women on track, it's back to this shit. Shida is the longest reigning champion and her only worthwhile feud was a out of nowhere two week build to All Out with Rosa. Nyla was supposed to be pissed off, yet nothing has come of it. Swole beats Britt at All Out and disappears for a few weeks. Britt just came back from the loss and... nothing this week. It's just frustrating. Even Abadon retweeted someone begging for her to wrestle again on Dark. DARK.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Oct 7, 2020 22:08:52 GMT -5
I like your optimism but I can't agree sadly. So far they've done nothing to prove they want to get this back on track. I love AEW but man it sucks that they can't do this right. It's the one thing WWE and NXT have above them. It's been a year long issue. Every time it feels like they're finally getting the women on track, it's back to this shit. Shida is the longest reigning champion and her only worthwhile feud was a out of nowhere two week build to All Out with Rosa. Nyla was supposed to be pissed off, yet nothing has come of it. Swole beats Britt at All Out and disappears for a few weeks. Britt just came back from the loss and... nothing this week. It's just frustrating. Even Abadon retweeted someone begging for her to wrestle again on Dark. DARK. It really sucks because they have talent and I gave them the benefit of the doubt but like you said it's been a whole year of this now and goddamn is it deflating to see them not fix these issues
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Post by Celgress on Oct 7, 2020 22:11:00 GMT -5
I like your optimism but I can't agree sadly. So far they've done nothing to prove they want to get this back on track. I love AEW but man it sucks that they can't do this right. It's the one thing WWE and NXT have above them. It's been a year long issue. Every time it feels like they're finally getting the women on track, it's back to this shit. Shida is the longest reigning champion and her only worthwhile feud was a out of nowhere two week build to All Out with Rosa. Nyla was supposed to be pissed off, yet nothing has come of it. Swole beats Britt at All Out and disappears for a few weeks. Britt just came back from the loss and... nothing this week. It's just frustrating. Even Abadon retweeted someone begging for her to wrestle again on Dark. DARK. That's just sad but understandable which makes it all the sadder.
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Post by markymark on Oct 7, 2020 22:20:23 GMT -5
Feels like the only way the division can have a proper revival is if they get a Stardom partnership next year...
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Post by Dub H on Oct 7, 2020 22:49:11 GMT -5
I think currently it is better than before,but still not great.Especially for Shida, she is having LESS storylines than when she first won the title.
I get the focus is on building more woman,but you need both
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 7, 2020 23:00:11 GMT -5
I like your optimism but I can't agree sadly. So far they've done nothing to prove they want to get this back on track. I love AEW but man it sucks that they can't do this right. It's the one thing WWE and NXT have above them. It's been a year long issue. Every time it feels like they're finally getting the women on track, it's back to this shit. Shida is the longest reigning champion and her only worthwhile feud was a out of nowhere two week build to All Out with Rosa. Nyla was supposed to be pissed off, yet nothing has come of it. Swole beats Britt at All Out and disappears for a few weeks. Britt just came back from the loss and... nothing this week. It's just frustrating. Even Abadon retweeted someone begging for her to wrestle again on Dark. DARK. Abadon's been working out and getting in better shape, she's been advid about this on socials. So I can buy her being out due to training. She could be back this coming DARK though who knows Again they have the talent, they have the ability. Best course would imo be what they're doing with the men, a Tourney to build up talent. They had the tag tourney but a legit women's singles tourney also might help. The future of the division has to be told at the Anniversary show imo, with all the titles getting a spot, the women's title at the very least needs to establish a pecking order and feud.
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Post by Facetious on Oct 7, 2020 23:01:16 GMT -5
I think currently it is better than before,but still not great.Especially for Shida, she is having LESS storylines than when she first won the title. I get the focus is on building more woman,but you need both Shit, give us promos, vignettes, SOMETHING
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 23:21:20 GMT -5
Yeah, this still feels like they just see the division entirely as filler they have to have because the optics would be bad if they didn't. They seem to have zero interest in actually giving the women any kind of actual story. It's been a year now and things haven't improved at all.
Really I think it illustrates everything that the women's tag tournament happened entirely on Youtube and has amounted to absolutely nothing for the winners because they've done nothing but lose ever since.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 7, 2020 23:43:22 GMT -5
Yeah, this still feels like they just see the division entirely as filler they have to have because the optics would be bad if they didn't. They seem to have zero interest in actually giving the women any kind of actual story. It's been a year now and things haven't improved at all. Really I think it illustrates everything that the women's tag tournament happened entirely on Youtube and has amounted to absolutely nothing for the winners because they've done nothing but lose ever since. The tag tourney winners got an NWA Women's title match in Ivelisse and a match vs both champs in Rosa and Shida. They didn't win but I mean it's hard to say they haven't done anything since, they've been pretty productive. Also imo, it's worse optics to have a women's division and not do anything with it than not have one at all. They care about the girls or the likes of Dustin wouldn't invest so much time into them and Madusa wouldn't be pushing to book them stronger. If they're still doing nothing when the Anniversary show ends I'll throw my hands up and join the crowd of "Ok guys at this point you gotta do something", but if anything is gonna happen with the division in a big way it's gonna be there, including potential returns, which is why I feel they've been slow in doing anything for the past like two-three weeks.
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Post by polarbearpete on Oct 8, 2020 6:58:36 GMT -5
Yeah, this still feels like they just see the division entirely as filler they have to have because the optics would be bad if they didn't. They seem to have zero interest in actually giving the women any kind of actual story. It's been a year now and things haven't improved at all. Really I think it illustrates everything that the women's tag tournament happened entirely on Youtube and has amounted to absolutely nothing for the winners because they've done nothing but lose ever since. The tag tourney winners got an NWA Women's title match in Ivelisse and a match vs both champs in Rosa and Shida. They didn't win but I mean it's hard to say they haven't done anything since, they've been pretty productive. Also imo, it's worse optics to have a women's division and not do anything with it than not have one at all. They care about the girls or the likes of Dustin wouldn't invest so much time into them and Madusa wouldn't be pushing to book them stronger. If they're still doing nothing when the Anniversary show ends I'll throw my hands up and join the crowd of "Ok guys at this point you gotta do something", but if anything is gonna happen with the division in a big way it's gonna be there, including potential returns, which is why I feel they've been slow in doing anything for the past like two-three weeks. I understand the need to want to defend them, but again they are just making the division an afterthought. Can’t keep kicking the can down the road to the next week and the next week and the next week when they now have plenty of talent for the division after all the signings in recent months. Remember all the equal pay, equal opportunity buzzwords they were proclaiming when the company was first announced, it made us think that they’d actually treat the women as meaningful but they’ve done anything but.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Oct 8, 2020 7:10:01 GMT -5
I was willing to keep giving them chances based on just how abysmal women’s wrestling has been treated stateside for so long, but they’re really falling behind the rest of the pack. This is getting to be Women Of Honor levels of bad.
The attitude of “look, we’re actually letting the ladies have a turn in the ring!” without the time investment isn’t gonna appeal to viewers of any gender spectrum who’ve been watching Charlotte Flair and Becky Lynch kick everyone’s asses and main event shows for two years.
Sometimes it comes off like AEW’s writing for a “Chyna audience” in how much they’re touting the empowerment thing. And much respect to Chyna’s legacy, but that audience is gone. Today it’s an Asuka audience.
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Post by markymark on Oct 8, 2020 7:34:39 GMT -5
I was willing to keep giving them chances based on just how abysmal women’s wrestling has been treated stateside for so long, but they’re really falling behind the rest of the pack. This is getting to be Women Of Honor levels of bad. The attitude of “look, we’re actually letting the ladies have a turn in the ring!” without the time investment isn’t gonna appeal to viewers of any gender spectrum who’ve been watching Charlotte Flair and Becky Lynch kick everyone’s asses and main event shows for two years. Sometimes it comes off like AEW’s writing for a “Chyna audience” in how much they’re touting the empowerment thing. And much respect to Chyna’s legacy, but that audience is gone. Today it’s an Asuka audience. Tessa was pulling it well on Impact before she got exposed though.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Oct 8, 2020 7:47:38 GMT -5
I was willing to keep giving them chances based on just how abysmal women’s wrestling has been treated stateside for so long, but they’re really falling behind the rest of the pack. This is getting to be Women Of Honor levels of bad. The attitude of “look, we’re actually letting the ladies have a turn in the ring!” without the time investment isn’t gonna appeal to viewers of any gender spectrum who’ve been watching Charlotte Flair and Becky Lynch kick everyone’s asses and main event shows for two years. Sometimes it comes off like AEW’s writing for a “Chyna audience” in how much they’re touting the empowerment thing. And much respect to Chyna’s legacy, but that audience is gone. Today it’s an Asuka audience. Tessa was pulling it well on Impact before she got exposed though. She was, but my point was the Chyna “we can do it too” approach doesn’t work anymore in 2020. Today’s audience already expects to see high-tier women’s wrestling.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Oct 8, 2020 8:17:30 GMT -5
Yeah, it's getting worrying. Like, I know they're still rebuilding the division, and it looks like they're still unsure if Diamane and Ivie are a long term fit, but the women were getting more highlights when the division was thinner at this rate. When Britt was on the mend we'd get her and Swole's feud and often a Shida match on Dynamite. Now we're lucky to get the token women's match during the 7th quarter. I'd really like to know the reasoning behind all this to be honest.
With the poster for next week featuring the women's division exclusively, I'm hoping they're using the show to try and kickstart it again but I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Oct 8, 2020 8:22:02 GMT -5
I feel like so many things they wanted to do were derailed for different reasons and not all due to the pandemic.
It is quite obvious a lot of the things they wanted to do or push just didn't connect and then you had injuries like what happened with Statlander and then Brit being out.
Ultimately the division got put in the back burner and AEW deserves criticism for that but they can turn that around
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