Mozenrath
FANatic
Foppery and Whim
Speedy Speed Boy
Posts: 121,978
|
Post by Mozenrath on Oct 14, 2020 10:50:04 GMT -5
I get what Britt is saying but yeah they need to just book it better and not in a certain spot You were already behind the 8 ball with NXT women division but the thing is with them they will have multiple women segments a night. The top womens program either starts the night or ends it AEW needs to figure out a formula that works. They are finally getting the talent back but the women need to be presented as a serious option. JR commentary during their bouts doesn't help matters either Yeah, like, NXT have arguably the most stacked women's division in North America, so I am not expecting AEW to hang on their level right this moment, but having more than one segment per Dynamite would be good. More than one match would be preferable, but a promo, interview, vignette, something, in addition to a women's match, would be a big step in the right direction.
|
|
|
Post by Hypnosis on Oct 14, 2020 11:18:46 GMT -5
I get what Britt is saying but yeah they need to just book it better and not in a certain spot You were already behind the 8 ball with NXT women division but the thing is with them they will have multiple women segments a night. The top womens program either starts the night or ends it AEW needs to figure out a formula that works. They are finally getting the talent back but the women need to be presented as a serious option. JR commentary during their bouts doesn't help matters either Yeah, like, NXT have arguably the most stacked women's division in North America, so I am not expecting AEW to hang on their level right this moment, but having more than one segment per Dynamite would be good. More than one match would be preferable, but a promo, interview, vignette, something, in addition to a women's match, would be a big step in the right direction. It really is glaring when I see NXT and Impact usually open with a women's segment or match, but in AEW, they don't normally get a match until well after the first hour and in the same quarter, which I think is a bad look when this happens as often as it does.
|
|
Mozenrath
FANatic
Foppery and Whim
Speedy Speed Boy
Posts: 121,978
|
Post by Mozenrath on Oct 14, 2020 11:24:37 GMT -5
Yeah, like, NXT have arguably the most stacked women's division in North America, so I am not expecting AEW to hang on their level right this moment, but having more than one segment per Dynamite would be good. More than one match would be preferable, but a promo, interview, vignette, something, in addition to a women's match, would be a big step in the right direction. It really is glaring when I see NXT and Impact usually open with a women's segment or match, but in AEW, they don't normally get a match until well after the first hour and in the same quarter, which I think is a bad look when this happens as often as it does. Given how the tag division definitely grew in importance over time, I feel like it's much less of a "we don't care" and more, "in due time", maybe being reluctant to commit to things too hard with the hope Riho or Kris could be back sooner than later, but I still really think they need to ramp it up, demonstrating more commitment on Dynamite given they've actually done a solid job with them on Dark for a while now. Hopefully, Britt's callout is a start.
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 14, 2020 11:55:18 GMT -5
I get what Britt is saying but yeah they need to just book it better and not in a certain spot You were already behind the 8 ball with NXT women division but the thing is with them they will have multiple women segments a night. The top womens program either starts the night or ends it AEW needs to figure out a formula that works. They are finally getting the talent back but the women need to be presented as a serious option. JR commentary during their bouts doesn't help matters either Yeah, like, NXT have arguably the most stacked women's division in North America, so I am not expecting AEW to hang on their level right this moment, but having more than one segment per Dynamite would be good. More than one match would be preferable, but a promo, interview, vignette, something, in addition to a women's match, would be a big step in the right direction. For as much focus as they rightfully give someone like Cody, the women need to have that same grand entrance and circumstances that makes them "special" Your champion has a program and you should have enough talent to have a "B program" going on. Rhea is a looming threat for the title but in the last few months she has been involved with Aliyah/Stone, Mercedes and now Raquel/Dakota. Candice same thing has gone from Mia Yim to Io Shirai. Multiple women doing multiple things There is no reason that Swole/Shida shouldn't be built up as a big match at this point and main eventing the first year anniversary show. Yes, Cody and Mox have been their guys but in a spot where you may possibly get your biggest rating ever, the women main eventing is a missed opportunity. Brit brought up the "war" with NXT but NXT women draw ratings and they aren't on the same time. The ratings are irrelevant if you can get your talent up. They are behind NXT and Impact on the women scale
|
|
markymark
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Posts: 19,843
Member is Online
|
Post by markymark on Oct 14, 2020 12:44:29 GMT -5
After seeing Nick Jackson saying they have been booking on the fly since the pandemic started, well no wonder Shidas reign has been lackluster.
|
|
Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby
Grimlock
Blanket burrito season is back, and I never left the blankets
Posts: 13,047
Member is Online
|
Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Oct 14, 2020 13:20:46 GMT -5
After seeing Nick Jackson saying they have been booking on the fly since the pandemic started, well no wonder Shidas reign has been lackluster. Agreed. I wonder if it also has to do with what Jack Evans said about how if you don't pitch an angle, you may end up floating around without direction. The general youth of the division likely plays a role there - Nyla and Britt have shown themselves to be very creative and good at networking within the company, but when they're heavy on younger wrestlers with less than five (or even three) years experience (Statlander, Abadon, Red Velvet, Anna Jay, Tay Conti), and when a lot of the more experienced wrestlers are weak in the ring (Brandi, Allie, Mel, Kong, Leva), it's no wonder that the angles are thin and perfunctory. Not an excuse - but there's a lot of evidence for the why, and a lot of squeaky wheels.
|
|
|
Post by romanstylesiii on Oct 14, 2020 13:26:09 GMT -5
I get what Britt is saying but yeah they need to just book it better and not in a certain spot You were already behind the 8 ball with NXT women division but the thing is with them they will have multiple women segments a night. The top womens program either starts the night or ends it AEW needs to figure out a formula that works. They are finally getting the talent back but the women need to be presented as a serious option. JR commentary during their bouts doesn't help matters either Her and Ana are the only female characters they have really invested time with.
|
|
chrom
Backup Wench
Master of the rare undecuple post
Posts: 87,149
Member is Online
|
Post by chrom on Oct 14, 2020 13:28:21 GMT -5
Least they could do with Shida is have her be a constant on TV and winning matches against scrubs like Dani Jordyn or Kenzie Paige. Don't leave her off tv.
|
|
Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
FANatic
Writer, Lover of all things Wrestling. Analytical, Critical, Lovable (hopefully). Lets all have fun!
Posts: 245,103
|
Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 14, 2020 15:07:30 GMT -5
After seeing Nick Jackson saying they have been booking on the fly since the pandemic started, well no wonder Shidas reign has been lackluster. They HAVE had some really great on the fly booking since the pandemic, really good matches and feuds, but they need a balance and can't forget about an entire division/make it seem like an afterthought because people have caught on to the pattern. These guys aren't dumb so I really hope they get it together. Madusa is she's becoming more of a factor in helping the girls with booking and direction, definitely needs to push for more matches or at least promos and vignettes along with Dustin.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 15:28:00 GMT -5
Taya’s contact is up in December I heard.
I can see her wanting to join her husband on Raw but I could see her being picked up by aew as well l.
She’s done all she can do in impact.
I feel they need a make a couple big signings like they had in the men’s divisions, while also putting over new talent on Dark.
|
|
Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby
Grimlock
Blanket burrito season is back, and I never left the blankets
Posts: 13,047
Member is Online
|
Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Oct 14, 2020 15:29:32 GMT -5
Taya’s contact is up in December I heard. I can see her wanting to join her husband on Raw but I could see her being picked up by aew as well l. She’s done all she can do in impact. I feel they need a make a couple big signings like they had in the men’s divisions, while also putting over new talent on Dark. I thought she had just gotten a long extension/new contract?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 15:59:15 GMT -5
Taya’s contact is up in December I heard. I can see her wanting to join her husband on Raw but I could see her being picked up by aew as well l. She’s done all she can do in impact. I feel they need a make a couple big signings like they had in the men’s divisions, while also putting over new talent on Dark. I thought she had just gotten a long extension/new contract? I found the article, its not the from the best source. Taya herself says he signed a two year deal in 2019. So sometime next year.
|
|
markymark
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Posts: 19,843
Member is Online
|
Post by markymark on Oct 14, 2020 16:07:25 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 14, 2020 16:08:38 GMT -5
I get what Britt is saying but yeah they need to just book it better and not in a certain spot You were already behind the 8 ball with NXT women division but the thing is with them they will have multiple women segments a night. The top womens program either starts the night or ends it AEW needs to figure out a formula that works. They are finally getting the talent back but the women need to be presented as a serious option. JR commentary during their bouts doesn't help matters either Yeah, like, NXT have arguably the most stacked women's division in North America, so I am not expecting AEW to hang on their level right this moment, but having more than one segment per Dynamite would be good. More than one match would be preferable, but a promo, interview, vignette, something, in addition to a women's match, would be a big step in the right direction. I think if WWE gave the women less time, AEW would give them even less than they do now. And even WWE doesn't feature them enough.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 16:22:33 GMT -5
Has there been a single Dynamite that has had more than one women's match? A single one?
|
|
Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby
Grimlock
Blanket burrito season is back, and I never left the blankets
Posts: 13,047
Member is Online
|
Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Oct 14, 2020 16:32:03 GMT -5
Has there been a single Dynamite that has had more than one women's match? A single one? I believe it happened once, but I would have to double-check. At least, I remember a podcast that complains about the lack of women's wrestling did a sarcastic "ALERT! ALERT! MULTIPLE WOMEN'S SEGMENTS!" bit.
|
|
markymark
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Posts: 19,843
Member is Online
|
Post by markymark on Oct 14, 2020 16:39:28 GMT -5
Has there been a single Dynamite that has had more than one women's match? A single one? The one that had the botched Dark Order segment with the bad punches, the final show of 2019.
|
|
Facetious
King Koopa
ADAM COLE BAYBAY
Posts: 12,467
|
Post by Facetious on Oct 14, 2020 17:01:11 GMT -5
Has there been a single Dynamite that has had more than one women's match? A single one? I'm pretty sure it's under double digits, but it's happened. Usually two real short matches.
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 14, 2020 17:58:31 GMT -5
Taya’s contact is up in December I heard. I can see her wanting to join her husband on Raw but I could see her being picked up by aew as well l. She’s done all she can do in impact. I feel they need a make a couple big signings like they had in the men’s divisions, while also putting over new talent on Dark. They could be getting Deonna tho She doesn't have a contract with Impact and they want her to re-sign but word is she has her sights on AEW
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 18:29:53 GMT -5
Taya’s contact is up in December I heard. I can see her wanting to join her husband on Raw but I could see her being picked up by aew as well l. She’s done all she can do in impact. I feel they need a make a couple big signings like they had in the men’s divisions, while also putting over new talent on Dark. They could be getting Deonna tho She doesn't have a contract with Impact and they want her to re-sign but word is she has her sights on AEW She supposedly has already told Impact she wants to remain long term with them.
|
|