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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 14, 2020 18:33:00 GMT -5
They could be getting Deonna tho She doesn't have a contract with Impact and they want her to re-sign but word is she has her sights on AEW She supposedly has already told Impact she wants to remain long term with them. She could want both things and it all depends on who wants her more.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Oct 14, 2020 18:34:19 GMT -5
Personally I think they need a locker room leader that can really talk to the higher ups. And it can’t be Brandi.
I personally think someone like Faye Jackson could fit that role. Mercedes could have.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Oct 14, 2020 18:41:32 GMT -5
Personally I think they need a locker room leader that can really talk to the higher ups. And it can’t be Brandi. I personally think someone like Faye Jackson could fit that role. Mercedes could have. Yes, yes, and yes. Dustin is the current guy to talk to, and according to Kris Statlander, he thought a woman blading was almost unthinkable (when she has bladed multiple times in a short career). It is really striking that anyone talking about good experiences backstage is mentioning Kenny, Cody, Jericho, Dustin...but pointedly not any veteran women. I don't know that Deeb or Ivelisse is going to shift that balance any (with Ivelisse being someone who would merit almost no trust on locker room issues). It's a big reason I stan the idea of bringing in LuFisto, but that isn't happening soon for pandemic reasons alone.
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Post by Celgress on Oct 14, 2020 22:26:45 GMT -5
Hey, at least it wasn't as bad this week as it usually is, that's something, right?
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Oct 14, 2020 22:36:58 GMT -5
Hey, at least it wasn't as bad this week as it usually is, that's something, right? In some ways yes, in some ways no. On the one hand? The match was well booked with a good finishing stretch. On the other hand? The number two babyface of the division (who isn't injured or locked out of the country) getting her first shot at the title didn't merit so much as a video package or a promo or even an announcement on the previous week's show. As bad as the women's stuff was early on, there was electricity in the air for Statlander beating Shida and Nyla's second crack at Riho. I've abandoned any hope for any kind of reboot or positive direction change unless something truly drastic and tangible happens.
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Post by markymark on Oct 14, 2020 22:38:25 GMT -5
Shanna should return soon and feud with Britt.
Swole tried but she isnt ready yet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 5:19:33 GMT -5
Yeah, it's clear as day to me they have no interest in fixing this. It feels like the best you can ever get out of this division is, "You get a match that might make it to eight or nine minutes but will never reach ten and Britt Baker cuts a promo." Is what it did last night and it's what they did every week for months before it.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 15, 2020 7:00:50 GMT -5
Yeah, it's clear as day to me they have no interest in fixing this. It feels like the best you can ever get out of this division is, "You get a match that might make it to eight or nine minutes but will never reach ten and Britt Baker cuts a promo." Is what it did last night and it's what they did every week for months before it. Doesn't feel that way to me, that they don't want to fix it. It's odd though. Like nothing AEW has done has given me reason to feel like they're lying about something or are trying to throw fans off when something is obvious. A lot of people are saying they are passionate about the girls, Dustin training them, Omega booking them, trying to get them screen time, etc. But the execution on television has them stuck in some sort of holding pattern. The on the fly booking seems to have been a fine style for everything but the girls. Talent lockouts and injuries suck yes, but Shida is an ace champion, Britt is back and is quickly becoming an ace heel and Nyla is always there, you have Thunder Rosa now in your back pocket and what seems to be a very solid midcard in Abadon, Anna Jay, Brandi, Allie, Swole, Deeb, Diamante, Ford, and Ivelisse, with the undercard the likes of the AEW DARK Young Lionesses, Mel, Red Velvet, Reba, and Leva. With the potential of returns like Shanna to help fill out the roster more so. What I'm saying is, they have enough of a division to work with now, the matter is making more time for it. I feel like that second show would showcase the girls way more than what we're seeing now, but it's not here yet, and you gotta make time for them if it isn't. Like it's cool seeing like three women's matches on average an AEW DARK, but the fans are gonna notice more and more when the girls match is in the same spot every week when everything else on the card is always shifted around. If you can't give them more matches, give them segments, promos, interaction. It should not be hard to get like 4-5 minutes total for stuff like that sprinkled around the show. They say they are passionate, they say they wanna do it, they say they listen to the fans, so I'm really hoping that's put into practice soon, because AEW does so much stuff right, the last thing they want optics wise is for their women's division to start lagging way behind.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 8:08:18 GMT -5
Hey, at least it wasn't as bad this week as it usually is, that's something, right? Eh. When you have Jim Ross go "There IS a women's match, folks.", it comes off like the company forgets the division. It doesn't help that, as Lizuka said, there is a strict formula every week in which the one match may go long, but not too long, and the only woman who cuts a promo is Britt Baker. Not to mention the match often takes place right around the same time on the show before the main event, which usually allows people time to use the bathroom or grab a beverage, and is a "come down" spot. The division has plenty of talent, for sure, but besides Shida, Swole, Baker, and maybe Nyla Rose, they have absolutely no interest in giving any screentime or promos to anyone on that roster as they're either too green, too unknown, or too Mel. Like I said on last night's thread, there was a plan laid out for this division, but that went to hell once COVID happened and people rejected Britt Baker as a babyface, and ever since, they have reluctantly presented women's wrestling as a product. Some people may reject this idea that AEW has done something wrong and may be stubborn to fix it, but the overall presentation on Dynamite has done very little for me to change my attitude.
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Post by thewaykokid on Oct 15, 2020 8:15:56 GMT -5
I could see them making there new hour show all Women. They all be the first big promotion to do this. Let the women have there own show.
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Post by Hypnosis on Oct 15, 2020 8:27:38 GMT -5
Until I see more than one match announced regularly and Shida getting more promos/interviews on Dynamite, I can't expect the direction of the Women's division to change either.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 15, 2020 8:30:10 GMT -5
Hey, at least it wasn't as bad this week as it usually is, that's something, right? In some ways yes, in some ways no. On the one hand? The match was well booked with a good finishing stretch. On the other hand? The number two babyface of the division (who isn't injured or locked out of the country) getting her first shot at the title didn't merit so much as a video package or a promo or even an announcement on the previous week's show. As bad as the women's stuff was early on, there was electricity in the air for Statlander beating Shida and Nyla's second crack at Riho. I've abandoned any hope for any kind of reboot or positive direction change unless something truly drastic and tangible happens. Honestly if Swole is your second biggest babyface,things are bad. Not to knock on her too much since she is good,just not top 2 good. It does seem like they are trying,just not well enough. One solution would be giving the time used on Britt for the other gals.It seem Britt is the only woman that ever gets video segments.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Oct 15, 2020 8:46:32 GMT -5
Time isn't the only issue for this division. Booking of course is another, but also the talent gap.
It's not just that the talent isn't nearly at the same level as NXT or Impact, it's that the best of the division and the rest of the division currently has a huge gap in quality. Both in the ring and on the mic
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Post by Moppy on Oct 15, 2020 9:02:49 GMT -5
Eh, given the depth of the talent pool, especially right now, I'm less concerned about the number of weekly TV matches given to the women's division.
But, like, can you give your good women more interesting stuff to do?
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Post by Hypnosis on Oct 15, 2020 9:04:48 GMT -5
Time isn't the only issue for this division. Booking of course is another, but also the talent gap. It's not just that the talent isn't nearly at the same level as NXT or Impact, it's that the best of the division and the rest of the division currently has a huge gap in quality. Both in the ring and on the mic Swole can talk, and while the match with Shida wasn't as good as I hoped, Swole's not been given any promo time or character development on Dynamite since the Baker feud ended. Nyla's good on the mic, but I'd rather Shida not drop the title right back to her. Not sure what Abadon's mic skills are like, but she could be creative with her vignettes like Priscilla Kelly and Elayna Black are outside of AEW.
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Post by markymark on Oct 15, 2020 9:22:43 GMT -5
Time isn't the only issue for this division. Booking of course is another, but also the talent gap. It's not just that the talent isn't nearly at the same level as NXT or Impact, it's that the best of the division and the rest of the division currently has a huge gap in quality. Both in the ring and on the mic Swole can talk, and while the match with Shida wasn't as good as I hoped, Swole's not been given any promo time or character development on Dynamite since the Baker feud ended. Nyla's good on the mic, but I'd rather Shida not drop the title right back to her. Not sure what Abadon's mic skills are like, but she could be creative with her vignettes like Priscilla Kelly and Elayna Black are outside of AEW. Just saw that Abadon started her in ring career on Jan 2019. www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=22620&name=Abadon++
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Post by Celgress on Oct 15, 2020 9:45:28 GMT -5
The thing I'm most disappointed in is that Shida is the longest-reigning champion yet her reign feels like it doesn't mean a damn thing (because the division is treated as an afterthought).
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 15, 2020 9:45:39 GMT -5
I could see them making there new hour show all Women. They all be the first big promotion to do this. Let the women have there own show. That's a Double-Edged Sword. Even if you have enough women to sustain their own show, and are dedicating the proper time to them, it still looks like you're segregating them away from the men and not promoting them as a Main Draw for the company. Even with good intentions, it's bad optics.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 9:49:46 GMT -5
The thing I'm most disappointed in is that Shida is the longest-reigning champion yet her reign feels like it doesn't mean a damn thing (because the division is treated as an afterthought). :( Every title reign to date has sucked. Riho spent the whole of hers offscreen then became more of a regular immediately after losing the belt, Nyla didn't do anything (COVID being a big part of it granted but even when she was around nothing she did was memorable) and now Shida's doing nothing.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Oct 15, 2020 9:51:33 GMT -5
Time isn't the only issue for this division. Booking of course is another, but also the talent gap. It's not just that the talent isn't nearly at the same level as NXT or Impact, it's that the best of the division and the rest of the division currently has a huge gap in quality. Both in the ring and on the mic Swole can talk, and while the match with Shida wasn't as good as I hoped, Swole's not been given any promo time or character development on Dynamite since the Baker feud ended. Nyla's good on the mic, but I'd rather Shida not drop the title right back to her. Not sure what Abadon's mic skills are like, but she could be creative with her vignettes like Priscilla Kelly and Elayna Black are outside of AEW. Like, what I mean is, we know who the top in ring workers are: Shida, Deeb, Nyla, and when they come back, Kris and Shanna. But even compared to the next tier (Swole, Ivelisse, Britt, Ford, and Conti) there is a huge gap, nevermind the rookies or Allie/Brandi. On the mic, you have: Britt, Swole, Brandi, Nyla, and Vickie. Compared to them, the next tier (Ford, Allie... And I honestly don't know from there), there's still a big gap. Even with time, that's hard to work around.
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