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Post by The Prince That Was Promised on Oct 23, 2020 14:34:59 GMT -5
The problem with this though is that after Rosa, there is no one else on that level except for Tessa Blanchard. It would be very underwhelming to come off of the Rosa/Shida match just to get Shida/Melina for example. Britt is the next logical step and she is in a holding pattern until then. With Britt's promo ability and drastic improvement in the ring, that'll be the feud to get their women's division going in the right direction. Ivelisse, Diamante, Lil Swole, Rachel Ellering just to name a few who could've challenged her. Ah I thought you meant women from outside of AEW. Yeah La Sicaria would have been great. Or Tay Conti.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 23, 2020 14:55:34 GMT -5
The problem with this though is that after Rosa, there is no one else on that level except for Tessa Blanchard. It would be very underwhelming to come off of the Rosa/Shida match just to get Shida/Melina for example. Britt is the next logical step and she is in a holding pattern until then. With Britt's promo ability and drastic improvement in the ring, that'll be the feud to get their women's division going in the right direction. Ivelisse, Diamante, Lil Swole, Rachel Ellering just to name a few who could've challenged her. She did face Diamante, as for Ellering and Savoy, maybe? But frankly when it comes to the girls if they can't get Indy surprises I wouldn't want girls like Ellering and Savoy coming in and catching quick L's to the champ if they were to actually be signed.
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Post by polarbearpete on Oct 23, 2020 14:58:01 GMT -5
Ivelisse, Diamante, Lil Swole, Rachel Ellering just to name a few who could've challenged her. She did face Diamante, as for Ellering and Savoy, maybe? But frankly when it comes to the girls if they can't get Indy surprises I wouldn't want girls like Ellering and Savoy coming in and catching quick L's to the champ if they were to actually be signed. Why not, when the alternative is none of them ever get featured on Dynamite and just one women’s segment every episode? Who said it has to be quick Ls too, give them long back and forths with Shida like Cody has gotten numerous times for his TNT defenses.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 23, 2020 15:01:02 GMT -5
She did face Diamante, as for Ellering and Savoy, maybe? But frankly when it comes to the girls if they can't get Indy surprises I wouldn't want girls like Ellering and Savoy coming in and catching quick L's to the champ if they were to actually be signed. Why not, when the alternative is none of them ever get featured on Dynamite and just one women’s segment every episode? Who said it has to be quick Ls too, give them long back and forths with Shida like Cody has gotten numerous times for his TNT defenses. I guess Cody just had the benefit of more depth to play with when it came to challenges both on roster and Indy wise I'm not saying they shouldn't have given Shida more of an open challenge aspect, I'm just curious why Shida hasn't been used much period. I speculated she might not do well in the Florida humidity, but she is the champ she definitely needs to be showcased more, or crown a new champion...
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Post by Shark on Oct 23, 2020 15:38:17 GMT -5
NXT's women's division is just more stacked and has more names to it to get some of the stats that it does. Yes AEW needs to build the division but they came in with a division without many known names, and then they lost one of their biggest stars in Riho and rising stars in Statlander until next year probably. Shida, Nyla, Baker, and Rosa are a good top core, Ivelisse, Diamante, Swole, Jay, Brandi, Ford, Abadon, Conti, Deeb, Shanna (maybe soon?) are a good mid to upper core, and they have a TON of young developmental, that's their biggest upside right now They would be best served to sign some more girls yes, but it's hard to compare two women's divisions where one is still trying to find its identity vs a division that has quite possibly the best women's wrestler in the world in Io Shirai at the helm of it and insane developed depth, especially in comparison to the main roster. The AEW girls can find themselves with time and a concerted effort, the NXT girls are already there and will continue to be there until Vince tries to pluck them away... I think looking at some parts of that graph are telling though. Like NXT's women main eventing 11 times compared to 0 for AEW or NXT having 41 shows with more than 1 women's match on it compared to only 2 times for AEW. Or NXT nearly doubling AEW's match time. It's not really about the roster. It's about the time dedicated to them. NXT dedicates time to the women and AEW get almost literally half that time. The article also takes aim, not being vindictive, at Brandi's words about AEW being where women were going to be treated better than any other company and that hasn't really been true. One can easily argue, NXT, WWE, and Impact have all been better over this past year.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 15:39:34 GMT -5
She said she going to take a cue from Cody and do an open challenge from anyone in the world and yet Thunder Rosa was the only one that happened of it.
No reason they couldn't have done that.
The problem with this though is that after Rosa, there is no one else on that level except for Tessa Blanchard. It would be very underwhelming to come off of the Rosa/Shida match just to get Shida/Melina for example. Melina as in Melina Perez? I don't see how that would be underwhelming. She was a big star and can still go. She'd probably get a huge reaction if she showed up (if there were fans obviously).
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Post by The Prince That Was Promised on Oct 23, 2020 15:46:54 GMT -5
The problem with this though is that after Rosa, there is no one else on that level except for Tessa Blanchard. It would be very underwhelming to come off of the Rosa/Shida match just to get Shida/Melina for example. Melina as in Melina Perez? I don't see how that would be underwhelming. She was a big star and can still go. She'd probably get a huge reaction if she showed up (if there were fans obviously). To be honest I haven’t seen too much from her lately but I don’t really get the impression that she is doing much like a Rosa, Tessa, Valkyrie, or Deona Purazzo etc. If she’s been killing it though then I stand corrected.
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Post by markymark on Oct 23, 2020 20:03:05 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Ended up at the hospital. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Thanks, f***in hell man I love Tay Conti hopefully she's ok. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Observer just said it was Abadon the one who got injured
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Post by The Prince That Was Promised on Oct 23, 2020 21:01:04 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}
Thanks, f***in hell man I love Tay Conti hopefully she's ok. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Observer just said it was Abadon the one who got injured {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Well I'm glad it wasn't Tay but I still wish Abadon a speedy recovery.
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Post by markymark on Oct 27, 2020 13:53:12 GMT -5
I miss the Joshis, Maki is definitely someone they should bring, her weird charisma should definitely connect with the audience.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Oct 27, 2020 14:30:05 GMT -5
I miss the Joshis, Maki is definitely someone they should bring, her weird charisma should definitely connect with the audience. All the Joshi's have pretty much connected with the audience. It's why Shida not being used really perplexes me
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Oct 27, 2020 14:35:23 GMT -5
I miss the Joshis, Maki is definitely someone they should bring, her weird charisma should definitely connect with the audience. All the Joshi's have pretty much connected with the audience. It's why Shida not being used really perplexes me Shida had the least gimmick out of all of them, and I get the vibe that they really don't have a good idea how to develop her while she works to get her English up to promo giving levels. ...but then, they have also not given her interesting in-ring stories or a long enough string of challengers to really do the fighting champion thing that she could be doing (and doing well, with how good she is at selling her challengers' strong suits and characters), so it keeps coming down to the 1. rock bottom priority level assigned to all things women's wrestling and 2. a lack of care in developing actual stories (in-ring or out) for the women.
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Post by darbus alan on Oct 27, 2020 14:58:02 GMT -5
I don't get why they don't just do with Shida what they did with Riho. Give her pretaped vignettes. Even if her English isn't great, they can easily do Japanese with English subtitles. I'd much rather see Shida do a pre-taped vignette than Darby Allin play out his Jackass fantasies.
Like, say what you will about Riho and Nyla's match to crown the inaugural champion, but at least they had a solid build-up. Nyla was the monster heel who despite her size advantage, had a lot to prove to herself and to a lot of other people. Riho was the sympathetic face who played up being the classic underdog.
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Post by chrom on Oct 27, 2020 15:07:58 GMT -5
No reason Shida could not have had a interpreter or subtitles in prerecorded videos while she works on learning english. Thankfully she's got a match tonight instead of just being ignored.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Oct 27, 2020 15:14:22 GMT -5
I don't get why they don't just do with Shida what they did with Riho. Give her pretaped vignettes. Even if her English isn't great, they can easily do Japanese with English subtitles. I'd much rather see Shida do a pre-taped vignette than Darby Allin play out his Jackass fantasies. Like, say what you will about Riho and Nyla's match to crown the inaugural champion, but at least they had a solid build-up. Nyla was the monster heel who despite her size advantage, had a lot to prove to herself and to a lot of other people. Riho was the sympathetic face who played up being the classic underdog. Don’t give them weird ideas, we might wind up with Riho and Shida racing in shopping carts with Johnny Knoxville down the Jacksonville highways.
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Post by markymark on Oct 27, 2020 15:18:08 GMT -5
I miss the Joshis, Maki is definitely someone they should bring, her weird charisma should definitely connect with the audience. All the Joshi's have pretty much connected with the audience. It's why Shida not being used really perplexes me Except Emi Sakura, quite lot of people disliked her gimmick.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Oct 27, 2020 16:35:52 GMT -5
All the Joshi's have pretty much connected with the audience. It's why Shida not being used really perplexes me Except Emi Sakura, quite lot of people disliked her gimmick. Really? I didn’t see anything particularly objectionable about it. It was a tribute to a famous rock star.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 27, 2020 16:45:01 GMT -5
I don't get why they don't just do with Shida what they did with Riho. Give her pretaped vignettes. Even if her English isn't great, they can easily do Japanese with English subtitles. I'd much rather see Shida do a pre-taped vignette than Darby Allin play out his Jackass fantasies. Like, say what you will about Riho and Nyla's match to crown the inaugural champion, but at least they had a solid build-up. Nyla was the monster heel who despite her size advantage, had a lot to prove to herself and to a lot of other people. Riho was the sympathetic face who played up being the classic underdog. Don’t give them weird ideas, we might wind up with Riho and Shida racing in shopping carts with Johnny Knoxville down the Jacksonville highways. You say that liek it is a bad idea!I WANNA SEE IT NOW!
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Post by Dub H on Oct 27, 2020 16:45:29 GMT -5
Except Emi Sakura, quite lot of people disliked her gimmick. Really? I didn’t see anything particularly objectionable about it. It was a tribute to a famous rock star. I think most people that complained just thought it didnt fit a heel role.
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Post by Hypnosis on Oct 27, 2020 16:53:07 GMT -5
I don't get why they don't just do with Shida what they did with Riho. Give her pretaped vignettes. Even if her English isn't great, they can easily do Japanese with English subtitles. I'd much rather see Shida do a pre-taped vignette than Darby Allin play out his Jackass fantasies. Like, say what you will about Riho and Nyla's match to crown the inaugural champion, but at least they had a solid build-up. Nyla was the monster heel who despite her size advantage, had a lot to prove to herself and to a lot of other people. Riho was the sympathetic face who played up being the classic underdog. This is an idea of what AEW should be doing with Shida's character on Dynamite:
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