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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 28, 2020 4:23:19 GMT -5
I don't get why they don't just do with Shida what they did with Riho. Give her pretaped vignettes. Even if her English isn't great, they can easily do Japanese with English subtitles. I'd much rather see Shida do a pre-taped vignette than Darby Allin play out his Jackass fantasies. Like, say what you will about Riho and Nyla's match to crown the inaugural champion, but at least they had a solid build-up. Nyla was the monster heel who despite her size advantage, had a lot to prove to herself and to a lot of other people. Riho was the sympathetic face who played up being the classic underdog. Or just think outside the box With NXT, when they do stuff with Io it fits his character is a crazy and weird way. She speaks Japanese in a way that emphasizes her craziness while they keep her English promos short and sweet like the one she with Halloween Havoc "Biker chain match, I beat Candice" They can do more to emphasize Shida fighting spirit. Show her training regiment. What's her basic motivation? Stuff that can be easily answered in a 30 second vignette It's odd because AEW used to do subtitled Shida promos and subtitled Riho promos. This was never an issue before, so I don't even know why it would be an issue now. As you said, she doesn't even need to do much, she sold that Nyla feud and the match with Rosa without saying much as all. She's good at this wrestling thing, she's an ace for them for a reason.
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Post by markymark on Oct 28, 2020 7:43:25 GMT -5
Like I said in the other thread, iirc Rosa wanted a big paycheck(like paid like the top guys in AEW) with also becoming a trainer and maybe part of creative.
Feels like the whole Ivelisse incident mightve changed her mind about not going to WWE.
Pretty much says it all that Tessa is still a free agent, if Rosa goes to WWE I could see some people from management trying to persuade TK in getting her even if she is a PR nightmare(unless Tully can help her get her head straight)
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Post by dpg on Oct 28, 2020 12:57:43 GMT -5
Like I said in the other thread, iirc Rosa wanted a big paycheck(like paid like the top guys in AEW) with also becoming a trainer and maybe part of creative. Feels like the whole Ivelisse incident mightve changed her mind about not going to WWE. Pretty much says it all that Tessa is still a free agent, if Rosa goes to WWE I could see some people from management trying to persuade TK in getting her even if she is a PR nightmare(unless Tully can help her get her head straight) Tessa is very talented, but she's acting like she's already a big name. Whatever happened with Impact wasn't good, and has increased her rep for being difficult backstage. She'll sign with someone, work hard, be 'humble', then start acting up when she doesn't get her way.
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Post by chrom on Oct 28, 2020 12:59:10 GMT -5
There's a NWA Women's Title match tonight on Dynamite, should hopefully be good
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Post by chrom on Oct 28, 2020 14:14:47 GMT -5
If not for the pandemic this year a name I would've suggested is Giselle Shaw the current Women's champ in RPW
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 28, 2020 18:49:16 GMT -5
If not for the pandemic this year a name I would've suggested is Giselle Shaw the current Women's champ in RPW Gisele is f***ing money. Also if it's possible, AEW, please sign Killer Kelly. She is great.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 28, 2020 21:44:38 GMT -5
If Deeb/Hirsch was always planned, I actually wonder if we would have had two matches this week with the girls, Conti and Abadon could have had a shorter match if Abadon hadn't had a freak injury, and Deeb/Hirsch could have wrestled later
I don't know, they definitely filled time with the Spears segment for Abadon/Conti, I just wonder if we missed out on a two women's matches card, which is unfortunate
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Oct 28, 2020 21:48:48 GMT -5
I will fight you Nyla. There you go, that's your damn build for next weeks ppv
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Post by Shark on Oct 28, 2020 21:57:35 GMT -5
Per Meltzer, both AEW and WWE are gonna make pitches to sign Rosa. So I guess hold onto your hats for how that turns out. Here's hoping she goes to AEW, who have already given her a lot, including a mainstay match on a PPV. She'd be an ace there without any doubt. I honestly don't think Rosa goes to WWE. She's already familiar with AEW, clearly likes them, I think she sees the potential there. Unless it's money that is just astronomical, which I don't see WWE offering, Thunder Rosa is All Elite.
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Post by chrom on Oct 28, 2020 22:00:53 GMT -5
Yeah the Spears match was just out there to fill up time due to the Abadon injury as there would've been two women's matches tonight. It sounds though she'll be back soon.
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Post by chrom on Oct 28, 2020 22:01:35 GMT -5
Per Meltzer, both AEW and WWE are gonna make pitches to sign Rosa. So I guess hold onto your hats for how that turns out. Here's hoping she goes to AEW, who have already given her a lot, including a mainstay match on a PPV. She'd be an ace there without any doubt. I honestly don't think Rosa goes to WWE. She's already familiar with AEW, clearly likes them, I think she sees the potential there. Unless it's money that is just astronomical, which I don't see WWE offering, Thunder Rosa is All Elite. Apparently the incident with Ivelisse soured her a bit reports say.
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Post by markymark on Oct 28, 2020 22:25:05 GMT -5
I really believe Tay vs Abadon wouldve been around 10 mins long, add also Abadon getting a special entrance for Halloween.
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Post by Shark on Oct 28, 2020 23:03:31 GMT -5
I honestly don't think Rosa goes to WWE. She's already familiar with AEW, clearly likes them, I think she sees the potential there. Unless it's money that is just astronomical, which I don't see WWE offering, Thunder Rosa is All Elite. Apparently the incident with Ivelisse soured her a bit reports say. I'd still be shocked honestly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 23:08:04 GMT -5
If Deeb/Hirsch was always planned, I actually wonder if we would have had two matches this week with the girls, Conti and Abadon could have had a shorter match if Abadon hadn't had a freak injury, and Deeb/Hirsch could have wrestled later I don't know, they definitely filled time with the Spears segment for Abadon/Conti, I just wonder if we missed out on a two women's matches card, which is unfortunate She had the NWA title with her. That would have made it to the spoilers for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 23:13:41 GMT -5
I will fight you Nyla. There you go, that's your damn build for next weeks ppv Shida is one of my favorites in AEW and I really feel shes in par with the best woman’s wrestlers in the planet. Then you see the 10 minute over run mainevent on NXT. It’s just disheartening when shida is in a 20 second backstage promo pretty much saying “oh yeah you called me out two months ago... okay I guess” no wonder this thread is 35+ pages long and they might lose their big free agent signing to WWE.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 28, 2020 23:19:13 GMT -5
If Deeb/Hirsch was always planned, I actually wonder if we would have had two matches this week with the girls, Conti and Abadon could have had a shorter match if Abadon hadn't had a freak injury, and Deeb/Hirsch could have wrestled later I don't know, they definitely filled time with the Spears segment for Abadon/Conti, I just wonder if we missed out on a two women's matches card, which is unfortunate She had the NWA title with her. That would have made it to the spoilers for sure. Not if they made fans sign a waiver or something, this was a joint company thing. I have no way of knowing but I was just saying it was possible
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 28, 2020 23:25:42 GMT -5
I honestly don't think Rosa goes to WWE. She's already familiar with AEW, clearly likes them, I think she sees the potential there. Unless it's money that is just astronomical, which I don't see WWE offering, Thunder Rosa is All Elite. Apparently the incident with Ivelisse soured her a bit reports say. They worked a fine match after that though. If there was any real heat that wouldn't have happened imo. Really it felt like that entire situation was overblown. I would hope so in Ivelisse's case because if that was the defining reason Rosa would choose WWE over AEW she would have some real big heat backstage. I still think the needle leans towards AEW for Rosa, I think Khan is gonna make her the top paid woman in the company to get her, if he likes her as much as it seems he does. I also really think Mission Pro is gonna be a factor and AEW have already worked with her and let their talent work her shows.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Oct 28, 2020 23:29:32 GMT -5
I will fight you Nyla. There you go, that's your damn build for next weeks ppv Shida is one of my favorites in AEW and I really feel shes in par with the best woman’s wrestlers in the planet. Then you see the 10 minute over run mainevent on NXT. It’s just disheartening when shida is in a 20 second backstage promo pretty much saying “oh yeah you called me out two months ago... okay I guess” no wonder this thread is 35+ pages long and they might lose their big free agent signing to WWE. Yep same. I am not bitching abut this every week because I think it's fun to do so, I am just super frustrated. Especially, like you said, when I see just how great the nxt women are booked. Imagine if Jon Moxley was booked like this? Cody? FTR? All I can do is imagine because it would never happen. And it's doubly frustrating to me because it's goddamn Hikaru Shida. Probably my favourite wrestler in all of AEW.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 28, 2020 23:32:37 GMT -5
Shida is one of my favorites in AEW and I really feel shes in par with the best woman’s wrestlers in the planet. Then you see the 10 minute over run mainevent on NXT. It’s just disheartening when shida is in a 20 second backstage promo pretty much saying “oh yeah you called me out two months ago... okay I guess” no wonder this thread is 35+ pages long and they might lose their big free agent signing to WWE. Yep same. I am not bitching abut this every week because I think it's fun to do so, I am just super frustrated. Especially, like you said, when I see just how great the nxt women are booked. Imagine if Jon Moxley was booked like this? Cody? FTR? All I can do is imagine because it would never happen. And it's doubly frustrating to me because it's goddamn Hikaru Shida. Probably my favourite wrestler in all of AEW. They really need to work segments into every week, then they don't have this problem. Have Nyla dodging matches, taking fines, hell even taking a countout loss or a forefit to someone because she is under protest to fight Shida and is sick of Shida dodging her. Meanwhile have Shida, even if it's on DARK, having matches with Hirsch and such because she's the fighting champion taking on all comers, and have Nyla just staring her down ringside and trying to her her to notice her. It's really not hard. If this is Kenny still leading the booking for the girls on the show I think we've more than seen enough and he needs to give more control to the likes of Dustin, hell even Rosa if she signs. I like Kenny, it's evident the women like him too from interviews and I'm sure he is trying, but it's pretty clear when the Joshi got locked out of the US his passion for booking this division died a death and the longer that's gone on the worse it's gotten. The on the fly booking is working for the men, it's not for the women, they need structure and a direction because fans have definitely tired of this approach.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Oct 29, 2020 0:07:34 GMT -5
Yep same. I am not bitching abut this every week because I think it's fun to do so, I am just super frustrated. Especially, like you said, when I see just how great the nxt women are booked. Imagine if Jon Moxley was booked like this? Cody? FTR? All I can do is imagine because it would never happen. And it's doubly frustrating to me because it's goddamn Hikaru Shida. Probably my favourite wrestler in all of AEW. They really need to work segments into every week, then they don't have this problem. Have Nyla dodging matches, taking fines, hell even taking a countout loss or a forefit to someone because she is under protest to fight Shida and is sick of Shida dodging her. Meanwhile have Shida, even if it's on DARK, having matches with Hirsch and such because she's the fighting champion taking on all comers, and have Nyla just staring her down ringside and trying to her her to notice her. It's really not hard. If this is Kenny still leading the booking for the girls on the show I think we've more than seen enough and he needs to give more control to the likes of Dustin, hell even Rosa if she signs. I like Kenny, it's evident the women like him too from interviews and I'm sure he is trying, but it's pretty clear when the Joshi got locked out of the US his passion for booking this division died a death and the longer that's gone on the worse it's gotten. The on the fly booking is working for the men, it's not for the women, they need structure and a direction because fans have definitely tired of this approach. Nyla has such great presence too. I really don't get why she vanised. If this was the match all along and it seemingly was, just pepper some promos and vignette's through out the show. Similar to how they do Mox feuds. Maybe a squash here and there. It really doesn't even take much time, just a bit of effort is all.
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