AEW Women's Division Discussion

[markymark]

[toodarkmark]

Jan 27, 2021 22:41:43 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Jan 27, 2021 22:32:28 GMT -5 toodarkmark said:

Other then how the graphic is, has anyone said, or has it been shown, that this is an "American" and "Japanese" side or brackets? I don't remember seeing that. It very much could just be talent from the United States and Japan. Like Deeb is America and Riho is Japan. America versus Japan in every match in the first round. But I could be wrong if someone has seen it being stated there is actually a Japanese and American round.

Excalibur said Deeb/Riho is "On the US Side of the bracket" tonight

Sweet! Thanks CJB01.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Jan 27, 2021 22:44:11 GMT -5 markymark said:

Ok so Shida hasn't been on Dynamite lately because she has a large hand in producing this, I wonder if that means she has a large role in producing the Japan side of the bracket too

Also if she's resting an ankle injury, probably for the best. This Tourney will be centered around her in the end 

[toodarkmark]

[Mozenrath]

Heh, it's going to be great seeing Emi back in the mix.

I do wonder a bit if, with Riho returning, if she's going to be effected any by the return of the Cleaner. Kenny and Riho's connection hasn't been a secret by any stretch of the imagination, so if she ends up turning heel, that could be fun.

Of course, she has plenty to do as a face, too, if they don't turn her. She has beef with Nyla and Ford she could always return to, or Britt for that matter.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Jan 28, 2021 0:41:28 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

Heh, it's going to be great seeing Emi back in the mix.

I do wonder a bit if, with Riho returning, if she's going to be effected any by the return of the Cleaner. Kenny and Riho's connection hasn't been a secret by any stretch of the imagination, so if she ends up turning heel, that could be fun.

Of course, she has plenty to do as a face, too, if they don't turn her. She has beef with Nyla and Ford she could always return to, or Britt for that matter.

I still wanna see Yuka kick Britt's ass...

[Fade]

Jan 27, 2021 22:30:03 GMT -5 toodarkmark said:

Jan 27, 2021 22:06:17 GMT -5 Fade said:

I know it’s been brought up before but compared to when she first started, Britt’s gotten into great shape.

I'm obsessed with how much she's gotten better. Every aspect of her. I know she struggled with confidence when AEW first started, but every aspect of her is now just a star. I enjoyed her match with Shanna almost as much any match I've seen all year. I can't wait for her versus Rosa.

Yeah. While watching Dynamite last night it just kind of dawned on me “Britt is literally one of AEW’s premier characters”. Her progress in every aspect is admirable.

[Dub H]

I honestly think people overrate Britt a little,she is not bad but she is far from being one of the best in the roster.

Even when comparing progress she cant compare to Tay and Anna,which I feel are slight better than her now

[The Captain]

Interesting that Shida is wearing a producer's hat for this. Maybe she was also involved in getting things coordinated for the Japanese side of things?

[Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby]

Jan 28, 2021 14:10:44 GMT -5 Dub H said:

I honestly think people overrate Britt a little,she is not bad but she is far from being one of the best in the roster.

Even when comparing progress she cant compare to Tay and Anna,which I feel are slight better than her now

Tay yes, because she is quickly turning out to be a brilliant scholar of wrestling - they could absolutely build around her as a top face if her heel competition was deep enough. Anna I disagree on - I feel like she gets overrated because of how good she got in how little time, when she is still rough around the edges in places. (Frankly, I'd put her behind KiLynn King in pure ring work - Anna having the Dark Order to develop her personality is what has really made her.) Britt, on the other hand, has been excellent since coming back from injury - combine that with a gimmick and manager that are working, as well as psychology that was always sound even when her execution was awkward in 2019, and she's definitely ready to carry the division if they put the title on her.

[The Captain]

With Britt it was all in her head. Once she got her confidence back, it made a huge difference in both her ring work and her character work.

In ring, I wouldn't put her on the same tier as Shida or Riho, bur I think she's easily their best character worker among the women. She's on that next level below them for wrestling, which is more than good enough to make her a star.

[holyshida]

Jan 28, 2021 14:27:55 GMT -5 Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby said:

Jan 28, 2021 14:10:44 GMT -5 Dub H said:

I honestly think people overrate Britt a little,she is not bad but she is far from being one of the best in the roster.

Even when comparing progress she cant compare to Tay and Anna,which I feel are slight better than her now

Tay yes, because she is quickly turning out to be a brilliant scholar of wrestling - they could absolutely build around her as a top face if her heel competition was deep enough. Anna I disagree on - I feel like she gets overrated because of how good she got in how little time, when she is still rough around the edges in places. (Frankly, I'd put her behind KiLynn King in pure ring work - Anna having the Dark Order to develop her personality is what has really made her.) Britt, on the other hand, has been excellent since coming back from injury - combine that with a gimmick and manager that are working, as well as psychology that was always sound even when her execution was awkward in 2019, and she's definitely ready to carry the division if they put the title on her.

Anna Jay completely outshone Britt in that tag team match a few weeks ago. In fact out of the 4 Women in the match Britt was the least impressive.

[Dub H]

Jan 28, 2021 14:27:55 GMT -5 Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby said:

Jan 28, 2021 14:10:44 GMT -5 Dub H said:

I honestly think people overrate Britt a little,she is not bad but she is far from being one of the best in the roster.

Even when comparing progress she cant compare to Tay and Anna,which I feel are slight better than her now

Tay yes, because she is quickly turning out to be a brilliant scholar of wrestling - they could absolutely build around her as a top face if her heel competition was deep enough. Anna I disagree on - I feel like she gets overrated because of how good she got in how little time, when she is still rough around the edges in places. (Frankly, I'd put her behind KiLynn King in pure ring work - Anna having the Dark Order to develop her personality is what has really made her.) Britt, on the other hand, has been excellent since coming back from injury - combine that with a gimmick and manager that are working, as well as psychology that was always sound even when her execution was awkward in 2019, and she's definitely ready to carry the division if they put the title on her.

B4itt is still easily the worst in ring of the top woman in AEW and even some of the middle card.Ignoring the obvious ones like Mel is would put her above Swole only.

Britt benefits a lot of getting A LOT of tv time to develop her over the top character ,something none of the other girls did, and it is an entertaining character,just kinda one note.
It is kinda like the miz ,it isnt bad,just feels like I saw the same a thousand times already,maybe it is because of the overexposure

[Viking Hall]

Jan 28, 2021 16:15:46 GMT -5 Dub H said:

Jan 28, 2021 14:27:55 GMT -5 Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby said:

Tay yes, because she is quickly turning out to be a brilliant scholar of wrestling - they could absolutely build around her as a top face if her heel competition was deep enough. Anna I disagree on - I feel like she gets overrated because of how good she got in how little time, when she is still rough around the edges in places. (Frankly, I'd put her behind KiLynn King in pure ring work - Anna having the Dark Order to develop her personality is what has really made her.) Britt, on the other hand, has been excellent since coming back from injury - combine that with a gimmick and manager that are working, as well as psychology that was always sound even when her execution was awkward in 2019, and she's definitely ready to carry the division if they put the title on her.

B4itt is still easily the worst in ring of the top woman in AEW and even some of the middle card.Ignoring the obvious ones like Mel is would put her above Swole only.

Britt benefits a lot of getting A LOT of tv time to develop her over the top character ,something none of the other girls did, and it is an entertaining character,just kinda one note.
It is kinda like the miz ,it isnt bad,just feels like I saw the same a thousand times already,maybe it is because of the overexposure

Britt WAS easily one of the worst in the ring but since she came back from injury she's been pretty smooth and pretty inventive tbh. The extra bit of muscle she's gained has helped give her a lot more impact as well.

And this is from someone who didn't even want her on my screen pre-turn.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Jan 28, 2021 16:15:46 GMT -5 Dub H said:

Jan 28, 2021 14:27:55 GMT -5 Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby said:

Tay yes, because she is quickly turning out to be a brilliant scholar of wrestling - they could absolutely build around her as a top face if her heel competition was deep enough. Anna I disagree on - I feel like she gets overrated because of how good she got in how little time, when she is still rough around the edges in places. (Frankly, I'd put her behind KiLynn King in pure ring work - Anna having the Dark Order to develop her personality is what has really made her.) Britt, on the other hand, has been excellent since coming back from injury - combine that with a gimmick and manager that are working, as well as psychology that was always sound even when her execution was awkward in 2019, and she's definitely ready to carry the division if they put the title on her.

B4itt is still easily the worst in ring of the top woman in AEW and even some of the middle card.Ignoring the obvious ones like Mel is would put her above Swole only.

Britt benefits a lot of getting A LOT of tv time to develop her over the top character ,something none of the other girls did, and it is an entertaining character,just kinda one note.
It is kinda like the miz ,it isnt bad,just feels like I saw the same a thousand times already,maybe it is because of the overexposure

We're watching two different Britt Baker's at this point if this is your take on her. She's not Shida out there but she is absolutely one of their best workers at this point, she has come such a long way from where she used to be. And her character work's some of the best on the show. 

[Mozenrath]

Jan 28, 2021 14:44:15 GMT -5 holyshida said:

Jan 28, 2021 14:27:55 GMT -5 Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby said:

Tay yes, because she is quickly turning out to be a brilliant scholar of wrestling - they could absolutely build around her as a top face if her heel competition was deep enough. Anna I disagree on - I feel like she gets overrated because of how good she got in how little time, when she is still rough around the edges in places. (Frankly, I'd put her behind KiLynn King in pure ring work - Anna having the Dark Order to develop her personality is what has really made her.) Britt, on the other hand, has been excellent since coming back from injury - combine that with a gimmick and manager that are working, as well as psychology that was always sound even when her execution was awkward in 2019, and she's definitely ready to carry the division if they put the title on her.

Anna Jay completely outshone Britt in that tag team match a few weeks ago. In fact out of the 4 Women in the match Britt was the least impressive.

At the risk of sounding rude, well, yeah. The match was intended to put the shine on Anna Jay, especially. That was the express purpose of the match. It wasn't about Britt, who also needed to cut a promo after the match for her Rosa feud.

[holyshida]

Jan 28, 2021 20:44:15 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

Jan 28, 2021 14:44:15 GMT -5 holyshida said:

Anna Jay completely outshone Britt in that tag team match a few weeks ago. In fact out of the 4 Women in the match Britt was the least impressive.

At the risk of sounding rude, well, yeah. The match was intended to put the shine on Anna Jay, especially. That was the express purpose of the match. It wasn't about Britt, who also needed to cut a promo after the match for her Rosa feud.

Yeah the match was intended to put Anna Jay over strong. That said she's stole the show in nearly every match she's had so far in AEW. I just think she has a much higher ceiling that Britt Baker overall.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Jan 28, 2021 21:23:04 GMT -5 holyshida said:

Jan 28, 2021 20:44:15 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

At the risk of sounding rude, well, yeah. The match was intended to put the shine on Anna Jay, especially. That was the express purpose of the match. It wasn't about Britt, who also needed to cut a promo after the match for her Rosa feud.

Yeah the match was intended to put Anna Jay over strong. That said she's stole the show in nearly every match she's had so far in AEW. I just think she has a much higher ceiling that Britt Baker overall.

Why is it a competition? Why does Anna have to have a "Higher Ceiling"? Why can't they both just be good, which they are?

I don't understand having to rank Anna over Britt, honestly I don't get why people feel the need to push Baker down at this point when she has more than proven her spot in the division, and so has Anna.

I said it awhile ago in this thread, people want the women's division to improve but then go "No not Baker, this one", how about Baker AND this one, and that one too? That's where we're getting, and the division will be all the better for it really. Baker is the type of character faces need t bounce off of, she is currently extremely valuable to the division IMO for this very reason, where Anna is valuable for how she could be as a face and the upside of how young she is. There are layers to this that I feel some overlook.

[holyshida]

Jan 28, 2021 23:24:50 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Jan 28, 2021 21:23:04 GMT -5 holyshida said:

Yeah the match was intended to put Anna Jay over strong. That said she's stole the show in nearly every match she's had so far in AEW. I just think she has a much higher ceiling that Britt Baker overall.

Why is it a competition? Why does Anna have to have a "Higher Ceiling"? Why can't they both just be good, which they are?

I don't understand having to rank Anna over Britt, honestly I don't get why people feel the need to push Baker down at this point when she has more than proven her spot in the division, and so has Anna.

I said it awhile ago in this thread, people want the women's division to improve but then go "No not Baker, this one", how about Baker AND this one, and that one too? That's where we're getting, and the division will be all the better for it really. Baker is the type of character faces need t bounce off of, she is currently extremely valuable to the division IMO for this very reason, where Anna is valuable for how she could be as a face and the upside of how young she is. There are layers to this that I feel some overlook.

I just think people overrate Britt a lot, and I'm just giving my opinion that I think all 3 women in that match looked better than Britt and Shanna did last night as well.

Of course you're going to have people with higher ceilings than others, otherwise you'll get some folk not reaching their potential if you lump them all in the same category. By higher ceiling I mean I think her potential is much greater and that she'll be a bigger star than Britt and better in the ring as well as a better overall performer. There's nothing wrong with thinking that,and you shouldn't be shaming me for having this opinion.

I don't by any means think Britt is bad, in fact I think she's actually improving, but I'm honestly sick of some people (not you) saying she's some sort of 2nd coming of Christ

[Dub H]

Jan 28, 2021 20:32:09 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Jan 28, 2021 16:15:46 GMT -5 Dub H said:

B4itt is still easily the worst in ring of the top woman in AEW and even some of the middle card.Ignoring the obvious ones like Mel is would put her above Swole only.

Britt benefits a lot of getting A LOT of tv time to develop her over the top character ,something none of the other girls did, and it is an entertaining character,just kinda one note.
It is kinda like the miz ,it isnt bad,just feels like I saw the same a thousand times already,maybe it is because of the overexposure

We're watching two different Britt Baker's at this point if this is your take on her. She's not Shida out there but she is absolutely one of their best workers at this point, she has come such a long way from where she used to be. And her character work's some of the best on the show. 

Then we are,because I constantly think britt mades are good but the other ones are having great or unique matches.

She is definitely tiers below Shida,Deebs and Rosa.Which is not bad.