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Post by sungod2020 on Nov 17, 2021 20:52:22 GMT -5
Inspired by the other fun Survivor Series threads that have been popping up lately. Who are some of the worst Survivor Series partners? There are the obvious ones like Bad News Brown, but what about someone like Hacksaw Jim Duggan? He gets counted out in 1987. He gets himself disqualified in 1988 leaving Jake Roberts alone against four other guys including Andre the Giant. Then he gets disqualified AGAIN in 1990 and squanders his teams advantage. He even acts shocked when it happens. You should know by now you can't hit people with the 2x4!! You would have to be a fool to try and recruit Jim Duggan for your Survivor Series team. Also, why would anyone pick the Bushwhackers? They don't seem to follow directions very well and then they get eliminated with ease. May as well start the match down two. But on the other hand, the Whackers eliminated people pretty quickly before going down themselves. (Rougeaus in 1989, Orient Express in 1990) They also survived on Team Doink(along with Men on a Mission, all of them dressed as Doinks), pulling a clean sweep even.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2021 21:23:03 GMT -5
Mike Knox got eliminated instantly in the Team DX vs Team Rated RKO match. Can we argue this summed up the entire wrestling career of Mike Knox? It's not like his life got any better once he came back with a bushier beard in 2008.
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Post by fg on Nov 17, 2021 22:04:40 GMT -5
Mike Knox got eliminated instantly in the Team DX vs Team Rated RKO match. Can we argue this summed up the entire wrestling career of Mike Knox? It's not like his life got any better once he came back with a bushier beard in 2008. Yes we can. Remember when Mike Knox said: “I dunno” in regards to why he attacked Rey Mysterio? Jim Ross explsined on commentary that psychotic people often don’t know why they do things. Yeah, that gimmick Knox had was bad, I guess.
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Post by jason1980s on Nov 17, 2021 23:20:37 GMT -5
That’s a good one I’ve never thought of before. For as dominant as they were (Ax and Smash were 3-0 at Wrestlemania and 2-0 at Summerslam) they sure didn’t fare well at Survivor Series. Their performance in 1989 in particular was pretty pathetic. Totally punked out by a Powers of Pain team that would disband a couple months later. I feel like I remember someone saying they should have been on the Warrior team, since they were feuding with the Brain Busters but either way, they need to be eliminated but they should still look strong. Warlord and Barbarian did little of note almost a whole year before the 89 PPV and little after that. Still, they need to be eliminated so Hogan comes out victorious by himself. At least losing to POP was better than Zeus who wasn't a regular roster member and wouldn't be around much longer. That double DQ of POP was pretty lame though. Hogan should have done a big comeback, or he and Jake and it made Hogan look weak that he needed help from the Ref for three DQs. Also, poor Boris. He didn't even make it on the original Mercenaries team and poor Haku as well not making the PPV originally.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Nov 18, 2021 0:22:57 GMT -5
Can we argue this summed up the entire wrestling career of Mike Knox? It's not like his life got any better once he came back with a bushier beard in 2008. Yes we can. Remember when Mike Knox said: “I dunno” in regards to why he attacked Rey Mysterio? Jim Ross explsined on commentary that psychotic people often don’t know why they do things. Yeah, that gimmick Knox had was bad, I guess. I most remember that gimmick for Michael Cole’s trembling voice as he said, “Mike Knox’s beard is over a year old.”
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Post by Chiral on Nov 18, 2021 0:33:05 GMT -5
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Post by I'm A Pop Sensation on Nov 18, 2021 3:26:59 GMT -5
HBK's Knights
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 18, 2021 4:13:54 GMT -5
Inspired by the other fun Survivor Series threads that have been popping up lately. Who are some of the worst Survivor Series partners? There are the obvious ones like Bad News Brown, but what about someone like Hacksaw Jim Duggan? He gets counted out in 1987. He gets himself disqualified in 1988 leaving Jake Roberts alone against four other guys including Andre the Giant. Then he gets disqualified AGAIN in 1990 and squanders his teams advantage. He even acts shocked when it happens. You should know by now you can't hit people with the 2x4!! You would have to be a fool to try and recruit Jim Duggan for your Survivor Series team. Also, why would anyone pick the Bushwhackers? They don't seem to follow directions very well and then they get eliminated with ease. May as well start the match down two. But on the other hand, the Whackers eliminated people pretty quickly before going down themselves. (Rougeaus in 1989, Orient Express in 1990) Bushwhackers didn't eliminate anyone in 89. Snuka and Piper took out Jacques and Raymond respectively and then both Bushwhackers were eliminated back to back by Perfect and Rude. In 90 they took out Sato with the battering ram but Tanaka was eliminated by Tito. They were also eliminated pretty easily both of those of those years as well as 91 which was a particularly weak showing as they were the first two eliminated in their match leaving the bickering Rockers in a 4-2 hole against the Beverly Brothers and the Nasty Boys. As mentioned they did have a surprisingly good showing in 93 which probably eliminates them from the discussion of being bad Survivor Series partners. Speaking of the Rougeaus I think they honestly might be the worst partners if you look at their history in the event. They were the first eliminated off their team in 87 and 88 in the 20 man tag team elimination matches then had a super pathetic outing in 89 in the Rude's Brood vs. Roddy's Rowdies match where they were the first two eliminated after both got almost no offense. Jacques just played to the crowd after doing a front flip into the ring and a kip up before getting destroyed by Snuka who easily pinned him with the Superfly Splash. Raymond put up a little bit more of a fight then his brother as he went toe to toe with Piper a bit and got his savate kick in but ultimately ended up going down very easy too via piledriver right after. Butch Reed is another contender as he was eliminated first by Hogan in the main event of the first Survivor Series in 87 after literally no offense at all. Also you can't really credit him and One Man Gang "eliminating" "Superstar" Billy Graham with their attack on him the week before the show as being beneficial to Team Andre as if anything that ended up benefitting the Hogan team as he then replaced the broke down washed up Graham with Don "The Rock" Muraco who was a definite upgrade and ended up being one of the more effective members of the Hulkster's team that year.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 18, 2021 4:31:07 GMT -5
I would say The Demolition and not because it sounds awesome saying it like Bret-actually it was Johnny V on Superstars match insert that called them that. Ax gets DQed in 1987, they get doublecrossed in 88, Ax gets pinned thanks to Fuji in 89, Smash gets pinned too and along with Smash and Crush being DQed in 90, Ax just didn't give a damn anymore. It's kind of funny in that the first four Survivor Series were built exclusively around tag team matches and yet their most dominant tag team during that period (87-90) were usually presented to be pretty ineffective in the event. 88 they actually came off good as they were pretty dominant throughout the match even in the latter stages of the match where they were constantly having to cover for the Conquistadors who while valiant were not very effective as they basically just a couple of human crash test dummies throughout that whole match. Also if not for Fuji's double cross they likely would've won as they had a two team to one advantage and had the Powers of Pain about finished when Fuji pulled the rope down on Smash which caused him to get counted out. In 87 they did eliminate the Rougeaus and were protected with a DQ but were still an early elimination and were made to look dumb with Smash just firing the ref across the ring like he did. 89 and 90 were both weak. 89 they got taken out back to back by Powers of Pain in early eliminations and then in 90 you had Ax looking like he was done with life with him not even caring to slick his hair back and getting pinned by Warrior a few minutes in. Smash then was going to get pinned too a few minutes later by Hawk if Crush hadn't interfered which triggered the brawl that resulted in LOD and the remaining Demolition members being disqualifed.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 18, 2021 4:40:18 GMT -5
Mike Knox got eliminated instantly in the Team DX vs Team Rated RKO match. Can we argue this summed up the entire wrestling career of Mike Knox? It's not like his life got any better once he came back with a bushier beard in 2008. Knox has the distinction of going almost an entire year (May 2009 to April 2010 when he was released) without winning a single match on television. On top of that even if you include house shows and dark matches he only had ONE win. A Smackdown TV taping dark match win over Jimmy Wang Yang in September. What makes it worse is that they never acknowledged what an incredibly long losing streak he was on. It wasn't like Curt Hawkins where they made an angle out of it. When they don't make mention of it when you just keep continuing to lose that's when you know your screwed. It's too bad because I actually thought he was pretty solid worker with good size and the whole genius monster thing was kind of intriguing. I wonder why they hated him so much?
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 18, 2021 4:54:33 GMT -5
The Megapowers Team left a lot to desire once you got past Hogan and Savage. Hercules was fine, Koko B Ware was suspect, but dusting off Hillbilly Jim, who hadn’t been a full time competitor in like a year, was the most egregious. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the main things that made Savage rethink his partnership with Hogan was the Hulkster putting his over-the-hill buddy on this team, indirectly leading to Savage taking maybe the worst beating of his title run. He was half dead at the end of that match. It's kind of interesting with the 88 Survivor Series that in the three singles guys matches the babyface teams were all real top heavy in that the co captains were big stars but the three teammates were all lowercard JTTS type guys. While the heel teams were more balanced where they had captains who weren't quite as good as the face captains but had better support in that each one really only had one true weak link (Davis on the HTM/Bass team, washed up Harley Race on the Andre/Bravo team, and Rooster on the Boss Man/Akeem team).
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Post by James Fabiano on Nov 19, 2021 17:26:28 GMT -5
Oh. Why did I remember the Whackers taking out both members of the tag team on the other side?
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