Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Nov 9, 2020 16:01:48 GMT -5
That doesn't sound like an equitable trade for AEW as a whole to me, but I guess Cody's happy, oh well....  Honestly using all the WCW trademarks for shows just make them look bush league. You can use one as a fun wink but honestly they should try to develop their own names instead of leaning on a company they have no ties to in terms of history. Like if you had one card named SuperBrawl and the same named Fight fest I feel like it would sell the same. I disagree it shows continuity with WCW which they are clearly trying to establish. Clearly, they feel their cultural roots are firmly planted in WCW for good or ill. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2020 16:44:45 GMT -5
Honestly using all the WCW trademarks for shows just make them look bush league. You can use one as a fun wink but honestly they should try to develop their own names instead of leaning on a company they have no ties to in terms of history. Like if you had one card named SuperBrawl and the same named Fight fest I feel like it would sell the same. I disagree it shows continuity with WCW which they are clearly trying to establish. Clearly, they feel their cultural roots are firmly planted in WCW for good or ill. I don't see it that way at al. AEW does not feel like WCW to me. Really all they've got in common is that they are good wrestling shows. AEW doesn't need WCW ppv names. WCW is dead. It has been for almost 20 years now. The main people who seem to mark over WCW names being used by NXT and stuff are that 50+ crowd that doesn't watch AEW anyway. And if you want to talk about the "cultural roots" of AEW, I would say they lie more with ROH and NJPW than they do anything else. Hell, the show that essentially started AEW was promoted by ROH and featured a Bullet Club entrance way. Also, the AEW wrestling style in general seems to be a mix of independent and Japanese style, with just a splash of WWE style. |
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Nov 9, 2020 16:48:36 GMT -5
I disagree it shows continuity with WCW which they are clearly trying to establish. Clearly, they feel their cultural roots are firmly planted in WCW for good or ill. I don't see it that way at al. AEW does not feel like WCW to me. Really all they've got in common is that they are good wrestling shows. AEW doesn't need WCW ppv names. WCW is dead. It has been for almost 20 years now. The main people who seem to mark over WCW names being used by NXT and stuff are that 50+ crowd that doesn't watch AEW anyway. And if you want to talk about the "cultural roots" of AEW, I would say they lie more with ROH and NJPW than they do anything else. Hell, the show that essentially started AEW was promoted by ROH and featured a Bullet Club entrance way. Also, the AEW wrestling style in general seems to be a mix of independent and Japanese style, with just a splash of WWE style. I mean, they're on TNT, have two Rhodes in high ranking positions, have Tony at the booth, and have plenty of other WCW veterans. There's enough continuity between the two to draw comparisons to. That they have better overall booking than WCW doesn't diminish that fact. I can see the reasoning behind the idea. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2020 17:00:41 GMT -5
I don't see it that way at al. AEW does not feel like WCW to me. Really all they've got in common is that they are good wrestling shows. AEW doesn't need WCW ppv names. WCW is dead. It has been for almost 20 years now. The main people who seem to mark over WCW names being used by NXT and stuff are that 50+ crowd that doesn't watch AEW anyway. And if you want to talk about the "cultural roots" of AEW, I would say they lie more with ROH and NJPW than they do anything else. Hell, the show that essentially started AEW was promoted by ROH and featured a Bullet Club entrance way. Also, the AEW wrestling style in general seems to be a mix of independent and Japanese style, with just a splash of WWE style. I mean, they're on TNT, have two Rhodes in high ranking positions, have Tony at the booth, and have plenty of other WCW veterans. There's enough continuity between the two to draw comparisons to. That they have better overall booking than WCW doesn't diminish that fact. I can see the reasoning behind the idea. Absolutely, but by that logic WWE is too. The entire formula WWE uses is still inspired by 90's WCW. A ppv every month, over reliance on old part timers, using WCW ppv names, the Monday night show being unbearibly long, and he'll, a bunch of former WCW people work backstage there too. Why can't we just let AEW be its own thing instead of WCW Part 2? |
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Nov 9, 2020 17:09:53 GMT -5
I mean, they're on TNT, have two Rhodes in high ranking positions, have Tony at the booth, and have plenty of other WCW veterans. There's enough continuity between the two to draw comparisons to. That they have better overall booking than WCW doesn't diminish that fact. I can see the reasoning behind the idea. Absolutely, but by that logic WWE is too. The entire formula WWE uses is still inspired by 90's WCW. A ppv every month, over reliance on old part timers, using WCW ppv names, the Monday night show being unbearibly long, and he'll, a bunch of former WCW people work backstage there too. Why can't we just let AEW be its own thing instead of WCW Part 2? Well, it's not like they are though. Sure they use Bash at the Beach and maybe a couple others, but by large everything else about their naming has been original. I mean, wwe does more WCW through backs then them but are not labeled as WCW 2.0 (they're just labeled that now because of how poor their booking is lol). |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 11, 2020 10:22:21 GMT -5
AEW is WCW at it's most promising, the WWE is WCW at it's most complacent.
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 11, 2020 11:42:21 GMT -5
I disagree it shows continuity with WCW which they are clearly trying to establish. Clearly, they feel their cultural roots are firmly planted in WCW for good or ill. I don't see it that way at al. AEW does not feel like WCW to me. Really all they've got in common is that they are good wrestling shows. AEW doesn't need WCW ppv names. WCW is dead. It has been for almost 20 years now. The main people who seem to mark over WCW names being used by NXT and stuff are that 50+ crowd that doesn't watch AEW anyway. And if you want to talk about the "cultural roots" of AEW, I would say they lie more with ROH and NJPW than they do anything else. Hell, the show that essentially started AEW was promoted by ROH and featured a Bullet Club entrance way. Also, the AEW wrestling style in general seems to be a mix of independent and Japanese style, with just a splash of WWE style. AEW’s audience skews younger than NXT does but the median age of an AEW viewer is still something like 48 years old. WCW nostalgia definitely works on the AEW audience. The number of 50+ viewers is similar each week (slightly below usually) to the number of 18-49 viewers. |
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Post by toodarkmark on Nov 11, 2020 11:49:48 GMT -5
I think it would be nice to have some WCW stuff, especially ideas created by Dusty Rhodes, being a part of AEW. All arguments aside, it would make people like me happy.
Having people who spent decades running WCW out of business exploit it years later to hurt another competitor, well that just makes me feel sad.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 11, 2020 12:31:28 GMT -5
I think it would be nice to have some WCW stuff, especially ideas created by Dusty Rhodes, being a part of AEW. All arguments aside, it would make people like me happy. Having people who spent decades running WCW out of business exploit it years later to hurt another competitor, well that just makes me feel sad. Let's not forget the decade they spent telling anyone who would listen that WCW was utterly worthless and never made anyone a star ever including all the guys they signed because WCW had made them look like stars, something they did riiiiiight up until they realised that they can make money from the archive. |
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Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Nov 11, 2020 12:32:38 GMT -5
AEW is WCW at it's most promising, the WWE is WCW at it's most complacent. I couldn't have put it better, bravo.  |
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