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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Nov 27, 2020 10:02:48 GMT -5
I would much prefer a hot potato belt pushing stories and elevating everyone involved, than one dominant guy who doesnt need it sitting there with it with no credible challengers I don't understand this complaint at all. He won by the skin of his teeth against Brodie and Archer, he had to cheat (per the match stipulation) to beat MJF, he only beat Cage by Taz throwing in the towel - hell, it took him a chair-assisted Paradigm Shift to beat Hager of all people. He beat Kingston clean but Kingston, through his feud with Mox, became arguably the most compelling character in wrestling. Mox has elevated damn near everyone he's faced. And there was a lot of traction in terms of both Brodie and Eddie. In retrospect it's easy to say nobody was really going to beat Mox, but Eddie had a lot of heat going for him. I know I wanted him to take the title.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Nov 27, 2020 10:22:57 GMT -5
Aside from the character stuff I was mentioning early, I can’t say I have an issue with the length of the reign. Mox has been putting on entertaining matches that suit his persona, and I think it’s healthy for a title to have longer reigns more often than not because it helps to boost the prestige of the title.
IMO, hot potatoing a title should be super rare. Something a company does when two wrestlers are both equally molten hot, and even then after that I think it’s better for a longer reign from an established star after that for a soft reset, before setting up the next new star and champion. Rinse, repeat.
Mox probably doesn’t need another year long run after this , but this does help the AEW title have some stable footing while more stars are being groomed, and he could help make more new stars with the title down the road (which also boosts his own drawing power).
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Post by Fake Jesus on Nov 27, 2020 11:02:41 GMT -5
Aside from the character stuff I was mentioning early, I can’t say I have an issue with the length of the reign. Mox has been putting on entertaining matches that suit his persona, and I think it’s healthy for a title to have longer reigns more often than not because it helps to boost the prestige of the title. IMO, hot potatoing a title should be super rare. Something a company does when two wrestlers are both equally molten hot, and even then after that I think it’s better for a longer reign from an established star after that for a soft reset, before setting up the next new star and champion. Rinse, repeat. Mox probably doesn’t need another year long run after this , but this does help the AEW title have some stable footing while more stars are being groomed, and he could help make more new stars with the title down the road (which also boosts his own drawing power). While I agree, he'll probably get it. Although AEW is pretty focused on making new stars at the minute, Moxley, aside from being their clear #1 guy, is also pretty young, so there's definitely going to be a time (whether as a heel or a face in a different type of environment) he's given the ball for a solid 6-8 month run again
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 27, 2020 13:26:02 GMT -5
It's smart having the only two World Title runs so far be long ones. Aside from establishing the belt as important, it's got people hungry for their favourites holding it. Obviously don't do this all the time, but it's gonna be a big deal when Omega, Page or Darby (okay YMMV on the last one) finally get it.
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Post by Instant Classic on Nov 27, 2020 13:33:56 GMT -5
Probably my favorite wrestler since Cena became a part timer. Glad he’s been killing it. May have enjoyed McIntyres run more but that may be cause I’ve seen more of McIntyre reign.
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Post by Dub H on Nov 27, 2020 17:16:43 GMT -5
The Best Way I have seen put:
Almost every title feud he had helped develop/showcase his character
He showed he was ruthless and able to improvise.
He showed his soft side and compassion.
He showed his cunning and smarts.
He showed his personal relationships and past struggles.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 27, 2020 23:35:56 GMT -5
It's smart having the only two World Title runs so far be long ones. Aside from establishing the belt as important, it's got people hungry for their favourites holding it. Obviously don't do this all the time, but it's gonna be a big deal when Omega, Page or Darby (okay YMMV on the last one) finally get it. Darby will probably have it eventually, he's pretty ludicrously popular.
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Post by BRAINFADE on Nov 27, 2020 23:40:44 GMT -5
It's smart having the only two World Title runs so far be long ones. Aside from establishing the belt as important, it's got people hungry for their favourites holding it. Obviously don't do this all the time, but it's gonna be a big deal when Omega, Page or Darby (okay YMMV on the last one) finally get it. Darby will probably have it eventually, he's pretty ludicrously popular. No doubt that Darby will get it at some point, but I do hope it isn't a long run with it. Darby works better in the chase, it's why I think he won't have the TNT title for too long. Anyway, yeah Mox has been fantastic as champion. I can't believe WWE let this guy slip through their fingers, they should have built the entire company around him.
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Post by moxfan1 on Nov 28, 2020 12:12:17 GMT -5
Darby will probably have it eventually, he's pretty ludicrously popular. Anyway, yeah Mox has been fantastic as champion. I can't believe WWE let this guy slip through their fingers, they should have built the entire company around him. It's just what WWE does. If you aren't one of Vince chosen ones or become that. There's a ceiling for how hard they will push you. Even if you are super over with the fans. Look at how nuts fans had to go for Daniel Bryan for them to push him as top guy. Even look at their roster right now. Kevin Owens is totally stuck in that top of the card baby face role. That Ambrose found himself in a lot. Who's over enough to be in the big feuds and matches. But you know he's not one of Vince guys. So he's not going to win many of the big feuds or get tons of world title reigns. Bray Wyatt was stuck in that spot for a while too. But he changed his character and Vince values him little more now then he did. Dean Ambrose was part of Main roster for 6 and half years and he missed 9 months of that. So when you take away his final few months when he was leaving. He was really only around for like 5 and half years. Being part of the Shield, World Champ, 3 time IC Champ, Longest reigning US Champ and 2 time Tag Champ is solid run. But unless Vince would have allowed him to change his character or be what he wanted it to be. Which he didn't think would happen. Dean Ambrose probably hit his ceiling. WWE was clearly holding him back and he's one of biggest stars in wrestling outside of WWE now. More guys like him need to leave WWE if they are going to put ceiling on you and never let you do your character the way you want it.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 30, 2020 18:45:15 GMT -5
It's smart having the only two World Title runs so far be long ones. Aside from establishing the belt as important, it's got people hungry for their favourites holding it. Obviously don't do this all the time, but it's gonna be a big deal when Omega, Page or Darby (okay YMMV on the last one) finally get it. It's going to be a big deal whenever anybody has a reign shorter than a few months with it. And I think a good title lineage needs some moments like that. You gotta have a shocking twist title win once in a while.
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Post by BorneAgain on Nov 30, 2020 18:52:54 GMT -5
I've made this comparison before but Moxley reminds me a bit of Christian as a babyface in ECW. He's strong without being superman, smart without making his opponents look like idiots, and capable of being an underdog without looking weak.
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Post by eJm on Nov 30, 2020 18:56:37 GMT -5
I've made this comparison before but Moxley reminds me a bit of Christian as a babyface in ECW. He's strong without being superman, smart without making his opponents look like idiots, and capable of being an underdog without looking weak. Huh. I never thought of that comparison before. Which is weird because Christian’s run as ECW champion was one of my favourite things at the time.
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