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Post by Dub H on Nov 24, 2020 20:16:47 GMT -5
Even if he is in shape Kurt is broken down. Unless he has a miracle surgery,not gonna happen.
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ronin705
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Post by ronin705 on Nov 24, 2020 21:23:45 GMT -5
I can honestly say, i dont care. We have a roster, and only ONE real homegrown marquee name in Darby. I feel time should be spent developing the roster now into the legends of tomorrow
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 24, 2020 23:29:35 GMT -5
Angle if he could somehow regain some of his ability to move around the ring quicker and more fluidly would be amazing against Omega.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 24, 2020 23:54:18 GMT -5
Angle if he could somehow regain some of his ability to move around the ring quicker and more fluidly would be amazing against Omega. I'm just wondering what the hell regimine Angle got on that he looks that good. He looked like he was being held together by duct tape in his last match with Corbin and his farewell run, he looks so much leaner and it's just nice to see overall, even if he never wrestles again I'm glad he's healthy.
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Post by nisidhe on Nov 25, 2020 2:39:44 GMT -5
Zelina would posssibly shut up about the U-word tout de suite if she were to get into AEW. They've touted themselves as letting its talent do their side gigs without interference, seemingly, since the whole Twitch/Cameo controversy came up.
There are a few names I can see on Tony Khan's or the EVPs' wish lists. While the women's division can use some bulking up, if the name is big enough, AEW can easily find a spot for them.
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Post by sunnytaker on Nov 25, 2020 12:15:24 GMT -5
so they're going to use a larger font when they announce the signing? that's what they mean by "big names' right?
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Post by markymark on Nov 25, 2020 19:22:19 GMT -5
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 25, 2020 19:42:30 GMT -5
Sounds like December 2nd is gonna be a big show for a lot of reasons.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Nov 26, 2020 0:56:29 GMT -5
In no universe is a guy like Eli Drake a "big name."
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Post by moxfan1 on Nov 26, 2020 13:15:47 GMT -5
In no universe is a guy like Eli Drake a "big name." Yeah when Tony talking about adding talent that might bring in more viewers only two guys out there really in Brock and Punk. Those are really the only names that could create a buzz and get more households to try It out.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 26, 2020 13:47:57 GMT -5
Being in great shape is one thing, moving is another. Kurt looked terrible the last few years. It absolutely sucks what wwe did by not only sticking him with Corbin but also losing to the dude in such an anticlimactic moment. I really don't think I wanna see one more match from Kurt as sad as it is to say. Exactly. Angle looks in great shape, but it takes a lot more than just being in great shape to be even half the wrestler he used to be without risking serious injury.
I mean, I'd love to see the dude show up in a non-wrestling role. But unless a miracle's happened, I don't want to see the guy wrestle a real match ever again.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 26, 2020 14:45:03 GMT -5
In no universe is a guy like Eli Drake a "big name." Yeah when Tony talking about adding talent that might bring in more viewers only two guys out there really in Brock and Punk. Those are really the only names that could create a buzz and get more households to try It out. Butcher and Blade have gotten over a million viewers when they show up. Darby/Starks hit a million, Kingston usually moves a meter as well when he shows up. I get the sort of bump you're talking about but Khan also seems to be talking about wrestlers who can catch the eye of casuals in a different way. It doesn't always necessarily have to be the obvious "Brock" or "Punk" answer.
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Post by moxfan1 on Nov 26, 2020 17:06:49 GMT -5
Yeah when Tony talking about adding talent that might bring in more viewers only two guys out there really in Brock and Punk. Those are really the only names that could create a buzz and get more households to try It out. Butcher and Blade have gotten over a million viewers when they show up. Darby/Starks hit a million, Kingston usually moves a meter as well when he shows up. I get the sort of bump you're talking about but Khan also seems to be talking about wrestlers who can catch the eye of casuals in a different way. It doesn't always necessarily have to be the obvious "Brock" or "Punk" answer. Khan talking about adding more households and growing the viewership. Not viewer ship spikes in certain demos as you mentioned above with Butcher&Blade or Starks/Darby. Those spikes are still the same people watching AEW and NXT and going back and forth. If you listen to Meltzers data on AEW it is they do really well per household. Meaning on the good weeks they get spikes in ratings. Majority of the people living in the house are watching the show. With wives watching with husband's and kids watching as well etc. The problem AEW is having is they aren't getting new households to watch the product. Now keep in mind 10 to 20 years ago people would turn on the tv. Then flip through the channels and find what they want to watch. Back then you could flip on USA and see Stone Cold beating up Vince and say oh what's this and keep watching. Or turn on TNT and see Hulk Hogan doing stuff with NBA stars etc and try out or keep watching the product. Well in 2020 people aren't flipping through the channels and giving opportunities to get hooked and watch something. They basically go to a tv guide and pick what show, game or movie or catch up on dvr or on-demand stuff they missed. So the channels aren't getting even being put on to attract new viewers. So what they could be doing awesome stuff and people still won't know. So if you read between what Khan said here and Omega said recently on Wrestling Observer radio. They are aware of the issue in hot growing new households or be given the chance to with how people view tv in 2020. These days you need to bring audience in and hook them before they watch it. So when you look at what Khan says above it can only mean two things. He says he wants to partner with his media partners. Which would do stuff like having Shaq wrestling. Or stuff like AEW wrestlers on bigger platform in media with talk shows, movies, sports, tv shows etc to get the word out. While I'm sorry but if Khan talking about big signings to add more households and grow the audience. Hes not talking about Ryback, ROH guys, or Eli Drake and guys like that. He's talking about names that would create a buzz going to AEW. Like Brock who has big WWE and UFC audience. Or CM Punk who was big WWE star 6 to 10 years ago. You could bring some wrestling fans back to see him wrestle again. Along with current WWE audience. Any other big draws like this that I'm not thinking of? I know AEW actually signing these guys or seen more in main stream media stuff. Seems little far far fetched right now. But Tony Khan clearly has big vision for AEW growth. With money and connections to do a lot. They are billionaire family for a reason. So I don't think we should write off anything big at the moment. It's clear in year two they wanna grow from 800 to 850 and .30s in 18 to 49 demo. My guess by end of 2021 they wanna be in millions viewer range and .40s in demos on average.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 26, 2020 18:47:27 GMT -5
Guys in their late 40's and 50's and who can't really wrestle anymore are not long-term draws. They'll get curiosity ratings pops at most. Lesnar hasn't been a consistent draw on his own since his first comeback run in WWE and even if he could be that in AEW, he isn't worth the headache IMO. Same with Punk, though he isn't quite as toxic as Lesnar.
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Post by Texas Tornado on Nov 26, 2020 19:11:36 GMT -5
Wrestling fans care about Matt Cardona’s appearance in AEW more than AEW does
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Nov 26, 2020 19:13:25 GMT -5
Sounds like December 2nd is gonna be a big show for a lot of reasons. Could Moxley’s attacker be revealed as a big name that night?
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Nov 26, 2020 19:34:16 GMT -5
Butcher and Blade have gotten over a million viewers when they show up. Darby/Starks hit a million, Kingston usually moves a meter as well when he shows up. I get the sort of bump you're talking about but Khan also seems to be talking about wrestlers who can catch the eye of casuals in a different way. It doesn't always necessarily have to be the obvious "Brock" or "Punk" answer. Khan talking about adding more households and growing the viewership. Not viewer ship spikes in certain demos as you mentioned above with Butcher&Blade or Starks/Darby. Those spikes are still the same people watching AEW and NXT and going back and forth. If you listen to Meltzers data on AEW it is they do really well per household. Meaning on the good weeks they get spikes in ratings. Majority of the people living in the house are watching the show. With wives watching with husband's and kids watching as well etc. The problem AEW is having is they aren't getting new households to watch the product. Now keep in mind 10 to 20 years ago people would turn on the tv. Then flip through the channels and find what they want to watch. Back then you could flip on USA and see Stone Cold beating up Vince and say oh what's this and keep watching. Or turn on TNT and see Hulk Hogan doing stuff with NBA stars etc and try out or keep watching the product. Well in 2020 people aren't flipping through the channels and giving opportunities to get hooked and watch something. They basically go to a tv guide and pick what show, game or movie or catch up on dvr or on-demand stuff they missed. So the channels aren't getting even being put on to attract new viewers. So what they could be doing awesome stuff and people still won't know. So if you read between what Khan said here and Omega said recently on Wrestling Observer radio. They are aware of the issue in hot growing new households or be given the chance to with how people view tv in 2020. These days you need to bring audience in and hook them before they watch it. So when you look at what Khan says above it can only mean two things. He says he wants to partner with his media partners. Which would do stuff like having Shaq wrestling. Or stuff like AEW wrestlers on bigger platform in media with talk shows, movies, sports, tv shows etc to get the word out. While I'm sorry but if Khan talking about big signings to add more households and grow the audience. Hes not talking about Ryback, ROH guys, or Eli Drake and guys like that. He's talking about names that would create a buzz going to AEW. Like Brock who has big WWE and UFC audience. Or CM Punk who was big WWE star 6 to 10 years ago. You could bring some wrestling fans back to see him wrestle again. Along with current WWE audience. Any other big draws like this that I'm not thinking of? I know AEW actually signing these guys or seen more in main stream media stuff. Seems little far far fetched right now. But Tony Khan clearly has big vision for AEW growth. With money and connections to do a lot. They are billionaire family for a reason. So I don't think we should write off anything big at the moment. It's clear in year two they wanna grow from 800 to 850 and .30s in 18 to 49 demo. My guess by end of 2021 they wanna be in millions viewer range and .40s in demos on average. Yeah..that Tony bit had me recalling what Kenny was saying on observer radio. This doesn’t sound like your typical wrestling sign-ups but something (or many things) else. Celebrities, maybe media partnerships, who knows. Got me curious. And a little concerned TBH lol..we’ll see.
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Post by chrom on Nov 26, 2020 19:39:18 GMT -5
We don't need E List Celebrities who don't know the name of the promotion or the roster showing up.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Nov 26, 2020 20:16:07 GMT -5
Guys in their late 40's and 50's and who can't really wrestle anymore are not long-term draws. They'll get curiosity ratings pops at most. Lesnar hasn't been a consistent draw on his own since his first comeback run in WWE and even if he could be that in AEW, he isn't worth the headache IMO. Same with Punk, though he isn't quite as toxic as Lesnar. I can't think of any better argument that Brock isn't a vital wrestling ratings draw than the past five years of Brock-dominated WWE television. He's not the main reason that ratings for Raw have plummeted, but if he was the savior draw someone who got booking like that would be, they wouldn't have bled their way down to where they are now. Brock is insane amounts of money for near-zero upward interest.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 26, 2020 20:29:19 GMT -5
We don't need E List Celebrities who don't know the name of the promotion or the roster showing up. That ship kinda sailed when they had Jay and Silent Bob cameo right at the beginning of Dynamite AEW aren't doing dumb moves when it comes to celeb cameos, it feels like everyone who wants to be there or does stuff for them, actively wants to do it. Jericho's been a big gatekeeper for that
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