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Post by The Rick Jericho on Nov 23, 2020 19:31:53 GMT -5
The chemistry Ross and Heyman had were amazing. Honestly, those 8 months were so refreshing compared to the 3 years before and the 4 years after of Ross and Lawler together.
With that said, if Lawler called Wrestlemania X-7, would the card still be as good?
Does good commentary go a long way?
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Post by flowercity on Nov 23, 2020 21:15:59 GMT -5
Yes.
Hot take: Lawler is still the best announcer WWE employs. He understands how to get talent over which should be the main focus of announcing.
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Post by FinalGwen on Nov 23, 2020 21:23:38 GMT -5
The match quality might still carry it, but it'd be way worse than it is.
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Post by chazraps on Nov 23, 2020 21:41:11 GMT -5
Lawler did bring an A game to both Summerslam 2000 and Survivor Series 2000 (divas gawking nonewithstanding) so even though week-to-week he was starting to decline, there's no inclination we would have gotten 2003 Lawler or lower at WMX7.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 23, 2020 21:50:47 GMT -5
Lawler did bring an A game to both Summerslam 2000 and Survivor Series 2000 (divas gawking nonewithstanding) so even though week-to-week he was starting to decline, there's no inclination we would have gotten 2003 Lawler or lower at WMX7. Lawler massive decline was only really noticeable to me when A. he turned fully face and b. him and JR were split. |
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Post by chazraps on Nov 23, 2020 22:01:44 GMT -5
Lawler did bring an A game to both Summerslam 2000 and Survivor Series 2000 (divas gawking nonewithstanding) so even though week-to-week he was starting to decline, there's no inclination we would have gotten 2003 Lawler or lower at WMX7. Lawler only massive declined was only really noticeable to me when A. he turned fully face and b. him and JR were split. Pretty much, Royal Rumble 2003 vs No Way Out 2003 were like night and day. But he did fall into a catchphrase machine, as many did, around the summer of '99, so there is something of a slight dip, but he'd still hit the peaks when he was focused. |
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Post by Fade on Nov 23, 2020 23:32:35 GMT -5
Still a classic. Lawler might’ve been better, doubt it, but possible.
Though Heyman calling WrestleMania the “Showcase of the Immortals” is one of my favorite calls. Dunno if it’d been used before or came from someone else.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 23:37:39 GMT -5
Hell no.
Personally, I feel like Lawler, as commentator, actively took away from shows as he wouldn't stop talking about how f***ing horny he was. He would have been especially insufferable during Trish Stratus's moment in the Vince/Shane match, for example.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 23, 2020 23:41:25 GMT -5
Still a classic. Lawler might’ve been better, doubt it, but possible. Though Heyman calling WrestleMania the “Showcase of the Immortals” is one of my favorite calls. Dunno if it’d been used before or came from someone else. I think it was used before that... but I can't say for certain. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 23, 2020 23:52:49 GMT -5
I don't think it'd have changed that much, but I also just don't really think of 17 as being this night of big calls so much.
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Post by protuberance on Nov 24, 2020 0:29:24 GMT -5
I'd take Lawler doing color over Heyman on any show ever, so yes.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Nov 24, 2020 0:46:42 GMT -5
I think the show would have been just as good, and we wouldn't really notice the quality of the commentary without having Heyman to compare it to. Lawler was just part and parcel to the Attitude Era up until that point.
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Post by Stu on Nov 24, 2020 1:09:12 GMT -5
Side note: The most memorable line of the night didn’t come from Heyman and wouldn’t come from Lawler.
JR: Lita jerking Edge off ..... the ladder.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 24, 2020 2:39:47 GMT -5
Probably could have been the same as King was still quality during that time
Heyman/JR was just a solid duo tho. Heyman forced JR to bring his A game and kept him thinking.
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Post by sungod2020 on Nov 24, 2020 8:17:34 GMT -5
Probably could have been the same as King was still quality during that time Heyman/JR was just a solid duo tho. Heyman forced JR to bring his A game and kept him thinking. I remember during a very competitive match on RAW, there was a close call and Jim Ross told Heyman "YOU CAN KISS MY ASS I SAW A THREE!!!" I forgot who was involved, but it was one of the funniest things JR has said on commentary. |
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Post by Perfect Timing on Nov 24, 2020 8:40:54 GMT -5
I think it would be just as good there was some great stories going in.
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Post by msc on Nov 24, 2020 8:50:16 GMT -5
As long as we kept Mean Gene and Bobby it'd be fine...
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Post by msc on Nov 24, 2020 8:55:57 GMT -5
Still a classic. Lawler might’ve been better, doubt it, but possible. Though Heyman calling WrestleMania the “Showcase of the Immortals” is one of my favorite calls. Dunno if it’d been used before or came from someone else. I think it was used before that... but I can't say for certain. It was for sure as Freddie Blassie used it during the opening of WrestleMania 15. I feel like Gorilla used it before then but I can't find it. |
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Post by fw91 on Nov 24, 2020 9:54:13 GMT -5
Yes. Heyman was good, but it’s not something I really remember when thinking about what made that show so great.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Nov 24, 2020 12:06:02 GMT -5
Absolutely, but I'm glad it was Heyman just for his post main event call alone.
"Stone Cold Steve Austin has *sold his soul* for the WWF title"
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