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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 10, 2020 10:28:26 GMT -5
I"m pretty sure we've had a lot of Survivor Series team threads, but what about JCP/WCW's battles of teams striving to survive?
Good ones: The Original Two (Superpowers/LOD, the Horsemen all together w/JJ) Not on video, but would have loved the team of Midnights, Tully and Arn, and Big Bubba. This was the Nassau Coliseum WG just seen before Starrcade '87. The match sucked, but Sting/Hogan/Luger/Savage is a dream team.
Bad ones: Dungeon of Doom do NOT belong in a War Games. Sid and Vader, okay. Then...Harlem Heat?? (they just debuted and were nowhere neat as legendary as they'd become)
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Post by fw91 on Dec 10, 2020 11:18:21 GMT -5
Nash, Syxx, Konan and Bagwell seemed pretty lackluster for an NWO team.
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Post by jason1980s on Dec 10, 2020 12:45:59 GMT -5
Dungeon of Doom at one time were all pretty famous but sadly by 1995 and with those gimmick they were awful.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2020 13:05:35 GMT -5
It's more of a matter of individual members of teams not really feeling like they should be in War Games, rather than the teams themselves for me.
1991: El Gigante during the Great American Bash tour, and his counterpart, One Man Gang.
1993: Really, everyone in the match but Sting, Vader, and Sid. Especially the Shockmaster and super green Harlem Heat. I loved Davey Boy as a wrestler, but he didn't really scream "War Games" to me.
1994: The Nasty Boys and Bunkhouse Buck
1995:The entire Dungeon of Doom team except Meng
1997: Bagwell (and honestly probably Konnan and Syxx, but I give them a pass because they were good workers and were able to do some cool stuff in the cages)
1998: Stevie Ray
2000 (if you're even gonna count it): Kronik and the Harris Brothers
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Post by Duke Cameron on Dec 10, 2020 13:33:04 GMT -5
Best: The Dangerous Alliance
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Dec 10, 2020 15:09:40 GMT -5
This was my immediate thought. This was the year that the WCW team also had an absolutely knackered Roddy Piper, and the Ultimate Warrior doing possibly the stupidest entrance to a War Games match in history with the Renegade and the trap door and dry ice.
I was going to say it's probably one of the worst WCW PPVs ever, but to be honest it probably doesn't even crack the top ten.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Dec 10, 2020 17:42:24 GMT -5
You have a match where the other participants are Hogan, Piper, Warrior, Nash, Bret Hart, Sting, Lugar, and DDP. Even as a kid I could tell he was in the match to eat the fall. As for the question, the Teams in the 1987 Bash War Games are perfect. Had Arn not been injured, the Flair/Arn/Windham/Sid vs Sting/Pillman/Steiners would’ve been one of the best pairings too. As for as worst: theres a relatively famous July 1991 WCW House Show that has a camcorder recording. It’s the event where they announce that Flair had been stripped of the title. The main event is a WarGames between Sting/Lugar/Yellow Dog/El Gigante/ vs Nikita/Sullivan/One Man Gang/Windham. What a mess. Funny enough, it’s actually a halfway decent match.
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Post by chrom on Dec 10, 2020 17:45:25 GMT -5
Sting's Squadron has to be up there with The Best
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Dec 10, 2020 18:10:55 GMT -5
Both teams in the 1994 match are pretty "wtf were they thinking??". Dusty returning to War Games is cool, but then he and Dustin are joined by the just recently turned babyface Nasty Boys. And on the opposing side you've got War Games veteran Arn Anderson and legend Terry Funk, but then Bunkhouse Buck and manager Robert Parker? Probably the reason it's the match nobody ever talks about. Even 93 gets mentioned, because of the debut of Shockmaster during the build to it, and 1995 gets mentioned for Luger's surprise return 13 days prior and because of the Giant/Hogan stuff at the beginning and end of the show. 1994? Hell, I don't even see the PPV as a whole get talked about much.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Dec 10, 2020 23:24:32 GMT -5
Best: The Dangerous Alliance Dangerous Alliance vs Sting's Squadron was in my opinion the best Wargames match
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Post by protuberance on Dec 12, 2020 1:05:29 GMT -5
I really hate to be negative and/or derail the conversation, but can I ask a question? ... Does anyone else just not like War Games matches that much?
People talk about them like they're the best matches ever, and I just don't get it. I've seen maybe half of them including 92 and some early ones. What am I missing?
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Dec 12, 2020 4:51:45 GMT -5
I really hate to be negative and/or derail the conversation, but can I ask a question? ... Does anyone else just not like War Games matches that much? People talk about them like they're the best matches ever, and I just don't get it. I've seen maybe half of them including 92 and some early ones. What am I missing? I feel the same. I like the concept and such, and would always recreate it with my figures growing up. However, I bought the DVD set a while ago, and watching the matches, nothing stuck out to me as "wow, that was amazing!"
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Post by thecrusherwi on Dec 12, 2020 8:43:19 GMT -5
I really hate to be negative and/or derail the conversation, but can I ask a question? ... Does anyone else just not like War Games matches that much? People talk about them like they're the best matches ever, and I just don't get it. I've seen maybe half of them including 92 and some early ones. What am I missing? I mean it’s all preference obviously, and I really like WarGames when done well but I can see it’s flaws. The only real highspots in the match before the end are new people entering the match. And it’s not even like the Royal Rumble where people can get eliminated. And the finishing “Match Beyond” segment of the match almost always feels rushed in the original version. I’m a huge WarGames fan and some of the early ones are among my favorite matches in wrestling history, but I think, similar to Hell in a Cell, there’s been more mediocre and bad ones than there have been good ones.
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