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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Feb 26, 2021 20:16:09 GMT -5
So did we ever figure out why Vision is suddenly the property of SWORD even though he was an Avenger born from an Infinity Stone and body built by Ultron, who was previously created by Stark and Banner? And don't say a wizard did it. That would be a byproduct of the Sokovia Accords. They’re actually pretty draconian and very unconstitutional. For example, not only are you not allowed to act without permission of the government, but if you are deemed subject to the Accords you can be forced to act on the government’s whim whether you want to or not. In other words, obligatory drafting of “special” people.
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Post by mattperiolat on Feb 26, 2021 21:29:05 GMT -5
So did we ever figure out why Vision is suddenly the property of SWORD even though he was an Avenger born from an Infinity Stone and body built by Ultron, who was previously created by Stark and Banner? And don't say a wizard did it. That would be a byproduct of the Sokovia Accords. They’re actually pretty draconian and very unconstitutional. For example, not only are you not allowed to act without permission of the government, but if you are deemed subject to the Accords you can be forced to act on the government’s whim whether you want to or not. In other words, obligatory drafting of “special” people. Vision didn’t even see the contradiction. He signed the Accords, but he still saw himself as a person because Wanda did.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 26, 2021 21:38:57 GMT -5
Also {Spoiler} Scarlet Witch is pretty clearly some sort of legend to Agathas coven. She's now seen her myth made flesh.
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Post by King Boo on Feb 26, 2021 21:47:17 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Wanda talking about the waves and drowning made me cry. It was like someone was able to write out how I feel.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 26, 2021 21:48:43 GMT -5
So about that book last week... {Spoiler}Remember back in “Dr. Strange” where Strange was in the Ancient One’s library...and a book was missing...
...and all of the books were separated by hexagons...
...and presumably the hexagons are hexes keeping the dark magic in those books from contaminating and crossing with the other books...
...so what if even if Wanda knows it or not, the hex is keeping the dark magic contained within from contaminating the rest of the world?
There’s a bigger reason now for Strange to interfere. Agatha might have jacked the book from the Ancient One which means she’s damn powerful.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Feb 26, 2021 21:57:29 GMT -5
So did we ever figure out why Vision is suddenly the property of SWORD even though he was an Avenger born from an Infinity Stone and body built by Ultron, who was previously created by Stark and Banner? And don't say a wizard did it. Dr. Strange hasn't been apart of this... yet. And you know I never really thought about it until recently, but Dr. Strange... would he be a warlock, a wizard, or both in a classic context? Whatever he is... this is an area of the Marvel universe he has a vested interest in. You know the thing about Marvel that we need to give them credit for is how they slow drip these concepts into the films. Ideas like the infinity stones just aren't delivered in a hamfisted manner. Like in Spider-Man: Far from Home, a part of Mysterio's con was he was from another dimension. This multiverse concept is now being explored here. For all the talk that Wandavision would introduce {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}mutants and/or the X-men it appears they are at least introducing more supernatural elements like witches. Which could be important for Blade. This is why Marvel has been successful in the shared universe concept and others have not. You can't rush this stuff and expect audiences are going to accept that reality.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 26, 2021 22:35:51 GMT -5
So about that book last week... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Remember back in “Dr. Strange” where Strange was in the Ancient One’s library...and a book was missing...
...and all of the books were separated by hexagons...
...and presumably the hexagons are hexes keeping the dark magic in those books from contaminating and crossing with the other books...
...so what if even if Wanda knows it or not, the hex is keeping the dark magic contained within from contaminating the rest of the world?
There’s a bigger reason now for Strange to interfere. Agatha might have jacked the book from the Ancient One which means she’s damn powerful. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Yea, I think we are pretty set to see a Doctor Strange sighting come next week which everyone expected due to the events
We saw the grief Wanda went through and just f***ed up a whole town
If she is forced to give up her kids and lose Vision again, she is going to blow even bigger
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Feb 26, 2021 22:59:56 GMT -5
So did we ever figure out why Vision is suddenly the property of SWORD even though he was an Avenger born from an Infinity Stone and body built by Ultron, who was previously created by Stark and Banner? And don't say a wizard did it. That would be a byproduct of the Sokovia Accords. They’re actually pretty draconian and very unconstitutional. For example, not only are you not allowed to act without permission of the government, but if you are deemed subject to the Accords you can be forced to act on the government’s whim whether you want to or not. In other words, obligatory drafting of “special” people. Shouldn't the Accords be considered non grata post-Endgame with the Avengers stopping Thanos and all that snapping business?
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 26, 2021 23:01:44 GMT -5
That would be a byproduct of the Sokovia Accords. They’re actually pretty draconian and very unconstitutional. For example, not only are you not allowed to act without permission of the government, but if you are deemed subject to the Accords you can be forced to act on the government’s whim whether you want to or not. In other words, obligatory drafting of “special” people. Shouldn't the Accords be considered non grata post-Endgame with the Avengers stopping Thanos and all that snapping business? Nope. They’ve made clear in the series from the SWORD parts that the Accords are still in full effect.
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Post by cosmo on Feb 26, 2021 23:02:03 GMT -5
So did we ever figure out why Vision is suddenly the property of SWORD even though he was an Avenger born from an Infinity Stone and body built by Ultron, who was previously created by Stark and Banner? And don't say a wizard did it.
This is a guess on my part, but maybe Thunderbolt Ross claimed his body on behalf of the government and the Avengers that were still around after the snap were too exhausted by everything to argue?
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Post by Push R Truth on Feb 26, 2021 23:09:50 GMT -5
Supergrover in the finale would make this the greatest show in the history of our sport.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Feb 26, 2021 23:13:02 GMT -5
Shouldn't the Accords be considered non grata post-Endgame with the Avengers stopping Thanos and all that snapping business? Nope. They’ve made clear in the series from the SWORD parts that the Accords are still in full effect. One would think that saving the entire goddamned galaxy from a cosmic murderer would be enough for the superheroes to get some leeway and have the Accords repealed, but I guess that ain't the case.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Feb 26, 2021 23:17:48 GMT -5
All I have to say is that these young whipper snappers don't know how good they have it.
They younger me would have been losing it with all of the greatest we've been given.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 26, 2021 23:24:30 GMT -5
Nope. They’ve made clear in the series from the SWORD parts that the Accords are still in full effect. One would think that saving the entire goddamned galaxy from a cosmic murderer would be enough for the superheroes to get some leeway and have the Accords repealed, but I guess that ain't the case. Typical damn world governments. We thought maybe we could reward ya’ll by revoking the Accords after ya’ll saved the world and a few of ya died and stuff...butttttttttttt...nah, ya’ll can eat a bag of dicks.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 26, 2021 23:27:34 GMT -5
One would think that saving the entire goddamned galaxy from a cosmic murderer would be enough for the superheroes to get some leeway and have the Accords repealed, but I guess that ain't the case. Typical damn world governments. We thought maybe we could reward ya’ll by revoking the Accords after ya’ll saved the world and a few of ya died and stuff...butttttttttttt...nah, ya’ll can eat a bag of dicks. Government: Sorry Pepper, we are claiming Tonys body Pepper: He's a human and we did a proper funeral for him already Government: That piece of metal in his chest makes him a Cyborg in my book and that makes him government property. Dig him up boys
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 26, 2021 23:50:04 GMT -5
On another note... {Spoiler}They’re gonna milk “Pietro” and Dottie all the way to the last week aren’t they? They could have shown Dottie amongst the people Wanda saw driving into town but they’re all like....nahhhhhh.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Feb 26, 2021 23:53:06 GMT -5
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Feb 27, 2021 2:02:16 GMT -5
Pretty lame of Steve to let Vision's body be taken and experimented on.
Kind of left that loose thread remain untended too before you took off for happy sexy time with Peggy in the 1950s.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Feb 27, 2021 3:32:08 GMT -5
Next week it's finally Bova's turn to get the spotlight in the MCU.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 7:21:37 GMT -5
I feel I can say this without spoilers but please change if not. The show's exploration of grief and the trauma it inflicts is the most emotionally resonant element that's ever been in the MCU. They're all fun, character driven movies. But they've never done this kind of deep dive into a character's psyche. Wanda's got from a filler member to the most interesting character in the entire franchise. I mean, PTSD was somewhat explored with Stark in IM3 and particularly Thor in Endgame, so there's that. Emphasis on some what . I'm not arguing they've never done it. Theres plenty of examples. I would add to your list the exploration of family in GOTG2. What I am arguing though is this is the best exploration of a theme and certainly the deepest and most complex.
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