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Post by Stu on Jan 17, 2021 12:06:57 GMT -5
The world needs more Paul Bettany in general. Had my mind blown a few minutes ago by this factoid: Paul Bettany has now been in the first project of each phase of the MCU: Voicing JARVIS in Iron Man and Iron Man 3, Vision in Captain America: Civil War and WandaVision. Don’t 12 years go by in a blink? It’s often stated - and I tend to agree - that he was the biggest omission from the Endgame credits. He should’ve had a cameo just so he could be included with the rest of the cast.
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Post by mattperiolat on Jan 17, 2021 12:50:16 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}I don’t remember seeing Wanda wearing a ring at all prior to the wedding ring (the red stone) in the first episode. I’ll need to rewatch episode 2 to see if it had changed.
Or maybe something to be saved for the end. {Spoiler}{Spoiler} God, my eyesight stinks.
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Post by mattperiolat on Jan 17, 2021 12:53:12 GMT -5
Had my mind blown a few minutes ago by this factoid: Paul Bettany has now been in the first project of each phase of the MCU: Voicing JARVIS in Iron Man and Iron Man 3, Vision in Captain America: Civil War and WandaVision. Don’t 12 years go by in a blink? It’s often stated - and I tend to agree - that he was the biggest omission from the Endgame credits. He should’ve had a cameo just so he could be included with the rest of the cast. Technically, I agree. Logistics are tricky though with Wanda... well... Tony had bigger mournings then Vision, so that leaves really Steve and he was mourning EVERYONE.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jan 17, 2021 14:11:53 GMT -5
The only down side of this show so far is that it once again reveals how stupid Age of Ultron killing off Quicksilver was. Wanda's gone mad over the death of a robot, but her own brother dying is practically forgotten? {Spoiler}{Spoiler} and with the kids coming, we really could see Mephisto and potentially she'll really snap and end up the big bad herself There are differences though: 1) Piotr had a role in his own death due to furthering Ultron’s plans before turning on him. Vision was a straight-up victim. 2) Wanda actively killed Vision, at his behest, to save everyone, only for that personally devastating choice to be rendered completely moot. 3) Part of the reason that she didn’t lose it after Piotr’s death was that Vision was there to support her. His death took that support away. 4) We don’t yet know why this is all happening. This could be a timing matter and could easily have been pulled after Piotr’s death had the Big Bad been prepared to do so at the time. 5) Alternatively, Wanda may have needed to grow in her powers before these events could have occurred.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 17, 2021 17:12:16 GMT -5
The only down side of this show so far is that it once again reveals how stupid Age of Ultron killing off Quicksilver was. Wanda's gone mad over the death of a robot, but her own brother dying is practically forgotten? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} and with the kids coming, we really could see Mephisto and potentially she'll really snap and end up the big bad herself There are differences though: 1) Piotr had a role in his own death due to furthering Ultron’s plans before turning on him. Vision was a straight-up victim. 2) Wanda actively killed Vision, at his behest, to save everyone, only for that personally devastating choice to be rendered completely moot. 3) Part of the reason that she didn’t lose it after Piotr’s death was that Vision was there to support her. His death took that support away. 4) We don’t yet know why this is all happening. This could be a timing matter and could easily have been pulled after Piotr’s death had the Big Bad been prepared to do so at the time. 5) Alternatively, Wanda may have needed to grow in her powers before these events could have occurred. And from a real world standpoint, IIRC Marvel and Fox came to an agreement that while they could both use Wanda and Pietro, each would choose one and use them going forward. Fox simply made Wanda a kid and ignored her after one appearance, but Marvel couldn't really do that.
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Post by britishbulldog on Jan 17, 2021 21:07:50 GMT -5
I love this show
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jan 17, 2021 21:19:43 GMT -5
I'm impressed with how long they commit to the bit. Like, someone could do a supercut knocking off only about three minutes or so from the first two episodes combined and play them as straight sitcom parodies. They're being very patient but also establishing this being the accepted reality. Don't know where it's going, I'm glad to say. Yeah, the commitment to the motifs and traits of the shows, time periods is all pretty impeccable and impressive. Credit to Olsen, Bettany and people behind the scenes putting it together. As well as the overall direction entirely. Very ballsy. I appreciate the risk-taking even if it’s a bit slow. The teases of “shit-hitting-the-wall” keeps me hooked and committed to watching the whole thing. Also I love Debra Jo Rupp. So good at the sitcom shtick. Woman seems timeless.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 17, 2021 21:33:13 GMT -5
The only down side of this show so far is that it once again reveals how stupid Age of Ultron killing off Quicksilver was. Wanda's gone mad over the death of a robot, but her own brother dying is practically forgotten? {Spoiler}{Spoiler} and with the kids coming, we really could see Mephisto and potentially she'll really snap and end up the big bad herself I don’t think she’s forgotten Piotr though. While they may have not mentioned him too much due to Fox using him more, his loss looms just as large as that of Vision and their parents. It’ll be touched upon in the series guaranteed. That and it’s all just one more tragedy that’ll push her over the edge in the end... {Spoiler}...because if Mephisto is involved and takes her kids...yeeaaaaahhhh....Her parents, Piotr, Vision and now her kids? All of that grief is going to finally bring us the Scarlet Witch. How pissed is she going to be that she’s willing to go straight into the depths of Hell with Strange to kick the living hell out of that Big Red asshole?
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jan 17, 2021 22:41:59 GMT -5
The only down side of this show so far is that it once again reveals how stupid Age of Ultron killing off Quicksilver was. Wanda's gone mad over the death of a robot, but her own brother dying is practically forgotten? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} and with the kids coming, we really could see Mephisto and potentially she'll really snap and end up the big bad herself I don’t think she’s forgotten Piotr though. While they may have not mentioned him too much due to Fox using him more, his loss looms just as large as that of Vision and their parents. It’ll be touched upon in the series guaranteed. That and it’s all just one more tragedy that’ll push her over the edge in the end... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}...because if Mephisto is involved and takes her kids...yeeaaaaahhhh....Her parents, Piotr, Vision and now her kids? All of that grief is going to finally bring us the Scarlet Witch. How pissed is she going to be that she’s willing to go straight into the depths of Hell with Strange to kick the living hell out of that Big Red asshole? {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Piotr is Colossus, Pietro is Quicksilver
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 17, 2021 22:50:10 GMT -5
I don’t think she’s forgotten Piotr though. While they may have not mentioned him too much due to Fox using him more, his loss looms just as large as that of Vision and their parents. It’ll be touched upon in the series guaranteed. That and it’s all just one more tragedy that’ll push her over the edge in the end... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}...because if Mephisto is involved and takes her kids...yeeaaaaahhhh....Her parents, Piotr, Vision and now her kids? All of that grief is going to finally bring us the Scarlet Witch. How pissed is she going to be that she’s willing to go straight into the depths of Hell with Strange to kick the living hell out of that Big Red asshole? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Piotr is Colossus, Pietro is Quicksilver And evil spellcheck is King.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 18, 2021 0:39:49 GMT -5
Interesting theory that I think might have some meat to it... {Spoiler}...what if Dottie is the debut of Clea being used by whoever the villain ends up being? Clea is already supposed to debut in Dr. Strange 2./spoiler]
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Post by Legion on Jan 18, 2021 14:27:38 GMT -5
The only down side of this show so far is that it once again reveals how stupid Age of Ultron killing off Quicksilver was. Wanda's gone mad over the death of a robot, but her own brother dying is practically forgotten? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} and with the kids coming, we really could see Mephisto and potentially she'll really snap and end up the big bad herself I don’t think she’s forgotten Piotr though. While they may have not mentioned him too much due to Fox using him more, his loss looms just as large as that of Vision and their parents. It’ll be touched upon in the series guaranteed. That and it’s all just one more tragedy that’ll push her over the edge in the end... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}...because if Mephisto is involved and takes her kids...yeeaaaaahhhh....Her parents, Piotr, Vision and now her kids? All of that grief is going to finally bring us the Scarlet Witch. How pissed is she going to be that she’s willing to go straight into the depths of Hell with Strange to kick the living hell out of that Big Red asshole? {Spoiler} I saw some people suggesting Quicksilver might return in this series for at least an episode and that it's all been kept a secret. Now that the rights are back, there is no reason for him to stay dead outside of any MCU decree that dead means dead.
I also don't know that Wanda is coming out of all this the hero. I think 'Darker Than Scarlet' might end up being worth a re-read. It's a story form West Coast Avengers that set up the whole 'Wanda is actually stupidly powerful and totally insane' that Bendis used later on, that a lot of people forgot existed because they wanted to rag on Bendis for 'ruining' Wanda. It also features Immortus, one of the 'faces' of Kang, manipulating Wanda for his own ends. I think Strange will have to climb the Mountains of her Madness before anyone does anything with Mephisto...
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Post by James Fabiano on Jan 18, 2021 19:22:45 GMT -5
I don’t think she’s forgotten Piotr though. While they may have not mentioned him too much due to Fox using him more, his loss looms just as large as that of Vision and their parents. It’ll be touched upon in the series guaranteed. That and it’s all just one more tragedy that’ll push her over the edge in the end... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}...because if Mephisto is involved and takes her kids...yeeaaaaahhhh....Her parents, Piotr, Vision and now her kids? All of that grief is going to finally bring us the Scarlet Witch. How pissed is she going to be that she’s willing to go straight into the depths of Hell with Strange to kick the living hell out of that Big Red asshole? {Spoiler}{Spoiler} I saw some people suggesting Quicksilver might return in this series for at least an episode and that it's all been kept a secret. Now that the rights are back, there is no reason for him to stay dead outside of any MCU decree that dead means dead.
I also don't know that Wanda is coming out of all this the hero. I think 'Darker Than Scarlet' might end up being worth a re-read. It's a story form West Coast Avengers that set up the whole 'Wanda is actually stupidly powerful and totally insane' that Bendis used later on, that a lot of people forgot existed because they wanted to rag on Bendis for 'ruining' Wanda. It also features Immortus, one of the 'faces' of Kang, manipulating Wanda for his own ends. I think Strange will have to climb the Mountains of her Madness before anyone does anything with Mephisto... {Spoiler}But then, which Quicksilver?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 18, 2021 19:26:41 GMT -5
Saw a thing where apparently Evan Peter's is confirmed. So that'll be interesting and weird.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jan 18, 2021 19:50:45 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} I saw some people suggesting Quicksilver might return in this series for at least an episode and that it's all been kept a secret. Now that the rights are back, there is no reason for him to stay dead outside of any MCU decree that dead means dead.
I also don't know that Wanda is coming out of all this the hero. I think 'Darker Than Scarlet' might end up being worth a re-read. It's a story form West Coast Avengers that set up the whole 'Wanda is actually stupidly powerful and totally insane' that Bendis used later on, that a lot of people forgot existed because they wanted to rag on Bendis for 'ruining' Wanda. It also features Immortus, one of the 'faces' of Kang, manipulating Wanda for his own ends. I think Strange will have to climb the Mountains of her Madness before anyone does anything with Mephisto... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}But then, which Quicksilver?
{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheOtherDarrin
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 18, 2021 20:07:30 GMT -5
Saw a thing where apparently Evan Peter's is confirmed. So that'll be interesting and weird. I mean, we've known he's gonna appear for like a year now. The question is who is he gonna be playing?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 22:23:45 GMT -5
I really hope Peter's is not playing Quicksilver because while the first slow motion run epic was great it became so overplayed to include it in everyone of his appearances going forward and also because I just prefer Aarons Quicksilver because his iteration was far closer to his comicbook self.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 8:45:57 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} I saw some people suggesting Quicksilver might return in this series for at least an episode and that it's all been kept a secret. Now that the rights are back, there is no reason for him to stay dead outside of any MCU decree that dead means dead.
I also don't know that Wanda is coming out of all this the hero. I think 'Darker Than Scarlet' might end up being worth a re-read. It's a story form West Coast Avengers that set up the whole 'Wanda is actually stupidly powerful and totally insane' that Bendis used later on, that a lot of people forgot existed because they wanted to rag on Bendis for 'ruining' Wanda. It also features Immortus, one of the 'faces' of Kang, manipulating Wanda for his own ends. I think Strange will have to climb the Mountains of her Madness before anyone does anything with Mephisto... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}But then, which Quicksilver?
{Spoiler}Why not both? Feels like that sort of quirky thing would fit in quite well on this show.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 19, 2021 10:15:29 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 15:03:46 GMT -5
I really hope Peter's is not playing Quicksilver because while the first slow motion run epic was great it became so overplayed to include it in everyone of his appearances going forward and also because I just prefer Aarons Quicksilver because his iteration was far closer to his comicbook self. They were damned if they did and damned if they didn't. If you don't do a Quicksilver scene like that, half the audience will say "why didn't they do that again?" and if you do it every movie, the other half of the fans will say it's the "same old shit."
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