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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 8, 2021 0:28:51 GMT -5
Here is one silver lining about AEW. On Wednesday they'll probably play down the ring exploding, how it was a dud and go from there. Its extremely unlikely they are just going to pretend that the ring actually exploded and Mox is close to death. Easiest solution I can think up on the fly: Kingston cuts a promo where he says he stayed lying down like that because he realized he was crying over Mox, and couldn't face allowing the world to see shedding tears, so he sort of played dead or something equivalent. Can even turn it into "Omega, you rigged that explosion to be weak, and I blame you for bringing that side of me out...but now that people have seen it, yes, I did come out thinking I'd be saving my friend, so maybe I owe you for making me realize that."
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Post by Dub H on Mar 8, 2021 0:29:53 GMT -5
And honestly, that's another part of it: Wight mentioned the signing less than a week ago, for a PPV built around the Mox/Omega match, not around the signing. The signing was a side dish to the main course, and was pretty much treated as such from the start, which was a strong indicator we weren't getting Punk/Cena/etc. Like, I dunno man, I got a fun battle royal, a top shelf joshi match, Miro revealed as an increasingly unhinged sociopath, Maki-@#$%in'-Itoh, Sting getting to look cool in wrestling again, and Mox and Omega putting on a banger before an unfortunate special effects flop. But a 47 year old a lot of people like signed, so now it's 2010 TNA and WCW 2.0 up in here for some people. 'K. Don't mistake me, I did think the first half of the tag title match needed a little more storytelling before it picked up in the second half, I did think the ladder match was unevenly paced and ran a little long, that they shouldn't have had commentary over the cinematic match, and again I felt bad seeing the kaboom not go off right at the end. Nobody has any issues with criticisms, and even saying "I'm personally disappointed it was Christian, he doesn't excite me" or whatever is perfectly fine and understandable. I'm not the biggest Christian mark, so it didn't exactly send me doing cartwheels, either. But there's a line between "I didn't like something" or "something went wrong and I'm going to have a criticism or a joke about it" and coming off like you want to make watching wrestling a miserable experience for others. Way too many of us crossed that tonight, and it's making me really reconsider how we handle live threads around here, in general. I don't watch much WWE, so I can only imagine what those are like right now, and I don't like what I'm picturing. I think the overall show had some hits and misses which is def going to sour some people Not AEW best effort but they put the effort forward if that make sense. As I keep saying, AEW and by extension its fans def need to roll with some jokes that's going to come and not take crazy offense to everything They will be fine. This isn't TNA or WCW 2.0 but they also have to realize that a target is on their back and the honeymoon period is over. Christian is serviceable and will fit in nicely. If he didn't wrestle at the Rumble it probably would have felt a lot bigger too but maybe that helped him with a contract Hey at least here I didnt see anyone taking offense on saying the ending sucked when the explosion just was really disappointing, the issues is with the peoople that call doom on it all.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 8, 2021 0:30:18 GMT -5
I expect a lot of jokes at that ending's expense in either the next BTE or the week after that.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 8, 2021 0:30:46 GMT -5
Again for the record I just had ridiculously high expectations for the show and felt a lot of the things that didn't hit were the good idea in theory, bad in execution.
From a match standpoint? It was a solid show and the only result I didn't agree with was Sky winning the ladder match. I credit doing things differently and I like that AEW does different things to get guys shots at titles or to give guys shine.
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Post by RKTaker on Mar 8, 2021 0:31:08 GMT -5
Dude you were digging at everything tonight and frankly it got tiring, I'm not questioning your AEW fanhood but maybe if you didn't like the show or felt it wasn't worth the fifty dollars, stepping out of the thread is better then going back and forth with people who did like the show? Or maybe, let's roll with history off the board and let people enjoy posting their opinions, positive or negative. To be completely honest this shit is why I've all but given up on discussion of the shows, people's obsession with them destroys any attempts to have a good time actually giving their opinions. God forbid you find something about AEW you didn't enjoy or something about Raw you did, it doesn't matter because it has become nothing but a ticket for people to shit on your opinion. It's not f***ing fun to watch a show with you guys and gals knowing that just one post will blows up your notifications with people spending more time tearing you down than watching the show. Now, I'll go back to acting like these threads doesn't exist for 99% for time. i’m right there with ya, i realize i’m part of the problem sometimes too but man it gets tiring arguing with people about certain things especially about wrestling like it’s not really something people should be getting worked up over yet it still happens i think i’m gonna take a break at least from the live threads for quite a while
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Post by RKTaker on Mar 8, 2021 0:32:21 GMT -5
Here is one silver lining about AEW. On Wednesday they'll probably play down the ring exploding, how it was a dud and go from there. Its extremely unlikely they are just going to pretend that the ring actually exploded and Mox is close to death. Easiest solution I can think up on the fly: Kingston cuts a promo where he says he stayed lying down like that because he realized he was crying over Mox, and couldn't face allowing the world to see shedding tears, so he sort of played dead or something equivalent. Can even turn it into "Omega, you rigged that explosion to be weak, and I blame you for bringing that side of me out...but now that people have seen it, yes, I did come out thinking I'd be saving my friend, so maybe I owe you for making me realize that." i would love to see Kingston and B&B vs Omega and the Good Brothers
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 8, 2021 0:32:37 GMT -5
I think the overall show had some hits and misses which is def going to sour some people Not AEW best effort but they put the effort forward if that make sense. As I keep saying, AEW and by extension its fans def need to roll with some jokes that's going to come and not take crazy offense to everything They will be fine. This isn't TNA or WCW 2.0 but they also have to realize that a target is on their back and the honeymoon period is over. Christian is serviceable and will fit in nicely. If he didn't wrestle at the Rumble it probably would have felt a lot bigger too but maybe that helped him with a contract Hey at least here I didnt see anyone taking offense on saying the ending sucked when the explosion just was really disappointing, the issues is with the peoople that call doom on it all. Which is ridiculous AEW is not going falter after one average show. Yes, you want all your PPV to be hitters since you only do a couple but they adapt from their mistakes That explosion will live forever with Homicide and D'Von getting thrown into the cage. BUT they can write their own narrative since Omega is an over the top cartoon villain anyway You experiment and you live and learn. They probably won't try some shit like that again and learn less is more
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Post by sfvega on Mar 8, 2021 0:33:44 GMT -5
Christian is a goofy lackey in WWE kayfabe alone. And I'm not even big on the guy, but your short selling of him is reminiscent of Vince himself. You ignore that I also said that Christian has proved himself at a main event level with TNA. How I also said that if Christian is healthy he is a great guy to have. As a surprise showing up he is a great get. But no he should not have been hyped up as a big surprise. Christian as a surprise debut stopping his old rival Matt Hardy from cheating? Likely a great moment. He'll Christian just showing up after a match to observe unannounced would likely have been a great moment. But that is not what happened They hyped someone up for less than a week, with statements that were true, and some people are disappointed because the possibilities drove people to get ridiculously large expectations. Not sure what AEW did wrong there. That ending? Sucked. Hyping signing Christian? Great move, I don't understand how anyone had a problem with that at all. I hate the Big Show signing and they just released it.
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Post by anglarite on Mar 8, 2021 0:33:46 GMT -5
Between Revolution and Wandavision, im not sure who botched their ending worse. Neither, Game of Thrones is still on top, closely followed by Lost...
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 8, 2021 0:37:04 GMT -5
Hey at least here I didnt see anyone taking offense on saying the ending sucked when the explosion just was really disappointing, the issues is with the peoople that call doom on it all. Which is ridiculous AEW is not going falter after one average show. Yes, you want all your PPV to be hitters since you only do a couple but they adapt from their mistakes That explosion will live forever with Homicide and D'Von getting thrown into the cage. BUT they can write their own narrative since Omega is an over the top cartoon villain anyway You experiment and you live and learn. They probably won't try some shit like that again and learn less is more It's a built in failsafe Omega build the stupid ring so the explosions not going off were his own undoing He tried to kill Mox and failed, again.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 8, 2021 0:37:56 GMT -5
Anyway, I'd call that AEW's third worst PPV show after All Out 2020 and Full Gear 2019. Still a good show for the most part, but there were definitely some uneven parts. The worst offender I think was the ladder match with all the usual cliches that go into that match and the deflating finish. The tag title match was also surprisingly mediocre for the first half or so. I also would've pulled the trigger on Ryo winning the women's championship, but at least Shida looks to be involved with a legitimate angle going forward so there's some progress on that front.
Besides all that? A lot of good matches. Commentary got in the way of the Sting/Darby vs. Team Taz match but I don't think it ruined it. Hangman vs. Hardy was a great example of how you can have excellent storytelling in a match to make it feel important despite the lack of championships on the line. Pretty happy to see Ethan Page and Christian Cage on the AEW roster. The Buy-In match was excellent and better than a few of the PPV card matches. Tag-Team Casino Battle Royale was alright and I'm probably more interested in seeing where this QT Marshall thing is going than I really should. And on top of that, we had a real showcase for Miro's viciousness. Something I've been wanting to see out of him for months.
The discussion about the main event reminds me too much of the Mass Effect 3 ending discourse for all the wrong reasons.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 8, 2021 0:39:52 GMT -5
Well it's official canon now, Omega f***ed up the explosion
He built the shit and it failed, lol
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Post by sportatorium on Mar 8, 2021 0:41:21 GMT -5
Every wrestling company is going to have a few hiccups and it’s usually how they respond to the hiccups that defines them. The end was a terrible botch after a crazy match and they are under some pressure to move forward in a way that people can forget it.
The Christian signing is good for AEW. They knew well enough that speculation would run wild for Brock or Punk. If they hadn’t had Wight tease the announcement, and Christian just made the appearance on the show, it would feel like a much bigger deal.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 8, 2021 0:45:02 GMT -5
"Why is Eddie selling?"
I think I'd be selling too if I thought I was gonna blow up and didn't...
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Mar 8, 2021 0:45:49 GMT -5
You ignore that I also said that Christian has proved himself at a main event level with TNA. How I also said that if Christian is healthy he is a great guy to have. As a surprise showing up he is a great get. But no he should not have been hyped up as a big surprise. Christian as a surprise debut stopping his old rival Matt Hardy from cheating? Likely a great moment. He'll Christian just showing up after a match to observe unannounced would likely have been a great moment. But that is not what happened They hyped someone up for less than a week, with statements that were true, and some people are disappointed because the possibilities drove people to get ridiculously large expectations. Not sure what AEW did wrong there. That ending? Sucked. Hyping signing Christian? Great move, I don't understand how anyone had a problem with that at all. I hate the Big Show signing and they just released it. If you’ve watched WandaVision...and see a lot of the online discourse after the finale went up on Friday....then you know what happens when people convince themselves that internet THEORIES are, in fact pre-determined reality/inevitable outcomes. Both that and this are reasons 1346 & 1347 why I both love and hate the internet
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Post by Welfare Willis on Mar 8, 2021 0:47:09 GMT -5
Every wrestling company is going to have a few hiccups and it’s usually how they respond to the hiccups that defines them. The end was a terrible botch after a crazy match and they are under some pressure to move forward in a way that people can forget it. The Christian signing is good for AEW. They knew well enough that speculation would run wild for Brock or Punk. If they hadn’t had Wight tease the announcement, and Christian just made the appearance on the show, it would feel like a much bigger deal. Yeah, there's something to be said lately of hype and managing expectations for both fans and companies.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Mar 8, 2021 0:49:27 GMT -5
Well it's official canon now, Omega f***ed up the explosion He built the shit and it failed, lol Mox is the best. Full stop.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 8, 2021 0:54:36 GMT -5
Honestly Khan coming out in good spirits and not even paying attention to the fans who want him to be pissed and act like this is the beginning of the death of AEW is the best result from this
They can make a storyline out of it, they can make fun of themselves and they won't be conceded about it. BTE will be a blast this week
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Post by Chiral on Mar 8, 2021 0:57:05 GMT -5
In hindsight they're REALLY lucky they had Kenny build the ring in canon because that is a really good out for the f***up.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 8, 2021 0:58:12 GMT -5
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