Royal Rumble moments that need to stop

[john84]

Yeah the whole attacking and eliminating someone after being eliminated needs to go, always makes my eyes roll when that happens.  The whole stopping someone from being eliminated by attacking someone is dumb as well.  

I'm pretty much fine with all the other tropes if I'm honest though.

[CMWaters]

Jan 31, 2021 4:22:14 GMT -5 Heartbreaker said:

I swear Dolph Ziggler has been entry 1 for 10 f***ing years.

To set the record straight, here is every number Dolph has drawn:

2009: #27
2010: #1
2011: #31 (was the 40 Man Rumble, and he was in a World Title match earlier)
2012: #18
2013: #1
2014: #12
2015: #30
2016: #28
2017: #24
2018: #30
2019: #28
2020: #19

So yeah, most times he's drawn a number after the mid-way point, and twice has drawn both #1 and #30.

[Heartbreaker]

Jan 31, 2021 8:22:32 GMT -5 CMWaters said:

Jan 31, 2021 4:22:14 GMT -5 Heartbreaker said:

I swear Dolph Ziggler has been entry 1 for 10 f***ing years.

To set the record straight, here is every number Dolph has drawn:

2009: #27
2010: #1
2011: #31 (was the 40 Man Rumble, and he was in a World Title match earlier)
2012: #18
2013: #1
2014: #12
2015: #30
2016: #28
2017: #24
2018: #30
2019: #28
2020: #19

So yeah, most times he's drawn a number after the mid-way point, and twice has drawn both #1 and #30.

...Huh. For some reason my brain thought he was number 1 a bunch of times. Completely forgot he was 30 in 2015, the worst rumble ever.

[MiLB Fan]

Jan 31, 2021 8:13:48 GMT -5 Nr1Humanoid said:

I hope they skip the Royal Rumble number stats promo video they do every year.

They made one, so I assume they’ll use it tonight.

[Squirrel Master]

Random guy sitting on his ass in the corner taking a breather.

The lame attempts at muscling someone over the rope while looking elsewhere.

[Pushed to the Moon]

Jan 31, 2021 4:19:45 GMT -5 thehottag said:

I3) Pointing at the Wrestlemania sign. Why. Why us it even there? You don't see a Survivor Series sign hanging at Summerslam, do you?

This trope gets exponentially worse the more people do it. One person who has just won the Rumble? I can just about stomach it. But when there are 2 people actually still wrestling it drives me nuts. Guess what, numbnuts? Pointing at a sign won't get you to Wrestlemania! Beating your opponent, who is right in front of you, will! Pay attention!

They do it every year too, making the whole thing contrived to the point of ridiculousness. Hate, hate, hate it.

This always annoys me about the Mania sign too. It's literally only there to point at which is so corny. I was watching some doc on the Network and it cut to an arena and the caption at the bottom was like "Royal Rumble 2018" or whatever but the first shot is the Mania sign. I'd be pretty confused or assume it was some sort of editing mistake if I wasn't a fan and knew the trope.

[Citizen Snips]

Jan 30, 2021 22:58:47 GMT -5 GuyOfOwnage said:

Acting like size gives you any sort of advantage. It was fun in the early days of the Rumble where everyone would team up and try to eliminate someone like Andre, but they've had too many giants and hosses thrown out effortlessly over the years. No one buys them having any kind of advantage.

You've had one super heavyweight winner (Yokozuna), two giants (Big John Studd and the Undertaker) and three hosses (Hulk Hogan twice, Brock Lesnar, Batista twice). That's enough winners to still build them as a threat, I think.

And weirdly, while guys ganged up on Andre in traditional battle royals he was a very easy elimination in the Rumble. Eliminated himself in 1989, only took Ax & Smash to get him out in 1990.

[CMWaters]

Jan 31, 2021 9:49:38 GMT -5 Citizen Snips said:

Jan 30, 2021 22:58:47 GMT -5 GuyOfOwnage said:

Acting like size gives you any sort of advantage. It was fun in the early days of the Rumble where everyone would team up and try to eliminate someone like Andre, but they've had too many giants and hosses thrown out effortlessly over the years. No one buys them having any kind of advantage.

You've had one super heavyweight winner (Yokozuna), two giants (Big John Studd and the Undertaker) and three hosses (Hulk Hogan twice, Brock Lesnar, Batista twice). That's enough winners to still build them as a threat, I think.

Also Braun in that 50 man one a few years back.

[The Kevstaaa]

Forced staredowns in an attempt to be epic. Rock/Austin in 01 and Hogan/Warrior in 90 are the iconic ones. Stuff like Edge/Orton or Edge/AJ worked.

But nobody cares that Nia Jax & Tamina are face to face.

[CMWaters]

Jan 31, 2021 10:35:09 GMT -5 The Kevstaaa said:

Forced staredowns in an attempt to be epic. Rock/Austin in 01 and Hogan/Warrior in 90 are the iconic ones. Stuff like Edge/Orton or Edge/AJ worked.

But nobody cares that Nia Jax & Tamina are face to face.

*Remembers when Kofi/Cena got a pop when they had the staredown...but then Orton/Cena got nothing.

[4real]

Jan 31, 2021 8:26:01 GMT -5 Heartbreaker said:

Jan 31, 2021 8:22:32 GMT -5 CMWaters said:

To set the record straight, here is every number Dolph has drawn:

2009: #27
2010: #1
2011: #31 (was the 40 Man Rumble, and he was in a World Title match earlier)
2012: #18
2013: #1
2014: #12
2015: #30
2016: #28
2017: #24
2018: #30
2019: #28
2020: #19

So yeah, most times he's drawn a number after the mid-way point, and twice has drawn both #1 and #30.

...Huh. For some reason my brain thought he was number 1 a bunch of times. Completely forgot he was 30 in 2015, the worst rumble ever.

He was also number 2 in the Greatest Royal Rumble so he has started 3 Rumbles in total and been Number 30 in 2 of them.

[Deleted]

People lying around outside the ring is a cliche they've been relying on longer than I thought apparently. Near the end of the 2008 one and Hornswoggle and Batista both do it for a decent chunk of the match and Umaga also briefly does it.

[koreycaskets]

Here a new problem that next year NEEDS to stop.

Stop telling us any of the entrant numbers ahead of time. Let all of them be a surprise especially 1 or 30.


Vince does not like us having fun things.

[msc]

Jan 31, 2021 8:26:01 GMT -5 Heartbreaker said:

Jan 31, 2021 8:22:32 GMT -5 CMWaters said:

To set the record straight, here is every number Dolph has drawn:

2009: #27
2010: #1
2011: #31 (was the 40 Man Rumble, and he was in a World Title match earlier)
2012: #18
2013: #1
2014: #12
2015: #30
2016: #28
2017: #24
2018: #30
2019: #28
2020: #19

So yeah, most times he's drawn a number after the mid-way point, and twice has drawn both #1 and #30.

...Huh. For some reason my brain thought he was number 1 a bunch of times. Completely forgot he was 30 in 2015, the worst rumble ever.

Ironically 2015 is the one rumble it'd have made sense for him to be #1, as the whole build up was "Ziggler has stamina and conditioning and can out last everyone" - then they made him 30 and last 90 seconds. Killed him stone dead.

[The Thread Barbi]

Jan 31, 2021 11:46:20 GMT -5 msc said:

Jan 31, 2021 8:26:01 GMT -5 Heartbreaker said:

...Huh. For some reason my brain thought he was number 1 a bunch of times. Completely forgot he was 30 in 2015, the worst rumble ever.

Ironically 2015 is the one rumble it'd have made sense for him to be #1, as the whole build up was "Ziggler has stamina and conditioning and can out last everyone" - then they made him 30 and last 90 seconds. Killed him stone dead.

That's what Amy Schumer said...

[Deleted]

Jan 31, 2021 2:59:44 GMT -5 Mid-Carder said:

It's not really what you asked but there are way too many multiple-Rumble winners.

I will give it that in recent years when it has happened it has generally been awhile removed from when they first won. Batista had a 10 year gap, Orton had an 8 year one, and Triple H had 13 years (granted you also had Cena doing it twice in four years). It's a lot better than Austin winning three of them in the span of five years.

[Deleted]

Jan 31, 2021 11:46:20 GMT -5 msc said:

Jan 31, 2021 8:26:01 GMT -5 Heartbreaker said:

...Huh. For some reason my brain thought he was number 1 a bunch of times. Completely forgot he was 30 in 2015, the worst rumble ever.

Ironically 2015 is the one rumble it'd have made sense for him to be #1, as the whole build up was "Ziggler has stamina and conditioning and can out last everyone" - then they made him 30 and last 90 seconds. Killed him stone dead.

Being fair I'm pretty sure 2015 was specifically crafted with the aim of being the shittiest match imaginable. Absolutely nothing about its structure makes sense for any reason except to say, "We do not give a f*** what you want, you get Roman Reigns."

Really it's basically the exact same match as the Extreme Elimination Chamber. Doing everything possible to shit all over all the people the crowd actually likes to try to get them to cheer for the guy they don't when it was never, ever, EVER going to work.

Honestly if Roman HAD to win, what they really should have done was get him in there early, have him go on a tear just wrecking people all throughout like he did the year prior, have it come down to him and Bryan, and have them have an epic 10 minute climactic showdown where Bryan made him look like an absolute star the whole time until eventually losing. He would've gotten booed in the moment but it wouldn't have ruined the whole match because the crowd would still be invested in it and it would've at least made Roman look good instead of like some asshole who benefited from Kane and Big Show doing all the work for him.

[mcstoklasa]

I wonder if they'll ever stop the pointing at the sign shite

[Deleted]

I see that these have already been posted, but:

People who aren't in the match (or were already eliminated) shouldn't be able to eliminate any of the current participants. It's fine having them run in to get revenge on an enemy, but if they throw them over the top rope it shouldn't count.

Also, any wrestler that goes to the outside through the middle or bottom rope should be given a 10 or 20 count to get back in or they're eliminated.

[The Kevstaaa]

Jan 31, 2021 10:40:46 GMT -5 CMWaters said:

Jan 31, 2021 10:35:09 GMT -5 The Kevstaaa said:

Forced staredowns in an attempt to be epic. Rock/Austin in 01 and Hogan/Warrior in 90 are the iconic ones. Stuff like Edge/Orton or Edge/AJ worked.

But nobody cares that Nia Jax & Tamina are face to face.

*Remembers when Kofi/Cena got a pop when they had the staredown...but then Orton/Cena got nothing.

It's wild that WWE never ran a major Kofi/Cena program. I did a fantasy booking of WWE after Fox acquired Smackdown and kept the title on Kofi a bit longer but after he dropped, I booked him and Cena at WM 36.