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Post by Shark on Feb 18, 2021 1:26:43 GMT -5
I'm just done with all of this. Literally none of it is worth the head ache. Peace. I wasn't even trying to be hard to deal with here dude, but like that is the issue, and it's a major one. These guys go over scripts and booking the entire day, for hours, they know what's going on because they have to be in position for when they're next and ready. The only secrets they usually keep from talent are fun surprise debuts. How do you not tell people about a doctor/stretcher job to end the show if it's a work?? That's a major screwup on the heads of NXT's part, there is no tapdancing around that, if any other company did the same thing it'd be the same issue so I'm also not trying to be "ARGH WWE ARGH" here. It's one thing if it's fans misinterpreting, selling the gravity of an injury is what you want them to do. When the wrestlers themselves are misinterpreting, you did a shit job at your job... Do the angle, fine, don't get your wrestlers worked up over something that could literally have been fixed with a single sentence of "Hey the medical stuff/stretch job for Kyle's a work tonight." They probably did know about the stretcher job beforehand. NXT has been over for a few hours already and this story has only blown up in the past hour or so. Some of the wrestlers who were there likely saw the tweets and jumped to conclusions because people don't generally think before tweeting right away. There's zero proof WWE was working the locker room too. There's more evidence that points to the wrestlers seeing the fan tweets and freaking out over it.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Feb 18, 2021 1:29:11 GMT -5
So Kyle does a stretcher job and sells it really well and Finn and Hunter both play their parts as concerned about him, some random fan says he suffered a seizure and now this is WWE's fault? I mean, I'm all for blaming WWE for stuff when they deserve it, but it really doesn't seem like that's the case. It sounds like they did a good job of doing the angle. Honestly my main takeaway from it is damn Kyle why are you so good at selling it's kinda scary
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Feb 18, 2021 1:30:51 GMT -5
So Kyle does a stretcher job and sells it really well and Finn and Hunter both play their parts as concerned about him, some random fan says he suffered a seizure and now this is WWE's fault? I mean, I'm all for blaming WWE for stuff when they deserve it, but it really doesn't seem like that's the case. It sounds like they did a good job of doing the angle. Really. This situation is just f***ing ridiculous. Talent in bubbles so only a skeleton crew there, Dakota had gone home etc, fans play doctor and get worked over a stretcher job. Dakota doesn't know because she's not there and the people who are there are busy at work. WWE are not at fault here, once again the fault is with everyone being a detective, a doctor or whatever the situation requires, on social media.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Feb 18, 2021 1:34:46 GMT -5
Can we possibly get a title change on this?
“KOR does stretcher job, fans play doctor (WRONG)”
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 18, 2021 1:35:55 GMT -5
All I'm saying is that WWE should be more proactive about correcting this kind of stuff both with their talent and on their social media.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 18, 2021 1:37:13 GMT -5
So Kyle does a stretcher job and sells it really well and Finn and Hunter both play their parts as concerned about him, some random fan says he suffered a seizure and now this is WWE's fault? I mean, I'm all for blaming WWE for stuff when they deserve it, but it really doesn't seem like that's the case. It sounds like they did a good job of doing the angle. Agreed. WWE ran an angle, it was a fan at ringside that jumped to conclusions and set this mess off, that is no fault of theirs. Hell, I'd wager the tweets from the wrestlers are part of it. I hate that we seem to be at the point that WWE has to kill an angle because one fan poisoned the whole thing. Could they stand to put out kayfabe statement to cover things, yeah, but I don't want to see them talk about her everything is fine and it was Kyle's idea so he could gain some sympathy or some such shit like happened elsewhere tonight. I'll be the first to be glad if the wrestlers knew and this wasn't kept from them, because that was my main gripe, the angle never was and injury angles are commonplace in wrestling. This one with its weird setup and weird reports and the lack of who knew what, is what got people upset. I dont think the entire angle will be ruined by it, even in Kayfabe they can say Kyle is fine but they will have a medical update next week, it's not a big deal. I'm just not a fan of wrestlers thinking their friend might be legit hurt, and I will again, be thrilled if that was never the case. Imo that last part of your statement though? Completely unecessary, like that's just opening the backdoor for more arguments about comparing things that don't need comparison to make this even worse.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 18, 2021 1:44:13 GMT -5
So Kyle does a stretcher job and sells it really well and Finn and Hunter both play their parts as concerned about him, some random fan says he suffered a seizure and now this is WWE's fault? I mean, I'm all for blaming WWE for stuff when they deserve it, but it really doesn't seem like that's the case. It sounds like they did a good job of doing the angle. Honestly my main takeaway from it is damn Kyle why are you so good at selling it's kinda scary The Eddie Kingston school of "Oh shit dude, are you ok??"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 1:52:07 GMT -5
Adam Cole put out an in-character tweet about what he did to Kyle 30 minutes after the show. I’m surprised that right there didn’t give it away that nothing serious happened and it took another hour for it to be fully debunked.
Dakota Kai was the only NXT wrestler who showed any real concern and you can see from her social media that she was already at home when she put out that tweet (she must live real locally to the PC because she had a live segment in the middle of the show) so she wasn’t even backstage at the time. She was probably sitting on the couch browsing Twitter and saw the same report we all saw and got worried.
Who was the person who put out the original video anyway and why did they keep mentioning the word seizure when it was clearly a standard stretcher job angle?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 2:02:50 GMT -5
Honestly my main takeaway from it is damn Kyle why are you so good at selling it's kinda scary The Eddie Kingston school of "Oh shit dude, are you ok??" Sami Zayn graduated with a masters in 2012.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 2:04:15 GMT -5
I'm suddenly reminded of that 2004 Smackdown that had the weird ending where Eddie collapsed (in storyline) due to blood loss from the Judgment Day match I think. I remember just finding that one really uncomfortable as a kid, but I guess luckily Twitter/Twitter scuttlebutt wasn't around back then? How about a few years ago when HHH having a worked concussion during his Curtis Axel match? That aged bad as it was happening... Hell, the Chyna incident during Royal Rumble 2001 comes to mind.
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Post by 3cheers4ramirez on Feb 18, 2021 4:59:27 GMT -5
Really, WWE's kind of at fault here for not releasing a kayfabe statement or something indicating that it's just a storyline. "O'Reilly was sent to the local medical facility after the attack from Cole but any reports of seizures are completely false." That's it. One sentence. Both IRL and kayfabe. Bada bing. This f***ing company, I swear. Mixing real life and kayfabe when it comes to injuries is a terrible idea. "While Glen Jacobs did put Mark Calloway in a casket and set it on fire, the WWF can confirm Mr Calloway's injuries are thought to be non-life threatening." The issue here is wrestlers shouldn't be Tweeting about this stuff unless they actually know what's going on.
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Post by Shark on Feb 18, 2021 6:21:12 GMT -5
Adam Cole put out an in-character tweet about what he did to Kyle 30 minutes after the show. I’m surprised that right there didn’t give it away that nothing serious happened and it took another hour for it to be fully debunked. Dakota Kai was the only NXT wrestler who showed any real concern and you can see from her social media that she was already at home when she put out that tweet (she must live real locally to the PC because she had a live segment in the middle of the show) so she wasn’t even backstage at the time. She was probably sitting on the couch browsing Twitter and saw the same report we all saw and got worried. Who was the person who put out the original video anyway and why did they keep mentioning the word seizure when it was clearly a standard stretcher job angle? It's also not procedure to try and restrain someone having a seizure, which medical staff would know. It was the day of overreaction in wrestling I guess.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Feb 18, 2021 6:44:38 GMT -5
This is some bullshit. You have people in your own company scared about this man's health. At least clue them in. Yikes, this feels very Shawn Michaels 1995 but worse.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 18, 2021 6:48:14 GMT -5
Adam Cole put out an in-character tweet about what he did to Kyle 30 minutes after the show. I’m surprised that right there didn’t give it away that nothing serious happened and it took another hour for it to be fully debunked. Dakota Kai was the only NXT wrestler who showed any real concern and you can see from her social media that she was already at home when she put out that tweet (she must live real locally to the PC because she had a live segment in the middle of the show) so she wasn’t even backstage at the time. She was probably sitting on the couch browsing Twitter and saw the same report we all saw and got worried. Who was the person who put out the original video anyway and why did they keep mentioning the word seizure when it was clearly a standard stretcher job angle? It's also not procedure to try and restrain someone having a seizure, which medical staff would know. It was the day of overreaction in wrestling I guess. People were concerned Kyle was hurt and suffered a legit medical episode, then they were concerned that his friends might have not known it was a work the way some reacted. It was out of concern for the situation that people reacted the way they did I would hope and weren't just trying to be spiteful toward a company.
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Post by Mr Captain Falcon on Feb 18, 2021 7:22:23 GMT -5
I really don't get wrestling fans. Shawn Michaels collapses and you all cry. KOR seizes and you get angry because you finally bought an angle. Do you get mad when someone on a network tv show has a heart attack and dies?
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Post by Push R Truth on Feb 18, 2021 7:59:15 GMT -5
I really don't get wrestling fans. Shawn Michaels collapses and you all cry. KOR seizes and you get angry because you finally bought an angle. Do you get mad when someone on a network tv show has a heart attack and dies? I'll admit I was pissed when they killed off Sweets in Bones. Dude got done dirty!
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Feb 18, 2021 8:09:26 GMT -5
Should have just covered dude in dog food, wouldn’t have been no confusion.
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Post by eJm on Feb 18, 2021 8:14:37 GMT -5
I really don't get wrestling fans. Shawn Michaels collapses and you all cry. KOR seizes and you get angry because you finally bought an angle. Do you get mad when someone on a network tv show has a heart attack and dies? I'll admit I was pissed when they killed off Sweets in Bones. Dude got done dirty! Yeah, let’s not act like stuff like this doesn’t happen across all media for varying reasons
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Post by MrElijah on Feb 18, 2021 8:26:01 GMT -5
I really don't get wrestling fans. Shawn Michaels collapses and you all cry. KOR seizes and you get angry because you finally bought an angle. Do you get mad when someone on a network tv show has a heart attack and dies? I thought we all agreed that Fritz Von Eric was an idiot?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 18, 2021 8:26:58 GMT -5
I really don't get wrestling fans. Shawn Michaels collapses and you all cry. KOR seizes and you get angry because you finally bought an angle. Do you get mad when someone on a network tv show has a heart attack and dies? Once again, no one cared about the angle or doing it, they cared about the fact wrestlers, friends of the person in question, seemed to also be duped into thinking their friend was legit hurt due to a lack of communication in the workplace. Especially with dirtsheets at first going along with the reported seizure/medical problem. With it being after the show ended especially, it added a whole bunch of discourse and confusion on a multitude of levels. Especially when it was In the end I'm just glad Kyle is ok, and I really hope that his friends didn't think something legit bad happened to him at any point. But I'm really not appreciating the "You wrestling fans are overreacting and just angry because they did it so well", like... that ticks me off more than anything. We feel for these guys and girls, we don't want them going through any bullshit, and I just hope they didn't.
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