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Post by 3cheers4ramirez on Feb 18, 2021 8:50:19 GMT -5
It's also not procedure to try and restrain someone having a seizure, which medical staff would know. It was the day of overreaction in wrestling I guess. People were concerned Kyle was hurt and suffered a legit medical episode, then they were concerned that his friends might have not known it was a work the way some reacted. It was out of concern for the situation that people reacted the way they did I would hope and weren't just trying to be spiteful toward a company. It's all just a bit overly hysterical. That people would watch a wrestling show and falsely post on Twitter that someone had a seizure for clout. That a wrestler sitting at home would see that and rush to Tweet about it, rather than find out what actually happened. Then the pearl clutching and f***-this-company towards the WWE, because they didn't immediately clarify that wrestling is fake and people regularly appear more hurt on TV than they actually are. People just need to relax a little.
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Post by sunnytaker on Feb 18, 2021 8:59:53 GMT -5
Adam Cole put out an in-character tweet about what he did to Kyle 30 minutes after the show. I’m surprised that right there didn’t give it away that nothing serious happened and it took another hour for it to be fully debunked. Dakota Kai was the only NXT wrestler who showed any real concern and you can see from her social media that she was already at home when she put out that tweet (she must live real locally to the PC because she had a live segment in the middle of the show) so she wasn’t even backstage at the time. She was probably sitting on the couch browsing Twitter and saw the same report we all saw and got worried. Who was the person who put out the original video anyway and why did they keep mentioning the word seizure when it was clearly a standard stretcher job angle? assuming she's back at the same place she was before she went back to NZ for her visa renewal she does/did share a place in florida with a few other wrestlers so she's probably not too far away.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 18, 2021 9:01:03 GMT -5
People were concerned Kyle was hurt and suffered a legit medical episode, then they were concerned that his friends might have not known it was a work the way some reacted. It was out of concern for the situation that people reacted the way they did I would hope and weren't just trying to be spiteful toward a company. It's all just a bit overly hysterical. That people would watch a wrestling show and falsely post on Twitter that someone had a seizure for clout. That a wrestler sitting at home would see that and rush to Tweet about it, rather than find out what actually happened. Then the pearl clutching and f***-this-company towards the WWE, because they didn't immediately clarify that wrestling is fake and people regularly appear more hurt on TV than they actually are.People just need to relax a little. It was AFTER THE SHOW HAD ENDED. It wasn't something that happened during the show that everyone freaked out about, it was people after the fact saying Kyle seemed to be hurt and it was a seizure, which correlated to his legit diabetes medical condition. There is also zero proof who tweeted it was doing it for Clout as well, but if they did, what an absolutely scummy move of course. You talk about people needing to relax but you're taking shots at people for something that quite honestly people are spinning the context of to make them look and frankly feel like shit for being concerned for a wrestler and their friends, and I have to ask you, who is that helping? This isn't even a WWE thing, it wouldn't have been taken well in any company. Can't we just be glad that in the end Kyle is ok? Because that's really what should matter after all is said and done.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 18, 2021 9:02:32 GMT -5
I’m glad he’s ok and that it was a work. I also don’t think it was necessarily a WWE mistake - two hours to clarify something is not a long time. If it was legit, they’d want to evaluate him, understand what caused a seizure, etc. it’s actually to my knowledge the first time something like this had happened in the social media age. If this was shot in a large stadium of even at Full Sail with the regulars, you’d have more people to point out that they were recording it for WWE digital.
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Post by avenger on Feb 18, 2021 9:18:10 GMT -5
A random fan overreated, and some wrestling journos picked it up, and reported it as true. We can't blame the WWE for that, or for them not clarifying. But the good faith isn't extended because they have played on this stuff so much in the past. I'm suddenly reminded of that 2004 Smackdown that had the weird ending where Eddie collapsed (in storyline) due to blood loss from the Judgment Day match I think. I remember just finding that one really uncomfortable as a kid, but I guess luckily Twitter/Twitter scuttlebutt wasn't around back then? I've wondered if that was real, but they used it for storyline purposes. Not at the time, but years later JBL has said that Eddie was legit struggling for weeks after the Judgment Day match, because of the amount of blood in the match. I was already against blading at that point, but that pretty much sealed the deal for me.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Feb 18, 2021 9:36:36 GMT -5
I was browsing on my phone, and didn't see the full title of the thread b/c my phone sucks, and damn near had a heart attack.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 9:46:02 GMT -5
The ghouls did something ghoulish. Guy has "seizure" during show - it's probably a work. Guy has "seizure" after show - holy crap this might not be a work nah, still a work you stoopid marks.
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Post by 3cheers4ramirez on Feb 18, 2021 9:59:24 GMT -5
It's all just a bit overly hysterical. That people would watch a wrestling show and falsely post on Twitter that someone had a seizure for clout. That a wrestler sitting at home would see that and rush to Tweet about it, rather than find out what actually happened. Then the pearl clutching and f***-this-company towards the WWE, because they didn't immediately clarify that wrestling is fake and people regularly appear more hurt on TV than they actually are.People just need to relax a little. It was AFTER THE SHOW HAD ENDED. It wasn't something that happened during the show that everyone freaked out about, it was people after the fact saying Kyle seemed to be hurt and it was a seizure, which correlated to his legit diabetes medical condition. There is also zero proof who tweeted it was doing it for Clout as well, but if they did, what an absolutely scummy move of course. You talk about people needing to relax but you're taking shots at people for something that quite honestly people are spinning the context of to make them look and frankly feel like shit for being concerned for a wrestler and their friends, and I have to ask you, who is that helping? This isn't even a WWE thing, it wouldn't have been taken well in any company. Can't we just be glad that in the end Kyle is ok? Because that's really what should matter after all is said and done. The person who tweeted it isn't a doctor, and clearly had no idea what was happening. I'm not saying they weren't genuinely mistaken, but in their rush to post it online (for what reason?) they caused people who actually know Kyle to worry unneccesarily. That relates to the original post, the follow up from 'Raj Giri' is obviously completely fabricated.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 18, 2021 10:14:38 GMT -5
It's all just a bit overly hysterical. That people would watch a wrestling show and falsely post on Twitter that someone had a seizure for clout. That a wrestler sitting at home would see that and rush to Tweet about it, rather than find out what actually happened. Then the pearl clutching and f***-this-company towards the WWE, because they didn't immediately clarify that wrestling is fake and people regularly appear more hurt on TV than they actually are.People just need to relax a little. It was AFTER THE SHOW HAD ENDED. It wasn't something that happened during the show that everyone freaked out about, it was people after the fact saying Kyle seemed to be hurt and it was a seizure, which correlated to his legit diabetes medical condition. There is also zero proof who tweeted it was doing it for Clout as well, but if they did, what an absolutely scummy move of course. You talk about people needing to relax but you're taking shots at people for something that quite honestly people are spinning the context of to make them look and frankly feel like shit for being concerned for a wrestler and their friends, and I have to ask you, who is that helping? This isn't even a WWE thing, it wouldn't have been taken well in any company. Can't we just be glad that in the end Kyle is ok? Because that's really what should matter after all is said and done. Of course everyone is happy he’s okay. But I think he’s referring to posts like yours immediately saying it was “clownshoes” on WWE and HHH’s part and a major dropped ball PR-wise.
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Post by edgestar on Feb 18, 2021 11:04:08 GMT -5
I've had seizures, and I will just say that I'm happy that no one has dealt with them, especially during matches.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Feb 18, 2021 11:28:45 GMT -5
It was AFTER THE SHOW HAD ENDED. It wasn't something that happened during the show that everyone freaked out about, it was people after the fact saying Kyle seemed to be hurt and it was a seizure, which correlated to his legit diabetes medical condition. There is also zero proof who tweeted it was doing it for Clout as well, but if they did, what an absolutely scummy move of course. You talk about people needing to relax but you're taking shots at people for something that quite honestly people are spinning the context of to make them look and frankly feel like shit for being concerned for a wrestler and their friends, and I have to ask you, who is that helping? This isn't even a WWE thing, it wouldn't have been taken well in any company. Can't we just be glad that in the end Kyle is ok? Because that's really what should matter after all is said and done. Of course everyone is happy he’s okay. But I think he’s referring to posts like yours immediately saying it was “clownshoes” on WWE and HHH’s part and a major dropped ball PR-wise. It's understandable why some people would feel that way, given WWE's lack of communication to alleviate fears.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 18, 2021 11:33:40 GMT -5
Of course everyone is happy he’s okay. But I think he’s referring to posts like yours immediately saying it was “clownshoes” on WWE and HHH’s part and a major dropped ball PR-wise. It's understandable why some people would feel that way, given WWE's lack of communication to alleviate fears. In the couple of hours after a worked angle?
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Feb 18, 2021 11:37:56 GMT -5
It's understandable why some people would feel that way, given WWE's lack of communication to alleviate fears. In the couple of hours after a worked angle? Something like half an hour after NXT ended mentioning the stretcher spot in a way that makes it clear that it was a work.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 18, 2021 11:41:55 GMT -5
It's understandable why some people would feel that way, given WWE's lack of communication to alleviate fears. In the couple of hours after a worked angle? Absolutely, especially when the fear is a seizure and people in and outside of NXT were very scared for Kyle's health.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 18, 2021 11:47:17 GMT -5
Figured this was a work
Don't see how this is WWE fault for fans letting their own mins run wild with speculation
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 18, 2021 11:50:57 GMT -5
I'd love to actually see a breakdown of how things unfolded. I think the first seizure tweet was 30 minutes or so after the show ended. It caught fire, and WWE planted a story with a few of the wrestling media by midnight ET or so debunking it. I don't think that's an awful response time, given they're probably all traveling home, regrouping after the show and also trying to better understand the situation - who was tweeting what, and when.
As we've all discussed in the last few days especially, plenty to hate on WWE about, but I don't know that their response was improper here.
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Post by edgestar on Feb 18, 2021 11:59:56 GMT -5
The thing with seizures is that, like any illness, you can't plan it out. Luckily, this is a work, but he also has diabetes. Fans are going to speculate for as long as they deem necessary. Hell, I had a seizure on the night Kevin Owens won the universal title. If he wins another world title, I'm not going to plan on going to the hospital.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 18, 2021 12:04:05 GMT -5
The thing with seizures is that, like any illness, you can't plan it out. Luckily, this is a work, but he also has diabetes. Fans are going to speculate for as long as they deem necessary. Hell, I had a seizure on the night Kevin Owens won the universal title. If he wins another world title, I'm not going to plan on going to the hospital. I believe they thought Daniel Bryan was having a seizure or something in his match against Randy Orton a few years ago (before the retirement) and they stopped the match It turned out to be a stinger or something but yeah they move quick if talent is in danger when they are in the ring
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 18, 2021 12:08:34 GMT -5
I'd love to actually see a breakdown of how things unfolded. I think the first seizure tweet was 30 minutes or so after the show ended. It caught fire, and WWE planted a story with a few of the wrestling media by midnight ET or so debunking it. I don't think that's an awful response time, given they're probably all traveling home, regrouping after the show and also trying to better understand the situation - who was tweeting what, and when. As we've all discussed in the last few days especially, plenty to hate on WWE about, but I don't know that their response was improper here. From what I can gather: *Dude on Twitter at the show says “Looks like O’Reilly is having a seizure”, starts to spread *Talent, either aware there was a stretcher job angle but not a “seizure” or unaware of anything (most likely because stretcher jobs happen all the time, they’re used to it and don’t need to be told every angle of the show, moreso in NXT), start tweeting their concern *First reporter says O’Reilly is fine *Next reporter says there wasn’t any real seizure at all, and now everything blows up at WWE for “having the audacity to book such a thing” (including from myself, I’ll wear that) Keep in mind that, at this point of time, there was no visual proof of ANY of this (but apparently there IS video now?). It had snowballed from one tweet where some guy, presumably with no malicious intent, tweeted what he thought he was seeing, into yet another criticism with which to beat WWE around the head with. I mean, there’s a whole lot of that they really DO deserve, but it’s scary how quickly it became like that, because our opinions of that company are just that low in the gutter. Even if they’d actually said something themselves on the website and said O’Reilly was OK, how many of these people would accuse them of lying and covering up the “truth”? Opinion is THAT LOW.
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Post by Cyno on Feb 18, 2021 12:09:35 GMT -5
I'm just glad the dude is actually alright. I also don't think WWE has any real blame here. A fan overreacted to a spot knowing about Kyle's legit medical history and certain wrestlers saw that and jumped to their own reactions on social media instead of checking in on their co-worker firsthand.
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