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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on May 7, 2021 21:12:07 GMT -5
I was initially onboard with Roman barely retaining at Backlash by the skin of his teeth after getting outwrestled and nearly humbled by Cesaro, but now, I want Big Tony to win.
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Post by Dave the Dave on May 7, 2021 21:17:20 GMT -5
I see Twitter clamoring for Seth to turn face and fight him at Summerslam.
That’d be such a waste.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on May 7, 2021 21:18:34 GMT -5
I see Twitter clamoring for Seth to turn face and fight him at Summerslam. That’d be such a waste. God no. I feel like those two even being on the same show at this point is a crime in several states.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2021 21:19:58 GMT -5
Me, personally, I don't mind the long run. I'm just at the point where I need to see him left laying more often than not. It's just a weird disconnect for me that a company that prides itself on making people happy books in a way that makes people miserable instead. What I'm curious about is exactly what'll happen with Cesaro here because Bryan's alone now. Is Cesaro gonna get help from Nakamura or something? Is Nakamura gonna even the odds or is Cesaro gonna take out Reigns and Jey until they have their match? I see Reigns getting laid out on future SDs but I don't know how it's gonna happen. I definitely don't think we're gonna have Reigns and Jey beat down Cesaro week by week though. We gotta have something.
Either Cesaro is gonna be so great he can beat them both down or somebody is gonna help him out so we'll see.
Roman's booking as a heel compared to a face is an interesting study. I read some reports that Michael Hayes was helping some of his matches and all but who knows how much of that is Heyman, Hayes, Vince or even Reigns himself.
The reason this one annoyed me so much was mostly just in the fact that they still did the same exact shit of someone getting the upper hand on him only for Joy to show up out of nowhere and cause him to stand tall at the end anyway. Beating Bryan clean was good; that was a welcome change of pace (well, other than that I didn't want Roman to win but whatever, that's fine). The issue is that they had the chance to end the show on something different with Cesaro kicking his ass and sending him running and it just turned into the same segment we've already seen a hundred times before. Hell, they could have bare minimum at least had Roman pull the Concharito off on his own and then have Cesaro chase him off when he tried to do it again or something. It'd have still been leaving Bryan lying broken without defaulting right back to, "Roman immediately gets the upper hand on his next challenger because for some reason no one can remember he has a cousin." We'll see what happens next week but I'm not sure. Right now to me it looked like they wanted Reigns to seem like the ultimate "God Puncher" so he did all this stuff so next week what'll happen with no Bryan? Will Cesaro be smarter? Will he have help? Will he take out both himself? We'll see because it didn't help them both here. One thing's for sure though, I doubt Cesaro will be getting beaten week by week until their match because if so then you'd have to question why. The more Cesaro gets beaten the bigger his chances look and tonight's looking like the worst from the face perspective. Bryan was beaten clean, Cesaro couldn't win, how will it be next week?
Roman's out here looking like Thanos. Guess we'll find out.
But I'm pretty sure this isn't happening next week and if it does then yeah, there'd be no reason for it to happen this week. This week's supposed to be seen as the worst. If it happens next week guaranteed I'll be back in here and yeah I'll agree with the laziness of these week by week beatdowns. I can get how that's annoying to people. Just doesn't bother me personally.
Yep I was right. Cesaro wrecked shop. He's able to take down all 3 dudes like that effortlessly, yeah, he's on one. We will see what happened at the ppv. But I'm calling it now. He will have Roman beat, Jey difused and then next thing you know Jimmy will truly join them. It's what I've been predicting.
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Post by adamclark52 on May 8, 2021 4:48:53 GMT -5
In my opinion there’s only one real way for this to end right
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Post by Mozenrath on May 8, 2021 5:01:57 GMT -5
I see Twitter clamoring for Seth to turn face and fight him at Summerslam. That’d be such a waste. Roman is *still* a more sympathetic character than Seth is. It'd be an enormous mistake. "I know I tried to permanently maim Rey for literally no reason, but uhh, you guys like my girlfriend. Does... does that get you to cheer me? Pleeeease?"
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 6:27:33 GMT -5
Am I the only one that would like to see him hold the title for the rest of the year and maybe even longer?
We need a really dominant champion and this new character of Roman is it.
There's nobody that should realistically beat him in my book. I have no real interest in Cesaro or Big E as main eventers. Edge and Bryan are already established... I mean, who is there to "make"?
Maybe Nakamura at a stretch. But if I had it my way, I'd be hyping Keith Lee up as the guy who does it.
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Post by thechase on May 8, 2021 6:29:19 GMT -5
Yeah, this reign of terror I don't mind, it has layers, it's not JUST Roman steam-rolling through everyone
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on May 8, 2021 7:02:43 GMT -5
I agree. This version of Roman is still fresh to me. I wouldn’t mind him keeping it til Summer Slam or Survivor Series at least (assuming they’d save the loss for a big PPV).
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Post by polarbearpete on May 8, 2021 7:44:34 GMT -5
Don’t expect it to happen, but Cesaro could have that Luger-like short title reign winning at Backlash and then losing it back at Money in the Bank. Only way I see that happening though is if the plan is for Reigns to then hold the title way past Summerslam. Don’t think they’d have him regain the title in June and then lose it for good in August.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on May 8, 2021 10:04:16 GMT -5
My biggest irk with all of this is Cesaro being booked as a nobody for so long Before this, he jobbed to Mansoor, Was in the WM kickoff show, The MITB kickoff show, then lost the tag titles to The New Day.
2021 was slightly better with a Mania win but this feels like less them giving Cesaro a much deserved chance than it does they ran out of options so they landed on him randomly.
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Post by adamclark52 on May 8, 2021 13:39:49 GMT -5
My biggest irk with all of this is Cesaro being booked as a nobody for so long Before this, he jobbed to Mansoor, Was in the WM kickoff show, The MITB kickoff show, then lost the tag titles to The New Day. 2021 was slightly better with a Mania win but this feels like less them giving Cesaro a much deserved chance than it does they ran out of options so they landed on him randomly. Wasn’t Jinder jobbing on Main Event two weeks before he won the title?
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2021 21:01:24 GMT -5
Great match tonight but the commentators talking up Cesaro's fighting spirit while he lays there completely useless as Roman slowly finishes him off and then post-match acts like it took no effort at all really shows the problem with this title reign.
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Post by kingoftheindies on May 16, 2021 21:05:40 GMT -5
Yeah I still dig Roman as the big bad but the ending with Jay and Seth just went into overkill
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on May 16, 2021 21:06:01 GMT -5
I mean, at least they didn't do the "Jey Uso runs interference" trope.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2021 21:06:32 GMT -5
For all we know, Cesaro actually beats Reigns which forces Reigns to turn into an even bigger heel where he gets the belt again shortly after and now instead of Jey he's got Jimmy behind him too. New theme, new heavy, new anger, stronger revolve. Now it'll be up to Big E (and his boys) to finish off Reigns and his goons. Cesaro being a world champion, albeit a few days to a few weeks, would be dope. Afterwards you can draft him to Raw and let him tangle with the Lashleys, Wyatts, Sheamuss of the world. I was wrong, Cesaro lost lmao. I'm an honorable man so I can take my L lol. Shoutout to him though because that performance was amazing, he put up a fight and he was dope. He's my MITB pick. Still the commentators can't be hyping all that up after that match, nah man. Just let him lose gracefully. We don't need you to pick him up off the ground after the bully beat his ass. As for who will beat Reigns...I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say that Vince got a call from The Rock or Lesnar and he's going to setup that match. Either them or Jimmy Uso. There's no way that Reigns is supposed to be this strong at the end of all we've seen, he wasn't even this strong against Owens so something clearly happened where they're elevating him futher. Reports came out some weeks ago saying the Lesnar and Rock plans were talked about but weren't set on...I'm gonna assume yeah it's gonna happen. Damn, I'm sick of Brock. Rock, well he ain't winning so, yeah.
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Post by Chiral on May 16, 2021 21:07:48 GMT -5
Theoretically, the impending Cesaro match could be this. A match where this absolute wrestling machine goes to town on Roman, who barely wins -- without Jey getting his nose into things -- is where I'd go. Yeah like the Cesaro swing in itself COULD be that thing. Have Seth get in his ear about how he absolutely can't let Cesaro hit him with the swing, and he brushes it off because Seth is just a weirdly dressed man now and it would never happen to him. In the match, Roman gets outwrestled, outplayed Shinsuke takes out Jey backstage or something, and on top of it Roman gets the swing, getting humiliated the same way Seth did. He can survive it with his cunning and dickheaditude, but then the egg is on his face and he could have that veneer crack again for the first time in a looong time. (Man remember how great it was early on in the Jey feud when Roman kept completely snapping and showing signs he had gone completely insane) It's nice to have dreams, past Chiral.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 16, 2021 21:07:57 GMT -5
Roman finally doesn't have the albatross of Brock Lesnar misery booking hanging over him and he's decided to embody it instead in the same "this guy is going to be booked solely to be a bleak and miserable and make you, the viewer, feel bad" way.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on May 16, 2021 21:08:08 GMT -5
Yeah I still dig Roman as the big bad but the ending with Jay and Seth just went into overkill That was my bigger issue about the whole thing. I've been done with Rollins for a couple years now and Jey doesn't need to keep sniping everyone. As it stands, I'm still convinced Roman loses it before the year is out because maybe they want to have the moment happen when they can consistently have crowds back but they may want to protect whoever they have planned for that now.
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Post by Chiral on May 16, 2021 21:10:17 GMT -5
Someone with stronger willpower than me should keep track of every time Roman's even been slightly set back. It's gotta be less than 10 over 9 months. Dude just does horrible things and keeps winning lol. On Smackdown he's gonna find a lottery ticket and win $24 million dollars after shitting in Shinsuke's new crown.
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