adamclark52
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Post by adamclark52 on Apr 18, 2021 15:08:32 GMT -5
Many of you are posting cities too small to host a Mania. Has to be a big enough tourist destination to draw enough people to the point where your local government is willing to pay WWE enough to make the deal because they’ll recoup that investment via tourism $. Also some of you are posting cities with stadiums under 50K capacity. Not going to happen. You do know this forum still has a lot of ties to Wrestlecrap.
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Post by edgestar on Apr 18, 2021 15:13:37 GMT -5
Though it's VASTLY smaller, WM at Dunkin Donuts Park, in Hartford. The 300 people they could get there, would be a thing!! (I know 11 was here).
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Apr 18, 2021 15:26:33 GMT -5
One would imagine Santa Clara will be counted as San Francisco in the same way that the one at MetLife Stadium was basically counted as New York despite really being in New Jersey. I want to see Wrestlemania in early April in Anchorage, that would be fun. I mean, not for the wrestlers or spectators, but...
I figure any Bay Area Manias will be done at Levi's, though Oracle Park would be a great setting for Mania, you'll either get a great view of the Bay or the SF skyline. If the A's ever get their new stadium at Jack London Square, that would be similarly impressive.
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Post by nisidhe on Apr 18, 2021 18:54:53 GMT -5
Given that Wrestlemania will probably take a few years to return to crowd sizes to justify the huge NFL stadiums, it would not hurt to consider some somewhat smaller venues in the meantime, _especially_ in historically hot wrestling markets in colder climes.
Any stadium with a retractable roof could work for such an event; the focus on Florida the last couple years has been for obvious reasons, but "when all this is over" is still likely another year at minimum, with capacity crowds not a reasonable expectation for a while after that (depending, among other things, on how economically feasible it is for fans to shell out for tickets, travel, etc. after the upheavals caused by the pandemic and the response(s) to it.) While Wrestlemania can clearly draw 25K, it had to rely largely on local fans who may not have had to pay the full pre-pandemic ticket price to attend (I could be wrong, and if so please correct me.) Not every area of the US has had the same experience with restrictions; not every country has had the same restrictions. Some may have lost their stomach for large-scale public events and will not be as welcoming to their return as others; the extent to which this can impact on events like Wrestlemania is still unknown.
And the biggest question mark hangs over the future of Wrestlemania itself. This is WWE's primary superevent: the one time of the year when all eyes, including those outside the industry are focused on what it has done and what it wants to do. In some respects, it has grown too large to manage as a single-night event (though it is certainly possible to do that; we've hashed out the ways and reasons all over this board before.) In the years immediately prior to the pandemic, it has morphed into a week-long celebration of wrestling as a whole and the host city has found itself awash with revenue, its hotels and motels booked solid and its restaurants and bars run off their feet. Now, with WWE essentially a TV-only promotion with network deals that make live events largely unnecessary, is it possible that the company may opt in future not to run Wrestlemania as a live event at all? Last year was a TV- or streaming-only event held at the PC. How much would it save by not negotiating with cities to host an event which comparatively doesn't make WWE a whole lot of profit, but will bring other promotions to the area to host events at or around the same time, potentially building themselves up at WWE's expense?
WWE doesn't need live events anymore. It's increasingly difficult, from a business perspective and given its recent money influx, to justify spending more money than is absolutely necessary to keep providing low-cost creative content to the networks.
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Post by mattyy on Apr 18, 2021 19:28:19 GMT -5
Branson, MO Guest host: Yakov Smirnov would love The Dale Gribble Blue Grass Experience to perform someone to the ring.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Apr 18, 2021 21:23:22 GMT -5
Many of you are posting cities too small to host a Mania. Has to be a big enough tourist destination to draw enough people to the point where your local government is willing to pay WWE enough to make the deal because they’ll recoup that investment via tourism $. Also some of you are posting cities with stadiums under 50K capacity. Not going to happen. Denver and Chicago have the lodging and are huge tourist destinations. So they'd make perfect sense to host Manias, weather is what's stopping them. Kansas City isn't the huge tourist destination, but it does have the lodging. But, again, it's weather.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 18, 2021 21:27:10 GMT -5
For those that haven't been mentioned and have stadiums for it: Cincinnati Cleveland Washington D.C. St. Louis Jacksonville (not likely anytime soon for obvious reasons) Pittsburgh Kansas City Buffalo For those saying Indianapolis, they have had a Wrestlemania before (WM8). I don’t see them going outside North America, but there are some Canadian cities that could host too. Either Montreal or Vancouver could be a possibility. This is probably the first time someone's referred to Buffalo as a major city in Decades
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Apr 18, 2021 21:32:35 GMT -5
For those that haven't been mentioned and have stadiums for it: Cincinnati Cleveland Washington D.C. St. Louis Jacksonville (not likely anytime soon for obvious reasons) Pittsburgh Kansas City Buffalo For those saying Indianapolis, they have had a Wrestlemania before (WM8). I don’t see them going outside North America, but there are some Canadian cities that could host too. Either Montreal or Vancouver could be a possibility. This is probably the first time someone's referred to Buffalo as a major city in Decades Well, their football team is doing better so they've got more to be excited about, and they were the home to an MLB team last season. But, Buffalo's huge drawback is the weather. New York City gets nothing in snowfall compared to Buffalo.
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Post by FHgrad99 on Apr 19, 2021 2:55:25 GMT -5
What about Austin, Texas? They could use the University of Texas' football stadium. It's capacity is over 95,000.
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Apr 19, 2021 8:55:15 GMT -5
Many of you are posting cities too small to host a Mania. Has to be a big enough tourist destination to draw enough people to the point where your local government is willing to pay WWE enough to make the deal because they’ll recoup that investment via tourism $. Also some of you are posting cities with stadiums under 50K capacity. Not going to happen. Denver and Chicago have the lodging and are huge tourist destinations. So they'd make perfect sense to host Manias, weather is what's stopping them. Kansas City isn't the huge tourist destination, but it does have the lodging. But, again, it's weather. I feel like Chicago would be logistically difficult. Not sure about other recent venues, but I know Indy, for instance, has Lucas Oil, Bankers Life, and tons of restaurants and hotels within walking distance of each other. Soldier Field and Allstate Arena aren't even in the same city. If they ran United Center, that and Soldier Field still aren't close to each other. It's potentially possible, but seems like it would be a massive pain and doubtful to ever happen.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Apr 19, 2021 13:54:03 GMT -5
This is probably the first time someone's referred to Buffalo as a major city in Decades Well, their football team is doing better so they've got more to be excited about, and they were the home to an MLB team last season. But, Buffalo's huge drawback is the weather. New York City gets nothing in snowfall compared to Buffalo. Would snow be a problem in April? It may be cold, but I don't know if the elements would factor into it this time of the year. I'd love to see a Mania at Lambeau, but I just don't see that happening; Green Bay is also not likely to accommodate the influx of people coming in from everywhere. So besides that and Jacksonville, most of the NFL cities could realistically have Mania. I liked WM19, but for some reason, they don't want to go to MLB stadiums again.
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Apr 19, 2021 14:11:24 GMT -5
Well, their football team is doing better so they've got more to be excited about, and they were the home to an MLB team last season. But, Buffalo's huge drawback is the weather. New York City gets nothing in snowfall compared to Buffalo. Would snow be a problem in April? It may be cold, but I don't know if the elements would factor into it this time of the year. I'd love to see a Mania at Lambeau, but I just don't see that happening; Green Bay is also not likely to accommodate the influx of people coming in from everywhere. So besides that and Jacksonville, most of the NFL cities could realistically have Mania. I liked WM19, but for some reason, they don't want to go to MLB stadiums again. They're calling for snow in the Chicago area tomorrow. I feel like any outside show in a northern city would have that possibility.
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Post by MrElijah on Apr 19, 2021 14:25:06 GMT -5
Green Bay, Wisconsin.
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Post by mauled on Apr 19, 2021 19:12:12 GMT -5
Why use the US at all. Why not go back to Canada or South to Mexico ?
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 19, 2021 19:37:27 GMT -5
I get why they won't run an outdoor show in late March/early April in the Midwest or Northeast (other then the NY market) but I've been saying for years they should run Summerslam in those markets. AmFam Field would be perfect for that. I have friends who still talk about going to the big WrestleFest show at County Stadium in 1998.
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Post by Beantown33 on Apr 20, 2021 6:44:09 GMT -5
Unfortunately the weather isn't going to permit Boston to be an option but it really should be. SummerSlam at Fenway! Seriously! With the fenway concert set up they’re ready to go. Can you imagine the Green Monster as the tron?!? Or Cena’s retirement match in Boston!?!?!
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Post by The Creepo Man on Apr 20, 2021 13:13:12 GMT -5
Fargo, North Dakota! That’s the only place Hulk Hogan will still receive a round of applause!
Side note, you think The Rock and Batista will receive their HOF inductions when they go to Hollywood in a couple of years?
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Post by fw91 on Apr 20, 2021 13:26:15 GMT -5
Minneapolis?
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Apr 20, 2021 14:09:35 GMT -5
Unfortunately the weather isn't going to permit Boston to be an option but it really should be. If only Gillette Stadium had a roof.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Apr 20, 2021 14:16:46 GMT -5
Many of you are posting cities too small to host a Mania. Has to be a big enough tourist destination to draw enough people to the point where your local government is willing to pay WWE enough to make the deal because they’ll recoup that investment via tourism $. Also some of you are posting cities with stadiums under 50K capacity. Not going to happen. This is a reason why I keep saying London is an option. Like, yeah we know it has a decent rain risk, but Wembley has a retractable roof.
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