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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Nov 19, 2021 16:39:32 GMT -5
So why exactly did they call up Hit Row again? So they could get them to sign new contracts with longer non-compete clauses before they cut them. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2021 17:08:29 GMT -5
Apparently Meltzer said Gargano's contract expires on December 3 and WWE's pushing hard for him to sign a new contract so, yeah. He's in limbo right now.
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Post by Mecca on Nov 19, 2021 17:11:41 GMT -5
Apparently Meltzer said Gargano's contract expires on December 3 and WWE's pushing hard for him to sign a new contract so, yeah. He's in limbo right now. I think that's because he has a spot in AEW and he's basically a fit to be a guy to teach the greenhorns. This mainly comes down to what Johnny wants, to basically be an on tv trainer or to get a run on the big show. Also the idea of Gargano and O'Reilly showing up basically at the same time probably doesn't amuse the WWE. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Nov 19, 2021 17:11:44 GMT -5
Apparently Meltzer said Gargano's contract expires on December 3 and WWE's pushing hard for him to sign a new contract so, yeah. He's in limbo right now. Either leaving now or eventually be chucked out and get paid for 90 days doing nothing seems to be the choice most people have now. |
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Post by Mecca on Nov 19, 2021 17:13:54 GMT -5
Apparently Meltzer said Gargano's contract expires on December 3 and WWE's pushing hard for him to sign a new contract so, yeah. He's in limbo right now. Either leaving now or eventually be chucked out and get paid for 90 days doing nothing seems to be the choice most people have now. Pretty much and the WWE loves being the one that chose to release a talent, they don't like being turned down it infuriates Vince. |
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 19, 2021 17:14:32 GMT -5
So why exactly did they call up Hit Row again? So they could get them to sign new contracts with longer non-compete clauses before they cut them. However what would be the point? If they want to they are still going to work for another wrestling company eventually either way. What does it matter if they show up in AEW in February as apposed to December? There's still going to be buzz around them either way. It's not like they were involved in some big angle or anything at the time of their firing. Unless Vince just personally didn't like them for some reason and did it to be a dick. |
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Post by Mecca on Nov 19, 2021 17:17:24 GMT -5
So they could get them to sign new contracts with longer non-compete clauses before they cut them. However what would be the point? If they want to they are still going to work for another wrestling company eventually either way. What does it matter if they show up in AEW in February as apposed to December? There's still going to be buzz around them either way. It's not like they were involved in some big angle or anything at the time of their firing. Unless Vince just personally didn't like them for some reason and did it to be a dick. I guarantee they'd argue not seeing someone for 90 days cools them off way more than 30. It's why the got worried about it happening with Malakai Black. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Nov 19, 2021 17:21:24 GMT -5
However what would be the point? If they want to they are still going to work for another wrestling company eventually either way. What does it matter if they show up in AEW in February as apposed to December? There's still going to be buzz around them either way. It's not like they were involved in some big angle or anything at the time of their firing. Unless Vince just personally didn't like them for some reason and did it to be a dick. I guarantee they'd argue not seeing someone for 90 days cools them off way more than 30. It's why the got worried about it happening with Malakai Black. Pretty much, to them it’s an “out of sight, out of mind” thing. The reaction is much smaller if they debuted after 3 months than 1 month. |
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 19, 2021 17:21:46 GMT -5
Apparently Meltzer said Gargano's contract expires on December 3 and WWE's pushing hard for him to sign a new contract so, yeah. He's in limbo right now. I think that's because he has a spot in AEW and he's basically a fit to be a guy to teach the greenhorns. This mainly comes down to what Johnny wants, to basically be an on tv trainer or to get a run on the big show. Also the idea of Gargano and O'Reilly showing up basically at the same time probably doesn't amuse the WWE. At least with Gargano it does seem like they are at least attempting to try to sway into staying as they have him in the main event scene at the moment. O'Reilly on the other it seems like they are trying to scare away. Making someone the lesser half in a tag team with Von Wagner doesn't seem like a good tactic to try to get someone to resign. |
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Post by Mecca on Nov 19, 2021 17:24:32 GMT -5
I think that's because he has a spot in AEW and he's basically a fit to be a guy to teach the greenhorns. This mainly comes down to what Johnny wants, to basically be an on tv trainer or to get a run on the big show. Also the idea of Gargano and O'Reilly showing up basically at the same time probably doesn't amuse the WWE. At least with Gargano it does seem like they are at least attempting to try to sway into staying as they have him in the main event scene at the moment. O'Reilly on the other it seems like they are trying to scare away. Making someone the lesser half in a tag team with Von Wagner doesn't seem like a good tactic to try to get someone to resign. They have to earmark a couple of ring talented vets to work the greenhorns. Garganos apparently 1, Ciampa and Roddy seem on that list too. The question is if they actually want those roles. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2021 17:27:00 GMT -5
Either leaving now or eventually be chucked out and get paid for 90 days doing nothing seems to be the choice most people have now. Pretty much and the WWE loves being the one that chose to release a talent, they don't like being turned down it infuriates Vince. Tbh, I doubt it upsets Vince. He sees all these people as disposable. Wyatt of all people he let go so he ain't gonna be mad at Gargano. I think Bryan was the only one he might have been upset about leaving. All these others he doesn't care about. You gotta be a huge name for Vince to truly care. Reigns, Becky, Seth, Charlotte, New Day maybe, those are the ones I feel he'd really be like "alright what'd going on here" if they went to AEW. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2021 17:27:01 GMT -5
The botch of the Retribution gimmick (not his fault IMO), not hiding his distaste of the Saudi deal and having a gimmick idea shot down. If I'm Ali I don't empty the savings account to buy a sports car anytime soon. I'd also ask Danielson (who is said to be a big fan) to put in a good word.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 19, 2021 17:30:02 GMT -5
Apparently Meltzer said Gargano's contract expires on December 3 and WWE's pushing hard for him to sign a new contract so, yeah. He's in limbo right now. Johnny GetTheF***OuttaThere |
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Post by Mecca on Nov 19, 2021 17:30:07 GMT -5
The botch of the Retribution gimmick (not his fault IMO), not hiding his distaste of the Saudi deal and having a gimmick idea shot down. If I'm Ali I don't empty the savings account to buy a sports car anytime soon. I'd also ask Danielson (who is said to be a big fan) to put in a good word. Ali is one of those guys that they don't even understand what they have in him. |
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 19, 2021 17:31:10 GMT -5
At least with Gargano it does seem like they are at least attempting to try to sway into staying as they have him in the main event scene at the moment. O'Reilly on the other it seems like they are trying to scare away. Making someone the lesser half in a tag team with Von Wagner doesn't seem like a good tactic to try to get someone to resign. They have to earmark a couple of ring talented vets to work the greenhorns. Garganos apparently 1, Ciampa and Roddy seem on that list too. The question is if they actually want those roles. That definitely seems like their plan. All of those guys it seems have been assigned green horns they have high hopes for either as rivals or tag partners to help them along, Von with Kyle, Carmello with Gargano, Bron Breakker with Ciampa, and the Creed Brothers with Strong. Difference is unlike the rest Kyle is presented as the lesser star to his rookie. Ciampa is still the NXT Champion, Strong is Cruiserweight Champion and the centerpiece of Diamond Mine, and Gargano has been protected in his feud with Carmello and Trick as they've gotten all their heat on Dexter instead so far. |
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Post by raymondo316 on Nov 19, 2021 17:31:14 GMT -5
Gargano hasn't got a chance in hell of succeeding on the main roster, he will be chasing the 24/7 title if he re-signs & then will likely be released next year.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 19, 2021 17:31:36 GMT -5
I don't think I realized how genuinely pathetic and stretched thin Raw's roster is at this point. Assuming SmackDown Hotel has it right it's...
Men (32)
AJ Styles
Akira Tozawa
Angelo Dawkins
Apollo Crews
Austin Theory
Big E
Bobby Lashley
Cedric Alexander
Chad Gable
Commander Azeez
Damian Priest
Dolph Ziggler
Dominik Mysterio
Edge
Finn Balor
Gable Steveson
Kevin Owens
MVP
Montez Ford
Omos
Otis
R-Truth
Randy Orton
Reggie
Rey Mysterio
Riddle
Robert Roode
Seth Rollins
Shelton Benjamin
T-Bar
The Miz
Veer Mahaan
Women (11):
Alexa Bliss
Becky Lynch
Bianca Belair
Carmella
Dana Brooke
Doudrop
Liv Morgan
Nikki ASH
Rhea Ripley
Tamina
Zelina Vega
And quite a few of those are injured or otherwise missing. How do you build up someone as a big deal or keep two top stars a part when the landscape is that barren?
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 19, 2021 17:32:10 GMT -5
The botch of the Retribution gimmick (not his fault IMO), not hiding his distaste of the Saudi deal and having a gimmick idea shot down. If I'm Ali I don't empty the savings account to buy a sports car anytime soon. I'd also ask Danielson (who is said to be a big fan) to put in a good word. I desperately want Ali to get the hell out of WWE the first chance he gets. I don't know that I've ever wanted to see someone succeed somewhere else as much as I do him. |
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Post by Mike Strike on Nov 19, 2021 17:32:38 GMT -5
So they could get them to sign new contracts with longer non-compete clauses before they cut them. However what would be the point? If they want to they are still going to work for another wrestling company eventually either way. What does it matter if they show up in AEW in February as apposed to December? There's still going to be buzz around them either way. It's not like they were involved in some big angle or anything at the time of their firing. Unless Vince just personally didn't like them for some reason and did it to be a dick. Pettiness is the point. |
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Post by Mecca on Nov 19, 2021 17:33:39 GMT -5
Gargano hasn't got a chance in hell of succeeding on the main roster, he will be chasing the 24/7 title if he re-signs & then will likely be released next year. I don't think the plan is to ever call him up, just NXT forever. |
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