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Post by Corre.222 on Nov 19, 2021 17:34:37 GMT -5
RAW has seen a precipitous drop of quality from these releases (Keith Lee, Karrion Kross), and Dijak not used. Now it's the same old players who are mostly in their 40's who you don't know if Vince will push, or release, or leave the company, or retire, and not really exciting in their 40's overall unless mixed up with youth. It's true that Lee & Kross aren't young, BUT they're new & different, and great in their own different ways and had something interesting to offer. It feels so good to do other productive things in life than to watch this.
NXT is actually the best show by WWE, relatively speaking.
Bring back vignettes, or cliffhangers, or something fresh.
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Post by nisidhe on Nov 19, 2021 17:45:22 GMT -5
So, saw on r/SquaredCircle a TikTok video with the McMahons making a visit to the site of the new HQ. Both Steph and Paul were there along with Vince.
So, I guess any rumours of a strained marriage appear to be at least somewhat exaggerated. I apologize for the error.
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Post by Mecca on Nov 19, 2021 17:46:09 GMT -5
So, saw on r/SquaredCircle a TikTok video with the McMahons making a visit to the site of the new HQ. Both Steph and Paul were there along with Vince. So, I guess any rumours of a strained marriage appear to be at least somewhat exaggerated. I apologize for the error. I assume he just bitches about Vince to Stephanie...
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Post by raymondo316 on Nov 19, 2021 17:57:40 GMT -5
Gargano hasn't got a chance in hell of succeeding on the main roster, he will be chasing the 24/7 title if he re-signs & then will likely be released next year. I don't think the plan is to ever call him up, just NXT forever. Well, he doesn't exactly fit in with NXT's new direction, so unless he's just happy to put over all the rookies for the rest of his career, I'm not sure why he would want to stick around.
I remember the young bucks doing a Q&A on reddit about 6 years ago & one of the questions asked was "if you started a company and could sign any 10 wrestlers, who would they be''
Gargano was on both of their lists, so I wouldn't be surprised if the bucks have contacted him, making an offer.
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Post by Mecca on Nov 19, 2021 18:08:09 GMT -5
I don't think the plan is to ever call him up, just NXT forever. Well, he doesn't exactly fit in with NXT's new direction, so unless he's just happy to put over all the rookies for the rest of his career, I'm not sure why he would want to stick around. I remember the young bucks doing a Q&A on reddit about 6 years ago & one of the questions asked was "if you started a company and could sign any 10 wrestlers, who would they be''
Gargano was on both of their lists, so I wouldn't be surprised if the bucks have contacted him, making an offer.
They love Candace too...
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Post by Heartbreaker on Nov 19, 2021 18:17:33 GMT -5
I feel so sorry for everyone else still on the roster because I would be having severe anxiety if I were in their position. Especially if you are an international talent.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Nov 19, 2021 18:47:01 GMT -5
Per Alvarez. Top Dolla had heat in NXT and all of Hit Row had heat once called up.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Nov 19, 2021 18:47:37 GMT -5
So, saw on r/SquaredCircle a TikTok video with the McMahons making a visit to the site of the new HQ. Both Steph and Paul were there along with Vince. So, I guess any rumours of a strained marriage appear to be at least somewhat exaggerated. I apologize for the error. there were no rumors it was just people in this thread making unfounded speculation based on literally nothing. Which was one of the many reasons I told people not to keep bringing it up.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Nov 19, 2021 18:50:19 GMT -5
Per Alvarez. Top Dolla had heat in NXT and all of Hit Row had heat once called up. But Top Dolla seems so quiet and not aggravating at all.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Nov 19, 2021 18:50:36 GMT -5
So, saw on r/SquaredCircle a TikTok video with the McMahons making a visit to the site of the new HQ. Both Steph and Paul were there along with Vince. So, I guess any rumours of a strained marriage appear to be at least somewhat exaggerated. I apologize for the error. I assume he just bitches about Vince to Stephanie... I do wonder how Stephanie feels about this... I'm sure outwardly she's not going to ever say anything cause 1. her father is the one behind them and 2. as one of the top executives you don't claim the company is making a mistake cause that causes shareholders to drop. But it's gotta make her job harder too, the CBO's entire job is to make the company look good... yeah she can point to the high revenues and profits but... from an optics stand point these releases ain't great.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Nov 19, 2021 19:02:52 GMT -5
I hope if guys like Gargano do resign they are smart and get some clauses in to benefit them like If WWE chooses to release him that he gets paid 50% of the value of the rest of his contract or something
I’m not sure how it’d work in practise but something like that to at least have some security because contract lengths mean diddly squat
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Post by Fade on Nov 19, 2021 19:03:58 GMT -5
Per Alvarez. Top Dolla had heat in NXT and all of Hit Row had heat once called up. He also mentioned the rumor Top Dolla went to the office in protest/to vouch for B-Fab.
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Post by Gawk Rivers on Nov 19, 2021 19:08:36 GMT -5
Per Alvarez. Top Dolla had heat in NXT and all of Hit Row had heat once called up. He also mentioned the rumor Top Dolla went to the office in protest/to vouch for B-Fab. Oh my god that is depressing
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Nov 19, 2021 19:12:15 GMT -5
Btw… rosters thinning out, will the brand split end? Nick Khan just wanted to save on catering...that's the REAL budget cuts. Hey, that much chicken quesadilla cost a shitload of money.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 19, 2021 19:12:30 GMT -5
Per Alvarez. Top Dolla had heat in NXT and all of Hit Row had heat once called up. He also mentioned the rumor Top Dolla went to the office in protest/to vouch for B-Fab. Top Dolla kinda seems like a hot head but it really does seem like if you have a free thought of your own in this company that doesn't line up with Vince's you're just outta there Hit Row were all very outspoken talents and that probably killed them more than anything... they don't have the bargaining chips and power people like say New Day does to be the same way unfortunately...
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Post by The Captain on Nov 19, 2021 19:13:24 GMT -5
I assume he just bitches about Vince to Stephanie... I do wonder how Stephanie feels about this... I'm sure outwardly she's not going to ever say anything cause 1. her father is the one behind them and 2. as one of the top executives you don't claim the company is making a mistake cause that causes shareholders to drop. But it's gotta make her job harder too, the CBO's entire job is to make the company look good... yeah she can point to the high revenues and profits but... from an optics stand point these releases ain't great. And, from pretty much every account, Stephanie is really well-liked by the wrestlers and treats them with respect. She's not going to go publicly against her father, but I can see her being in a shitty place privately where she has to be in the middle between Vince and Triple H, or Vince and the talent.
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Post by raymondo316 on Nov 19, 2021 19:13:42 GMT -5
I hope if guys like Gargano do resign they are smart and get some clauses in to benefit them like If WWE chooses to release him that he gets paid 50% of the value of the rest of his contract or something I’m not sure how it’d work in practise but something like that to at least have some security because contract lengths mean diddly squat If WWE wouldn't do that for bigger names, they sure as hell aren't going to do it for Gargano. It would open up a can of worms, and every wrestler whose contract was expiring would make the same demand.
They refused to budge on the twitch ban, no way they agree to something like this for someone in NXT.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Nov 19, 2021 19:18:16 GMT -5
I hope if guys like Gargano do resign they are smart and get some clauses in to benefit them like If WWE chooses to release him that he gets paid 50% of the value of the rest of his contract or something I’m not sure how it’d work in practise but something like that to at least have some security because contract lengths mean diddly squat If WWE wouldn't do that for bigger names, they sure as hell aren't going to do it for Gargano. It would open up a can of worms, and every wrestler whose contract was expiring would make the same demand.
They refused to budge on the twitch ban, no way they agree to something like this for someone in NXT.
It's still worth a shot. If WWE isn't willing to entertain the possibility of a significant guarantee, then as a wrestler you know they want to keep their options open as far as cutting you. That at least helps you make an informed decision on if you really want to sign that contract, knowing you might be released at any moment because of the whims of an elderly man who doesn't "get" you.
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Post by Mecca on Nov 19, 2021 19:19:02 GMT -5
He also mentioned the rumor Top Dolla went to the office in protest/to vouch for B-Fab. Oh my god that is depressing Hey that isn't cool you fired my friend... f*** you pal you're all fired.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Nov 19, 2021 19:21:15 GMT -5
At least with Gargano it does seem like they are at least attempting to try to sway into staying as they have him in the main event scene at the moment. O'Reilly on the other it seems like they are trying to scare away. Making someone the lesser half in a tag team with Von Wagner doesn't seem like a good tactic to try to get someone to resign. They have to earmark a couple of ring talented vets to work the greenhorns. Garganos apparently 1, Ciampa and Roddy seem on that list too. The question is if they actually want those roles. I think Gargano might have stayed if they offered him a lot of money and a no release clause or something. Dude has a baby on the way, and I know he wants to make sure his family is financially stable. ..but since AEW is around, guys like him, Owens, Roddy, etc., can leave and go to a company where they’re creatively free as well as being able to make sure their families are still good. That’s gotta be a plus to potential talent. They didn’t have this option 10 years ago of course besides maaaybe TNA, but times have changed for the better thankfully.
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