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Post by bearned on Jan 6, 2022 19:39:38 GMT -5
How long until Campia is gone? I hate to say that because with all of HHH people going. He is one of the very few even left. Everyone else left by release or on there own for one reason or another. At this point who knows? Doesn’t matter how good you are in the ring or even if you are a respected veteran who is helping with training talent. I mean even Owens signing a new deal doesn’t really mean anything, he could be gone mid year for all we know.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2022 19:39:43 GMT -5
How long until Campia is gone? I hate to say that because with all of HHH people going. He is one of the very few even left. Everyone else left by release or on there own for one reason or another. How about Dakota Kai? I'm afraid that one's coming, she's been losing a lot and was a Triple H signing. Dakota I think already saw the writing on the wall which is why she has been talking alot about starting back streaming on twitch.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 6, 2022 19:39:59 GMT -5
How long until Campia is gone? I hate to say that because with all of HHH people going. He is one of the very few even left. Everyone else left by release or on there own for one reason or another. The bigger question for me is how long Roddy Strong has got. Yeah, they resigned him, so you'd think he'd be safe. But this is 2021/22 WWE so he isn't. And I think he will soon be seeing the error in choosing to resign with this sinking ship. New contracts means nothing. We seen that several times this pass year. Joe included. I really do fear for Campia, Strong, and others.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 6, 2022 19:40:29 GMT -5
Pardon my ignorance if it was posted elsewhere, but I can't find it. Besides Road Dogg, Regal and Joe, who else was released in this wave? Mostly trainers but in terms of other wrestlers, Thatcher and Burch.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jan 6, 2022 19:42:32 GMT -5
At this point, we probably shouldn't be surprised if anyone gets released outside of the current four world champions. They've released great indie workers and they've released Braun Strowman and everyone in-between. No one is safe no matter what they offer.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jan 6, 2022 19:43:08 GMT -5
This is WWE’s version of Order 66, Jesus.
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Post by Chiral on Jan 6, 2022 19:43:31 GMT -5
Samoa Joe's had one of the weirdest years I've ever seen in WWE (It's close enough to 2021 that I'm counting it)
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Post by Ringmaster on Jan 6, 2022 19:43:57 GMT -5
What the hells going on. Have they ever gone this crazy with releases before in their history? They've never swung the axe this hard but they've also never had a roster this bloated. You'd need someone good at statistic who could tell you if percentage wise another period was worse. I know in 98 WCW had over 100 people on their roster. They were also paying people like Lanny Poffo despite him never being on any show. From what I recall from 'The Death of WCW' they were also buying plane tickets for said roster even if they were not on the show.
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Post by mistery on Jan 6, 2022 19:46:37 GMT -5
The story of the rise and fall of Triple H in power is so fascinating. He went from the booking heir apparent running a critically acclaimed third brand to having everyone who worked for him fired as he loses all his real power. I would love to know his real thoughts on this and I would read a book about this backstage turmoil in a heartbeat. One of the really fascinating parts of it all to me is that this ugly power grab move is being pushed by some of the least impressive f***-up 'I had a fall guy' dipshits in company history. Johnny Ace? Bruce Prichard? These are the dudes who are being trusted to bring a new direction when they barely had a direction the first time around. It's a hatchet job. It's yes men cannibalizing somebody who was actually doing good work because he didn't achieve lofty goals that turned out to be the secret 'real' reason he was given the green light to do what he did in the first place. That means undoing all the work he did to regress things back to a worse state and unravel all the progress he tried to make in the company, spurred on by the whims of one new executive who is actually bringing success in his role but who is absolutely demolishing everything around him in the process with no care for the wrestling business and how it differs from a sandwich shop. He's lost all his power and had his successes rewritten as failures by real failures who moved the goal post while sweet talking his father in law into giving them power instead. It's some real Shakespeare tragedy shit. I said it earlier, but I'll say it again. The direction Bruce, Johnny, etc want to take the company is a bad idea. We've seen what happens when they get power before when it comes to talent stuff. And it's going to get real ugly before too long. Because I sure hope Vince and them have a plan in place when ratings inevitably crater when we get Von Wagoner vs Omos on RAW one day, and ratings absolutely crater.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Jan 6, 2022 19:49:41 GMT -5
At this stage, and with how he comes across on TV, I genuinely believe McMahon has lost it. Debatable if he ever had 'it', but..
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Post by MrElijah on Jan 6, 2022 19:52:57 GMT -5
The future doesn't look bright for the likes of Ciampa, Strong, LA Knight, Santos Escobar, Kushida, Dexter Lumis and Pete Dunne None of them really fit into the new direction of NXT/WWE
Santos dies to Cuerno can live again. I'll take it. Of course that would suck since WWE was Santos' goal.
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Post by john84 on Jan 6, 2022 19:54:02 GMT -5
The story of the rise and fall of Triple H in power is so fascinating. He went from the booking heir apparent running a critically acclaimed third brand to having everyone who worked for him fired as he loses all his real power. I would love to know his real thoughts on this and I would read a book about this backstage turmoil in a heartbeat. It'd be quite a book if it was a full-on ''no holds barred'' truth style book.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 6, 2022 19:54:53 GMT -5
One of the really fascinating parts of it all to me is that this ugly power grab move is being pushed by some of the least impressive f***-up 'I had a fall guy' dipshits in company history. Johnny Ace? Bruce Prichard? These are the dudes who are being trusted to bring a new direction when they barely had a direction the first time around. It's a hatchet job. It's yes men cannibalizing somebody who was actually doing good work because he didn't achieve lofty goals that turned out to be the secret 'real' reason he was given the green light to do what he did in the first place. That means undoing all the work he did to regress things back to a worse state and unravel all the progress he tried to make in the company, spurred on by the whims of one new executive who is actually bringing success in his role but who is absolutely demolishing everything around him in the process with no care for the wrestling business and how it differs from a sandwich shop. He's lost all his power and had his successes rewritten as failures by real failures who moved the goal post while sweet talking his father in law into giving them power instead. It's some real Shakespeare tragedy shit. I said it earlier, but I'll say it again. The direction Bruce, Johnny, etc want to take the company is a bad idea. We've seen what happens when they get power before when it comes to talent stuff. And it's going to get real ugly before too long. Because I sure hope Vince and them have a plan in place when ratings inevitably crater when we get Von Wagoner vs Omos on RAW one day, and ratings absolutely crater. Change-averse and stubborn Vince will take yes men who say the real key to success is the same old shit that's had them whittling away at their audience for years over Triple H's efforts to modernize and grow on-screen. Prichard Vince's living bidet and Johnny Ace is a pig, and both will are happy to make Vince 'comfortable' in setting him back down into old patterns. They're the worst people to give the keys to, and the ratings aren't going to look better in a couple years when these changes really shake out and we see the fruits of this labor, because it's really shit labor.
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Post by john84 on Jan 6, 2022 19:58:13 GMT -5
Are you f***ing kidding me. Beat me to it.
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Post by Mecca on Jan 6, 2022 20:00:23 GMT -5
I said it earlier, but I'll say it again. The direction Bruce, Johnny, etc want to take the company is a bad idea. We've seen what happens when they get power before when it comes to talent stuff. And it's going to get real ugly before too long. Because I sure hope Vince and them have a plan in place when ratings inevitably crater when we get Von Wagoner vs Omos on RAW one day, and ratings absolutely crater. Change-averse and stubborn Vince will take yes men who say the real key to success is the same old shit that's had them whittling away at their audience for years over Triple H's efforts to modernize and grow on-screen. Prichard Vince's living bidet and Johnny Ace is a pig, and both will are happy to make Vince 'comfortable' in setting him back down into old patterns. They're the worst people to give the keys to, and the ratings aren't going to look better in a couple years when these changes really shake out and we see the fruits of this labor, because it's really shit labor. It's that but Nick Khan being there to pump the idea that talent doesn't matter is part of it too.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jan 6, 2022 20:05:34 GMT -5
THAT Nick Khan?
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Jan 6, 2022 20:08:38 GMT -5
One of the really fascinating parts of it all to me is that this ugly power grab move is being pushed by some of the least impressive f***-up 'I had a fall guy' dipshits in company history. Johnny Ace? Bruce Prichard? These are the dudes who are being trusted to bring a new direction when they barely had a direction the first time around. It's a hatchet job. It's yes men cannibalizing somebody who was actually doing good work because he didn't achieve lofty goals that turned out to be the secret 'real' reason he was given the green light to do what he did in the first place. That means undoing all the work he did to regress things back to a worse state and unravel all the progress he tried to make in the company, spurred on by the whims of one new executive who is actually bringing success in his role but who is absolutely demolishing everything around him in the process with no care for the wrestling business and how it differs from a sandwich shop. He's lost all his power and had his successes rewritten as failures by real failures who moved the goal post while sweet talking his father in law into giving them power instead. It's some real Shakespeare tragedy shit. I said it earlier, but I'll say it again. The direction Bruce, Johnny, etc want to take the company is a bad idea. We've seen what happens when they get power before when it comes to talent stuff. And it's going to get real ugly before too long. Because I sure hope Vince and them have a plan in place when ratings inevitably crater when we get Von Wagoner vs Omos on RAW one day, and ratings absolutely crater. Considering how both Bruce & Johnny feel about women's wrestling...that's definitely not a good thing.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jan 6, 2022 20:11:01 GMT -5
Damn, Hunter hasn't jobbed this hard since 'Mania 12.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jan 6, 2022 20:12:41 GMT -5
At this point, we probably shouldn't be surprised if anyone gets released outside of the current four world champions. They've released great indie workers and they've released Braun Strowman and everyone in-between. No one is safe no matter what they offer. At this point, I’d only be shocked by Lesnar, Roman, Rollins and Becky being cut. Surprised by Bayley and New Day. I could also genuinely see Triple H and Stephanie leaving the company in the next couple years. Not to go to AEW or anything, just cashing out and retiring.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 6, 2022 20:15:48 GMT -5
Damn, Hunter hasn't jobbed this hard since 'Mania 12. No wonder he's been bombing so hard in the Rumblethon when he has all this going on.
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