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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2021 3:11:38 GMT -5
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 22, 2021 5:23:40 GMT -5
And their reaction to the suit hasn't been great, mostly either saying that stuff's exaggerated or dealt with in other means which...
Look, even if most of the stories I've only glimmered at (I've seen enough responses to know it's shocking enough without going into it myself), there's likely enough there that something should be done and man, even if some of them are true...man...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2021 5:30:51 GMT -5
In a perfect world, something will be done and Activision would be held fully accountable.
Unfortunately, we do not live in a perfect world.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jul 22, 2021 5:35:10 GMT -5
In a perfect world, something will be done and Activision would be held fully accountable. Unfortunately, we do not live in a perfect world. And sadly with both the Diablo 2 remaster and a new CoD game coming out later this year, both halves of Activision Blizzard are likely going to easily “forgiven” as it were. I wish I could have the confidence they’d be properly taken to task but after seeing how rapidly people went, “Oooo, shiny!” at Ubisoft’s holiday release slate of games last year and just more or less completely swept aside their own abuse and harassment allegations, I just don’t see Activision Blizzard being hit all that hard either, even with them being sued by a government entity.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jul 22, 2021 5:35:21 GMT -5
Random bit of history: Blizzard hired a lead dev that called himself Tigole Bitties when he played Everquest ... and then let him keep using the name professionally.
Who could have seen this coming?
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 22, 2021 6:17:42 GMT -5
Ubisoft similarly got hit with a lot of accusations, and so far, media have handled them with kid gloves, so while I hope that doesn't happen to Activision, I do feel concerned people will just not hold them to task. While not *as* severe, we've heard horror stories about Quantic Dream, Riot, Rockstar, WB Games, and others having really toxic work environments for various reasons. So much of the industry frankly could stand to have a good root canal, because it's rotten through and through.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Jul 22, 2021 7:17:51 GMT -5
So who's ready for a new Warcraft game to be announced in a few days?
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jul 22, 2021 7:21:41 GMT -5
So who's ready for a new Warcraft game to be announced in a few days? Warcraft 4... Mobile. Do you guys not have phones?
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Post by Push R Truth on Jul 22, 2021 13:12:17 GMT -5
Just wanted to post this quote from the site incase people don't want to click on it:
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Post by mattperiolat on Jul 22, 2021 13:34:32 GMT -5
Jesus… 25 pages.
I’ve been paying Blizzard for over ten years as a faithful consumer and I am friends with two women at Blizzard. But how can I keep supporting with this?
I can’t.
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Post by darbus alan on Jul 22, 2021 15:33:50 GMT -5
Well, if I had any desire to check out the shitshow of 9.1 in Shadowlands, this killed that quickly. And I won't buy any of their other games until things change. No Diablo IV, no Diablo IIR, no Overwatch 2, nothing.
But it's also just another example of how misogynistic and outright cruel the video game industry is. But this is probably the worst example of this stuff I've seen, especially with one person taking their own life. This industry is rotten to the core and needs to be purged.
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Post by Hurbster on Jul 22, 2021 17:50:50 GMT -5
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Post by xCompackx on Jul 22, 2021 21:02:31 GMT -5
Ugh, the "response" is the shit cherry on the shit cake. But yeah, f*** Activision.
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Post by J. Hova on Jul 22, 2021 21:16:36 GMT -5
It's atrocious and unfortunately, to varying degrees, this is pretty rampant in the gaming development industry. This is about the worst of the worst.....I hope.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Jul 22, 2021 22:43:55 GMT -5
video Game industry needs a huge "Me Too" movement like Hollywood to purge this crap.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2021 22:45:22 GMT -5
video Game industry needs a huge "Me Too" movement like Hollywood to purge this crap. I think it'd be extremely difficult given how 1), games media absolutely refuses to badmouth big publishers because they don't want to lose early access to shit, and 2), a gigantic chunk of the audience not only does not care but actively encourages it.
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Post by darbus alan on Jul 23, 2021 0:10:18 GMT -5
video Game industry needs a huge "Me Too" movement like Hollywood to purge this crap. I think it'd be extremely difficult given how 1), games media absolutely refuses to badmouth big publishers because they don't want to lose early access to shit, and 2), a gigantic chunk of the audience not only does not care but actively encourages it. If only there was some sort of movement that wanted to hold games media accountable to some sort of ethical standard.
Well, one that didn't use that as an smokescreen to bully anyone that thought "what do straight white men think about this and how do we cater to them at the expense of everyone else?" wasn't the most pressing issue facing the industry?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 23, 2021 7:41:52 GMT -5
Amazing what is said when you're being sued by a government commission.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2021 21:01:49 GMT -5
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Post by darbus alan on Jul 27, 2021 0:05:53 GMT -5
I've seen comments on this from Chris Metzen and Mike Morhaime, two of the bigger former names from Blizzard. A friend I talked to about it said something about it that really stuck with me.
"There are two ways to take Morhaime and Metzen's statements and I don't know which one I'm leaning toward yet. Either it's 'I'm upset I got caught' or 'I can't believe I let this happen.'"
It's easy with Blizzard specifically to just blame Activision for it because they make for a very easy (and a lot of the times, accurate) target for Blizzard's recent failings. But not for this. Alex Afrasiabi, the main person implicated on their end, is very much an "old guard" guy. Even with stuff kept hush-hush at Blizzcon, the guy's had a bad reputation for being a piece of shit. There was an incident at GDC a few years ago where he was a drunken asshole to some woman over a cab. Then at the Legion reveal at Blizzcon, he was one of the main presenters and he came off as butthurt that people generally didn't like the story of Warlords of Draenor. His entire part of the presentation had an air of spite and loathing towards the fans. And given the way he portrayed Warcraft's female characters (which was very poorly, to say the least), it really isn't much of a surprise that he has similar attitudes towards women in real life, too.
Maybe, in retrospect, Morhaime and Metzen realize that it wasn't the best idea to hire someone to your company previously best known for angry, profanity-laden rants about Everquest. Looking at my friend's summary of the situation, I hope it's the latter and they both realized how badly they f***ed up. But the cynic in me thinks there's a good chance of it being the former.
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