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Post by mistery on Oct 24, 2022 23:17:04 GMT -5
I felt bad that she got no reaction tonight. Alot of people in my section didn't know who she was at first. Hopefully things will get better as time goes on for her. I honestly don't think she'll get much more of a reaction. Outside of the Bliss/Cross stuff, main roster audiences just...didn't care about her. And it doesn't help that she's won exactly two matches this year on TV. A match on Main Event, and a match on NXT. Both tag matches. Otherwise she has lost every singles match she has been in.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Oct 24, 2022 23:27:49 GMT -5
Personally I loved the Crazy Nikki persona back in NXT and felt we never really got to see that much of it in the main roster so I'm hopeful for now with this. Same. Give me some attacking and biting the ropes Nikki vs. the sinking ship that was her superhero gimmick. I'll take crazy cornball over that any day.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 24, 2022 23:45:25 GMT -5
This seems like a good prediction but like...Nikki just kinda sucks and this is their fourth or fifth attempt at trying to push her as a serious threat. WWE's never going to learn that the ~crazy girl~ gimmick doesn't get over in most situations and Nikki has had many attempts at trying to make her a threat. She's kind of in the same boat as Natalya, Carmella, and Tamina (although I think Nikki is a better all around talent then those three). There's people they always keep around so they'll give them these annual pushes to make them useful and freshen up the title picture. Problem is there not good enough to be in that spot. I understand wanting to get some different talents in there every once in a while instead of the five or six chosen ones all the time but at the same there has to be better options for that. They’re kept around because they’re the only people seemingly allowed to lose. Everyone else is too good for that.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Oct 25, 2022 0:20:42 GMT -5
I love when Triple H undoes something Vince clearly did because he was an uncreative sack of barely chewed steak wraps.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 25, 2022 1:01:21 GMT -5
For someone with severe psychosis, Nikki Cross sure has voluminous hair. That ish is getting at least early ‘90s big, which is not quite ‘80s big, but close.
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Post by Zen411 on Oct 25, 2022 4:06:46 GMT -5
I dont get it. You make her jobber for years and then she takes off the mask and is instantly in the title scene? If someone was going to crash a main event title match, I would have preferred almost anyone else. Asuka. Doudrop with a new persona. Lacey. Mandy rose. Rhea. So many other choices. I just can't see Nikki getting over any more.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 25, 2022 4:09:16 GMT -5
I felt bad that she got no reaction tonight. Alot of people in my section didn't know who she was at first. Hopefully things will get better as time goes on for her. I honestly don't think she'll get much more of a reaction. Outside of the Bliss/Cross stuff, main roster audiences just...didn't care about her. And it doesn't help that she's won exactly two matches this year on TV. A match on Main Event, and a match on NXT. Both tag matches. Otherwise she has lost every singles match she has been in. In fairness, this crowd was super dead tonight in the second half of the show Like Omos' segment just cratered them and outside of the main event nothing really was bringing them back up Does that mean they'll care about Nikki later? No, but this crowd isn't exactly the barometer I'd set.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 25, 2022 4:44:07 GMT -5
I dont get it. You make her jobber for years and then she takes off the mask and is instantly in the title scene? If someone was going to crash a main event title match, I would have preferred almost anyone else. Asuka. Doudrop with a new persona. Lacey. Mandy rose. Rhea. So many other choices. I just can't see Nikki getting over any more. Being fair, the title scene basically involves the entire active division at this point outside of Rhea Ripley, Dana Brooke and Tamina (Becky Lynch and Carmella (?) inactive with injury, Doudrop off of TV probably for repackaging). Belair the champion, challenged by Bayley, who is backed up by Sky and Kai, with Asuka, Bliss, LeRae and now Cross in the orbit. Well, shit, that's eight people, isn't it? If only there was a match type that could accommodate those numbers coming up soon.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Oct 25, 2022 5:55:57 GMT -5
It wasn't great in NXT either Pretty much this. People have rose tinted glasses for Nikki Cross. She's an okay wrestler but like...not exactly world title material, or even remotely close to main event level material. Also the audience is gonna be confused after tonight since Nikki laid out everyone, both face and heel. Nikki in general just isn't going to get over with fans now. There's a reason why they paired her with Alexa, and it was because Nikki at the time was absolutely dead in the water. Her crazy character was her running around making goofy faces. I mean, to each their own, I just didn't love it
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Post by SneakMan on Oct 25, 2022 6:46:47 GMT -5
I love when Triple H undoes something Vince clearly did because he was an uncreative sack of barely chewed steak wraps. No no, the Almost a Super Hero character was totally Nikki's idea and if you don't give it 6 months to play out you're a smarky-smark-smark and the reason the business is dying.
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Post by Hypnosis on Oct 25, 2022 7:00:18 GMT -5
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 25, 2022 7:04:41 GMT -5
It's at worst a lateral move, so I mean, go for it.
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Post by msc on Oct 25, 2022 7:59:31 GMT -5
I like Nikki Cross but the superhero gimmick was a flop so this is a good move.
It's not true I like ALL Scottish wrestlers. The Highlanders existed.
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Post by theironyuppie on Oct 25, 2022 8:18:21 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2022 8:19:58 GMT -5
Nikkeh is pretty much in this to be the fall girl and I do not expect anything else out of her being inserted here.
But also idk how good a move this was considering Liv is also now doing miss crazy sadist over on SD and Dakota is back to being nutty herself now. They are all drawing from the same pool with just tiny differences between them I guess so maybe that is enough to keep them from stepping all over one another with similar acts running around.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 25, 2022 8:23:17 GMT -5
Nikkeh is pretty much in this to be the fall girl and I do not expect anything else out of her being inserted here. But also idk how good a move this was considering Liv is also now doing miss crazy sadist over on SD and Dakota is back to being nutty herself now. They are all drawing from the same pool with just tiny differences between them I guess so maybe that is enough to keep them from stepping all over one another with similar acts running around. I mean, Cross references it in the tweet above, but her bread and butter on the indies was as this “Greatest Wrestler In The Galaxy” comedy weasel heel character, and it’s a shame we’ve seen literally none of that in WWE.
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Post by mistery on Oct 25, 2022 8:46:31 GMT -5
Nikkeh is pretty much in this to be the fall girl and I do not expect anything else out of her being inserted here. But also idk how good a move this was considering Liv is also now doing miss crazy sadist over on SD and Dakota is back to being nutty herself now. They are all drawing from the same pool with just tiny differences between them I guess so maybe that is enough to keep them from stepping all over one another with similar acts running around. Pretty much this. Like...no one is going to buy Nikki as a credible main eventer, especially with how much of a complete disaster her RAW Women's Title run was last year. This just feels like she's being inserted into the feud to eat the pin so they can possibly get the title onto Bayley without her having to pin Bianca or "making Bianca look weak". Also claiming that she's supposed to be a comedy heel character makes it even worse for her, because they should be be in the low end of the card. Not challenging for the world title.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Oct 25, 2022 8:52:34 GMT -5
Oh sweet they're doing something cool with Nikki again? And maybe even her Best in the Galaxy shtick? Always liked Nikki so I might actually have to check this out
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Post by polarbearpete on Oct 25, 2022 9:10:50 GMT -5
Nikkeh is pretty much in this to be the fall girl and I do not expect anything else out of her being inserted here. But also idk how good a move this was considering Liv is also now doing miss crazy sadist over on SD and Dakota is back to being nutty herself now. They are all drawing from the same pool with just tiny differences between them I guess so maybe that is enough to keep them from stepping all over one another with similar acts running around. Pretty much this. Like...no one is going to buy Nikki as a credible main eventer, especially with how much of a complete disaster her RAW Women's Title run was last year. This just feels like she's being inserted into the feud to eat the pin so they can possibly get the title onto Bayley without her having to pin Bianca or "making Bianca look weak". Also claiming that she's supposed to be a comedy heel character makes it even worse for her, because they should be be in the low end of the card. Not challenging for the world title. They can easily build her back up as a credible threat, even if it’s a filler feud for a month or two before Rumble-Mania season.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Oct 25, 2022 9:16:33 GMT -5
I like Nikki but aside from a brief moment in NXT she really only has ever been over with Alexa. Now yes they can build her up as a credible challenger but I do wonder if this is a case of underestimating how much you have to rebuild so many people in the company. There's a handful of people that can go from being treated poorly to bring relevant and not miss a beat. For the men it's KO, Sami, and Riddle for the women it's Asuska and Alexa. Maybe you can throw Alpha Academy in there as well. Legit everybody else needs to be built up again
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