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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Oct 26, 2022 6:23:50 GMT -5
If people go back and watch the shows from whichever year it was, she WAS starting to get a little over with the "Let Nikki play" stuff before they pulled the plug on it. And in her NXT days, the "Nikki has a secret" storyline that played into a Main Roster arc was extremely over Like Nikki can get over, but especially on the main roster, the sentiment is correct, they barely tried and jobbed her out constantly even AS champion. The Nikki A.S.H. character was lame AF, but I'm going to go ahead and say that not everything they did with the character was her idea.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Oct 26, 2022 8:15:12 GMT -5
Yeah the Nikki ASH "push" was... she got her ass kicked and ONLY won via flukey rollup... which can work for a sneaky heel... but you can't do that multiple times for a face as it's showing basically that they are massively out of their depths and lucky. To compare and contrast to Liv Morgan's recent title reign, when she won her matches against people who weren't Ronda Rousey (and she won all of them as champion until she lost the belt), she won them all in the middle with her finisher. Which tells me that the weirdness in the matches with Rousey was more to do with protecting Rousey than it was about kneecapping Morgan. In comparison, they didn't lift a finger for Nikki. And if I said at the time TO give it time (because I'm always going to be that way, sorry), then I'll put my hand up and admit I was wrong. Nikki's title win was followed by Charlotte saying she was going to murder her at.....Summerslam? and then she did.
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Post by mistery on Oct 26, 2022 8:25:01 GMT -5
I do think that at the end of the day, there's no chance that Nikki is getting the title from this. This definitely feels like she's being thrown into the feud to eat the pin. Probably at Crown Jewel. Because they aren't gonna heat up Nikki enough to make her look like an actual threat after almost two years of jobbing. And I feel like they want to put all of the gold onto Damage CTRL until at least Survivor Series. But also don't want Bianca eating another pin either. And I doubt Iyo and Dakota are making the trip to Saudi Arabia. So Bayley would likely have to win clean otherwise, or cleanish if it was a straight up 1 on 1 match.
I think if its a triple threat at Crown Jewel, it'll be Bianca hitting the KOD on Nikki, and then Bayley tosses her (Bianca) out of the ring and steals the victory.
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Post by canceled4truth on Oct 26, 2022 10:48:56 GMT -5
f*** it I hope Nikki stacks and pins all of Damage CTRL like Roman at WrestleMania 37
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Post by gl83 on Oct 26, 2022 10:55:36 GMT -5
I do think that at the end of the day, there's no chance that Nikki is getting the title from this. This definitely feels like she's being thrown into the feud to eat the pin. Probably at Crown Jewel. Because they aren't gonna heat up Nikki enough to make her look like an actual threat after almost two years of jobbing. And I feel like they want to put all of the gold onto Damage CTRL until at least Survivor Series. But also don't want Bianca eating another pin either. And I doubt Iyo and Dakota are making the trip to Saudi Arabia. So Bayley would likely have to win clean otherwise, or cleanish if it was a straight up 1 on 1 match. I think if its a triple threat at Crown Jewel, it'll be Bianca hitting the KOD on Nikki, and then Bayley tosses her (Bianca) out of the ring and steals the victory. ......could also be a way to keep the feud going with a Bianca title retention without Bayley taking a pinfall loss.....
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Post by J is Justice on Oct 26, 2022 11:08:17 GMT -5
f*** it I hope Nikki stacks and pins all of Damage CTRL like Roman at WrestleMania 37
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Post by canceled4truth on Oct 26, 2022 14:34:45 GMT -5
f*** it I hope Nikki stacks and pins all of Damage CTRL like Roman at WrestleMania 37 Fair counterpoint.
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Post by mistery on Oct 29, 2022 20:32:04 GMT -5
Apparently Nikki at tonight's house show was in her pre Nikki ASH attire, but also...uh...had the worst entrance theme possible. It makes Damage CTRL's theme sound great.
Also announced for RAW on Monday is apparently Bianca Belair vs Nikki Cross.
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Post by theironyuppie on Oct 29, 2022 20:40:01 GMT -5
Apparently Nikki at tonight's house show was in her pre Nikki ASH attire, but also...uh...had the worst entrance theme possible. It makes Damage CTRL's theme sound great. Also announced for RAW on Monday is apparently Bianca Belair vs Nikki Cross.
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Post by asuka007 on Oct 29, 2022 21:46:58 GMT -5
I mean Nikki has to win right?
If she loses, you kill the new character right out of the gate.
MAYBE they could have her get DQ’ed for being too unhinged and violent (although they’re already doing that with Liv right now)?
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Post by mistery on Oct 29, 2022 22:40:02 GMT -5
I mean Nikki has to win right? If she loses, you kill the new character right out of the gate. MAYBE they could have her get DQ’ed for being too unhinged and violent (although they’re already doing that with Liv right now)? Damage CTRL interferes for the no contest, but this new Nikki character isn't going to get over in my opinion. They've spent the better part of 1.5 years handing her nothing but loss after loss after loss. Hell in 2022 alone, she's only won two matches, and both of which were tag matches where she was dead in the water and Doudrop had to save her. I feel like she's pretty much been cemented as a midcarder for life. Her big character idea that she heavily pushed for backstage bombed hard even after giving her a world title run where literally no one liked her or asked for her to get a world title run as Nikki ASH. Also at tonight's house show in Mexico, she interfered in Bianca/Bayley, laying everyone out, to complete and utter apathy apparently, and the audience had been hot for pretty much everything else that night until that point.
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Post by gl83 on Oct 29, 2022 23:00:09 GMT -5
I mean Nikki has to win right? If she loses, you kill the new character right out of the gate. MAYBE they could have her get DQ’ed for being too unhinged and violent (although they’re already doing that with Liv right now)? Damage CTRL interferes for the no contest, but this new Nikki character isn't going to get over in my opinion. They've spent the better part of 1.5 years handing her nothing but loss after loss after loss. Hell in 2022 alone, she's only won two matches, and both of which were tag matches where she was dead in the water and Doudrop had to save her. I feel like she's pretty much been cemented as a midcarder for life. Her big character idea that she heavily pushed for backstage bombed hard even after giving her a world title run where literally no one liked her or asked for her to get a world title run as Nikki ASH. Also at tonight's house show in Mexico, she interfered in Bianca/Bayley, laying everyone out, to complete and utter apathy apparently, and the audience had been hot for pretty much everything else that night until that point. It's odd that they're having Bayley vs Bianca be a Last (wo)Man Standing match. I don't think their feud is heated enough for that type of stipulation. But, after seeing these house show results, what do you think are the odds that Nikki takes out both Bayley and Bianca resulting in a No Contest as neither makes it up to the count of 10.
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Post by mistery on Oct 29, 2022 23:10:58 GMT -5
Damage CTRL interferes for the no contest, but this new Nikki character isn't going to get over in my opinion. They've spent the better part of 1.5 years handing her nothing but loss after loss after loss. Hell in 2022 alone, she's only won two matches, and both of which were tag matches where she was dead in the water and Doudrop had to save her. I feel like she's pretty much been cemented as a midcarder for life. Her big character idea that she heavily pushed for backstage bombed hard even after giving her a world title run where literally no one liked her or asked for her to get a world title run as Nikki ASH. Also at tonight's house show in Mexico, she interfered in Bianca/Bayley, laying everyone out, to complete and utter apathy apparently, and the audience had been hot for pretty much everything else that night until that point. It's odd that they're having Bayley vs Bianca be a Last (wo)Man Standing match. I don't think their feud is heated enough for that type of stipulation. But, after seeing these house show results, what do you think are the odds that Nikki takes out both Bayley and Bianca resulting in a No Contest as neither makes it up to the count of 10. That would be outstandingly dumb, and I don't think they are gonna fly Nikki over just to do that. She isn't exactly a main event level talent, she's like a lower midcard tier talent at best. Dakota has very strongly hinted that her and Iyo are going to be over in Saudi Arabia next week, which is why I think they are going to switch the title there. And then you have Nikki as a filler challenger for Bayley. Because we've already seen Bianca beat Nikki like 12,176 times over like a two year period, and a Nikki/Bianca feud would be an incredibly cold feud no matter how you slice it.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 31, 2022 19:22:28 GMT -5
Why of course they end Raw on her having a big reinvention where she lays everyone out and then the start of the very next show is her getting Bianca'd. Why would you expect things to make sense?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 31, 2022 19:34:18 GMT -5
Why of course they end Raw on her having a big reinvention where she lays everyone out and then the start of the very next show is her getting Bianca'd. Why would you expect things to make sense? I'm beyond tired of Super Bianca tbh. I hated the way she lost to Becky at Summerslam but this is obnoxious super booking since after Mania especially.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 31, 2022 22:48:14 GMT -5
Nikki's entire involvement in this storyline is in the end, completely baffling, just look at the steps in a single week:
- She beats both Damage CTRL and Bianca, looks like her old gimmick is back, stands tall to end RAW
- Next week, opens up the show and fights Bianca with her old gimmick back and a new theme song
- Then Bianca then gets attacked by Damage CTRL during the match, who completely no sell Nikki beating their asses a week ago, to try and help Nikki win for some reason
- Nikki IMMEDIATELY loses to Bianca despite this, and is a complete afterthought for the rest of the night, never mentioned or seen again despite multiple segments with Bianca and Damage CTRL throughout the night. No explanation as to why she even did what she did.
Like... this really is the kind of shit I'd expect from Vince booking, not the new regime, but it feels no different, a complete bungled mess.
Nikki Cross booking is just incredibly bungled every single time.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Nov 1, 2022 4:50:02 GMT -5
Apparently Nikki at tonight's house show was in her pre Nikki ASH attire, but also...uh...had the worst entrance theme possible. It makes Damage CTRL's theme sound great. Also announced for RAW on Monday is apparently Bianca Belair vs Nikki Cross. Okay a theme for Nikki Cross, as in actual crazy & violent Nikki Cross, needs to be a metal track. Something like Mayhem by Halestorm for example.
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Post by asuka007 on Nov 1, 2022 5:02:58 GMT -5
She returns, jobs to Super-Bianca, and is irrelevant for the rest of th show.
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Nov 1, 2022 5:17:38 GMT -5
Seriously, f**k Bianca. I honestly never liked her but ever since she "won" the Royal Rumble (HER FEET TOUCHED THE GROUND GOD DAMN IT) and winning at Wrestlemania I find her so infuriating.
Now this was either a Match that you actually make Nikki win, which she should have or have Nikki get DQ'd for being back to her unhinged Sanity ways so you don't screw things up right away. Also why have Damage CTRL even do anything.
Seriously when will they learn to either stop f**king up at the very beginning of a new character change or make some of their stars be extremely "Super Cena" like
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Post by Sephiroth on Nov 1, 2022 6:25:05 GMT -5
And in her NXT days, the "Nikki has a secret" storyline that played into a Main Roster arc was extremely over Like Nikki can get over, but especially on the main roster, the sentiment is correct, they barely tried and jobbed her out constantly even AS champion. The Nikki A.S.H. character was lame AF, but I'm going to go ahead and say that not everything they did with the character was her idea. She actually did a good job playing the role of naive and childlike as Alexa’s stooge, so a character aimed at the kids wasn’t actually a terrible idea for her. And with sone better writing and an actual push I believe she could have made it work.
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