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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 31, 2021 5:34:44 GMT -5
I can't speak for everyone else, but the reveal of them covering up Ashley Massaro's sexual assault did it for me among other messed up dirty laundry airings. That was the final straw for me
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Post by Glitch on Jul 31, 2021 7:50:20 GMT -5
Trips' reign of terror.
The invasion angle was bad, but there was at least some logic with Vince wanting his guys over (even if it's really bad logic). The reign of terror served absolutely no purpose other than stroking the ego of triple h. It was there that the wwe told everyone that they'll do whatever they want, regardless if anybody actually likes it. I don't care if it's 19 years ago, trips still deserves to be reminded of how shameful he was for doing that.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jul 31, 2021 16:01:19 GMT -5
For me personally, it was the Guest Host Era, so.....2009? 2010? I suffered through a lot as a fan before that, but that was what pushed me away, pretty much for good. It was absolutely embarrassing, and I could no longer justify to anyone else (or myself!) wasting time watching it.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jul 31, 2021 17:45:26 GMT -5
For me personally, it was the Guest Host Era, so.....2009? 2010? I suffered through a lot as a fan before that, but that was what pushed me away, pretty much for good. It was absolutely embarrassing, and I could no longer justify to anyone else (or myself!) wasting time watching it. I’m still totally puzzled by why they chose Buzz Aldrin for a show in Canada. It’s an odd f***ing choice no matter what, hey we love him in Canada too, but, there’s way better places to trot him out.
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Post by Triangle Lancer on Jul 31, 2021 20:21:00 GMT -5
For me personally, it was the Guest Host Era, so.....2009? 2010? I suffered through a lot as a fan before that, but that was what pushed me away, pretty much for good. It was absolutely embarrassing, and I could no longer justify to anyone else (or myself!) wasting time watching it. This was around the same time when SmackDown wrestlers would start getting over and...end up on Raw for no reason other than Raw is the A-show. When I stopped watching SmackDown, that was it.
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Post by Zutroy on Jul 31, 2021 20:58:56 GMT -5
For me personally it’s the constant misuse of talent I enjoy. Every single time I think here’s someone or something I can get behind they just ruin it. Whether it’s The Nexus, Punk, Bryan, Christian and now Bray Wyatt. I’m just sad at this point, I’ve travelled to Wrestlemania from the UK on 3 occasions and I just don’t ever want to watch it again now. There’s nothing there for a 37 year old like me anymore. There’s no point in getting behind anyone because they’ll likely be gone or buried beyond belief at some point.
It was this bad once before in 94/95 and that’s when I discovered WCW and I never returned to WWE until they bought them out and even then I didn’t like what they did with my WCW guys.
To pinpoint exactly when it went really down the pan for me was The Rock’s return, it started a trend of putting yesterday’s stars ahead of anyone current, The Miz, Punk, Owens and others have had to make way for Goldberg and whoever else just comes in for a pay check.
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Post by noobeast on Jul 31, 2021 23:35:04 GMT -5
Benoit.
I had already been starting to not enjoy the shows, but was watching out of habit.
Having gone through the Attitude Era and the constant deaths...Benoit just kinda finished it off.
I have genuinely not watched an entire Raw or Smackdown since. I would watch NXT and PPVs here and there, but I canceled my subscription when the news about them adding time to Brodie's contract came out and have refused to spend a dime on them since.
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Post by jason1980s on Jul 31, 2021 23:36:01 GMT -5
I’m still totally puzzled by why they chose Buzz Aldrin for a show in Canada. It’s an odd f***ing choice no matter what, hey we love him in Canada too, but, there’s way better places to trot him out. I'm sure it was meant to troll the Canadian fans with WWE bringing out this American hero. Didn't Slaughter guest host too and got the fans all excited thinking Bret was coming out when it was Jim Duggan.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2021 2:28:31 GMT -5
2009 was the first year I thought to myself "Okay... These weekly shows f***ing suck."
They went full PG during that time, Hornswoggle was all over the show, Guest Hosts, Cena vs Orton x25148, the Divas were having crappy 2 minute matches... it was just an awful time to watch.
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Aug 1, 2021 6:11:45 GMT -5
Trips' reign of terror. The invasion angle was bad, but there was at least some logic with Vince wanting his guys over (even if it's really bad logic). The reign of terror served absolutely no purpose other than stroking the ego of triple h. It was there that the wwe told everyone that they'll do whatever they want, regardless if anybody actually likes it. I don't care if it's 19 years ago, trips still deserves to be reminded of how shameful he was for doing that. What really compounded the awfulness of this was that with Austin being what he was at the time and The Rock pivoting to becoming an actor who did a bit of wrestling rather than vice versa, there was a need for new main event faces, and the response to this was for Triple H to torpedo the pushes of the best candidates. Even if someone did eventually beat him you didn't care, because you knew that he'd get his win back at the next PPV and normal service would resume, so him doing jobs and losing the title was completely meaningless.
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Post by J. Hova on Aug 1, 2021 17:52:47 GMT -5
This is going to be long and I'm going to give some context. I started watching wrestling when I was six. I'm 36 now. I lived through the New Generation, Attitude Era, Monday Night Wars, Ruthless Aggression, Reign of Terror, Reality Era, etc. I watched RAW religiously for over 20 years. I mean, I can count on one hand how many episodes I missed from 1993 to 2018. I haven't watched a full episode since summer 2018. I didn't watch a lot of Smackdown since I was usually working or had something else going those nights.
As a lot of people have pointed out, it wasn't a singular thing that did it to me but the cumulative. This is a poor analogy but is the only one I can think of. It is like being in an abusive relationship. You remember the good times and forget about the abuse until much past the point that you should have left. Here are the items I can think of that killed the WWE for me.
1. The Invasion Angle debacle. I know there was contractual problems with the Time Warner stuff, but who said you had to start the angle 6 days after you bought the place? You don't need everyone but you can sure milk it a bit and have the big time players come in 8, 10, 12, or 16 months later and print money from that angle. I wanted to see Sting, Flair, Goldberg, and the NWO invade, not Mark Jindrak. 2. The Reign of Terror. I don't agree with everything Cornette says but he hit the nail on the head when he said HHH doesn't draw money, he works with the ones who draw money. There is nothing wrong with that. To put HHH in a position where he is beating everyone and going over in every feud is just poor booking since there was never a payoff. Every time you thought there was a payoff, HHH wins, often in convincing fashion (see T, Booker). 3. Creative writers. How many times have we heard the phrase from a wrestler who was released, "Creative had nothing for me...."? Literally, it is their job to come up with ideas and they fail time and time again. I actually blame Vince Russo and the manner he left for this. After that, VKM was never going to put all of his eggs in one basket. In the history of pro wrestling, a booking committee has never worked creatively and yet the biggest, most successful company ever works with a broken model. The fact that a member of the McMahon family has either been directly or indirectly in charge of that department and it has been creatively bankrupt for at least a decade is the biggest indictment against this model I've ever seen. 4. Benoit. I was and still am a huge Chris Benoit, the wrestler, fan. It took me a long time to be able to enjoy his matches after what he did. I was finally able to do it as I realized he was a sick man. It doesn't excuse what he did, but I cannot completely place the blame on him when his brain was essentially mush. The WWE reaction to this was abysmal. 5. Pipebomb. I was so excited when this happened. I thought I had seen this generation's "Austin 3:16" moment and then....meh. They could have made a mint off of this and the summer of Punk. Instead they botched it at nearly every juncture. 6. Their hatred of their fans. I lumped this all into one since there are so many examples. They treat their fans like they are mentally impaired 8 year olds who are told what to like, what not to like, and punished if they don't do things exactly how they want it. The constant shoving down our throats of face Reigns, hatred of the YES movement, 9.99 for the network promos, etc.
I missed a RAW in the summer of 2018 and realized I didn't miss anything, then I missed the next week, and just continued. I still watch the occasional PPV and don't think I'll ever miss WM. I'll catch up if the mood strikes me on "This week in WWE" or just catch some clips on YT.
This sounds really cold, but I just cannot see myself becoming a regular WWE viewer again until HHH and Steph take over which won't happen until VKM is no longer with us.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Aug 1, 2021 22:17:42 GMT -5
I’m still totally puzzled by why they chose Buzz Aldrin for a show in Canada. It’s an odd f***ing choice no matter what, hey we love him in Canada too, but, there’s way better places to trot him out. I'm sure it was meant to troll the Canadian fans with WWE bringing out this American hero. Didn't Slaughter guest host too and got the fans all excited thinking Bret was coming out when it was Jim Duggan. Yes, deliberately trying to kill the town was certainly a choice.
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Post by gts on Aug 2, 2021 9:49:36 GMT -5
Katie Vick was the last straw for me. I stopped watching for a longtime.
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