Renslayer
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Post by Renslayer on Dec 22, 2021 20:08:54 GMT -5
Ok, finished the episode, some random thoughts - {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I really have a hard time believing this is the same Kingpin from the Netflix shows. This Kingpin is much more colorful and flamboyant then his constantly brooding Netflix counterpart. And Vanessa would never let him leave the house in that white suit/white hat/Hawaiian shirt/cane combo. It could just be character growth, but it feels like too much of a departure. Plus he seemed to have super-powers, which I don't remember Netflix Kingpin having.
And yes, I hope Maya killed him dead dead dead and he never comes back. Now we can have a proper Daredevil story where he's in San Francisco dating Heather Glenn and battling time-traveling robot assassins like Daredevil is supposed to!
They didn't ruin the episode or anything, but I could've done without the LARPer's. It was a joke that wasn't all that funny to begin with that outstayed its welcome.
Jack is still the greatest thing ever. I hope he returns in more projects. It doesn't even have to be a superhero show, give the character a variety show or something on Disney+.
So they just destroyed the Ronin suit on a BBQ? I would think Clint would've been genre savvy enough to make it fire-resistant in the first place. Did he really think none of the mobsters he was hunting were gonna have flamethrowers? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} I suspect if they do another season Jack will be there. I had my suspicions and confirmed them that he's the MCU version of the character Swordsman. However, I doubt we'll ever see him in costume or adopt that identity.
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{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} I suspect this version of Kingpin is closer to the comics version, that entire getup is lifted straight from his traditional comics look. That said he's always been portrayed as quite strong. Despite looking fat he actually has very low body fat and the rest is solid muscle which makes him quite durable and upper end of non-super human strength. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}
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Post by Heartbreaker on Dec 22, 2021 20:19:02 GMT -5
Great finale for a great show. It seems that the shows I go into expecting less end up being the best ones: Hawkeye, Loki. Not that the other shows are bad, but these are solid. Hope we get to see more of Kate and Yelena together. They give me such sister vibes. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Imagine thinking a bullet is going to take down Kingpin LMAO.
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Post by Scooterdust on Dec 22, 2021 22:25:48 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}I absolutely love that Adam Pascal is officially in MCU canon, and yes, it was way better than Turn Off The Dark.
I was hoping for Yelena wanting to meet Clint's family, and possibly fill the "Auntie Nat" role.
Is it me or did D'onofrio deepen his voice more since the DD series? because I swear he always sounded like he had the meat sweats.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Dec 22, 2021 22:36:53 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} The salt I'm reading over Kingpin being "dead". The crème de la cringe. {Spoiler}Some Agents fans are also overreacting to the reveal that Laura was Agent 19 which was Bobbi Morse’s agent number. They never officially said she was Bobbi Morse under an alias nor did they go one way or the other to prove the Netflix shows were canon or not. We’re pretty much still in the “come to your own conclusions” middle ground. I still don’t think Laura is Bobbi and Feige respects the show and it’s fans. Marvel TV did have to get the ok before using any characters so they had the ok to use Bobbi. Hopefully they respect that and use some of the ideas out there.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 22, 2021 23:40:31 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Some Agents fans are also overreacting to the reveal that Laura was Agent 19 which was Bobbi Morse’s agent number. {Spoiler}You don't say? The #NoyMyMockingbird hashtag is pretty wild.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Dec 23, 2021 2:31:29 GMT -5
The only thing that I really saw in Episode 6 hinting at Daredevil being canon was… {Spoiler}…Kingpin deciding he needs to remind the city that it belongs to him.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Dec 23, 2021 8:56:13 GMT -5
The only thing that I really saw in Episode 6 hinting at Daredevil being canon was… {Spoiler}{Spoiler}…Kingpin deciding he needs to remind the city that it belongs to him. And that could very easily be a throw away line referencing damn near anything affecting his control on the city.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Dec 23, 2021 9:11:47 GMT -5
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Kate came off a bit sanctimonious with her mum. Like, yeah, she did bad things, but only cos her hero dad was in with the scum to begin with.
{Spoiler}The dialogue suggests she was working for Kingpin even after her husband's debts were paid off and she only decided to get out when Kate was threatened./ {Spoiler}
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2021 9:21:46 GMT -5
I trashed it earlier in the thread, but I binged the whole thing and it wasn't that bad. I felt a lot like Kate around Yelena: "Stop making me like you."
My biggest beef was that a certain character from another series seems a little less scary and more like a typical MCU villain now.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Dec 23, 2021 9:31:06 GMT -5
Also to hell with the Echo show, I need a Kate and Yolena show NOW!
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Post by Duke Cameron on Dec 23, 2021 11:59:15 GMT -5
I couldn’t stand Yelena. The world was going to hell when Thanos was around and yet she finds it so hard to believe that Black Widow’s death was her own choice? Also, that accent is horrible, but that has more to do with her performance and not the character. She was the only thing about the show I didn’t like.
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Rican
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Post by Rican on Dec 23, 2021 12:38:33 GMT -5
Also to hell with the Echo show, I need a Kate and Yolena show NOW! Was coming to say the same thing haha. All of their interactions were awesome. I want more
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Post by Rolent Tex on Dec 23, 2021 12:56:00 GMT -5
The only thing that I really saw in Episode 6 hinting at Daredevil being canon was… {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}…Kingpin deciding he needs to remind the city that it belongs to him. And that could very easily be a throw away line referencing damn near anything affecting his control on the city. Yup. I think they purposely left it that way.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Dec 23, 2021 12:59:29 GMT -5
I trashed it earlier in the thread, but I binged the whole thing and it wasn't that bad. I felt a lot like Kate around Yelena: "Stop making me like you." My biggest beef was that a certain character from another series seems a little less scary and more like a typical MCU villain now. {Spoiler}I wouldn’t say he’s less scary honestly. Dude got shot with arrows, blown up, hit by a car and barely phased him. Hell he definitely survived two bullets too.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Dec 23, 2021 13:43:14 GMT -5
The only thing I want out of the Echo show is her and Matt Murdoch going on a blind (heh) date. Oh the shenanigans that would ensure!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2021 20:39:22 GMT -5
I trashed it earlier in the thread, but I binged the whole thing and it wasn't that bad. I felt a lot like Kate around Yelena: "Stop making me like you." My biggest beef was that a certain character from another series seems a little less scary and more like a typical MCU villain now. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I wouldn’t say he’s less scary honestly. Dude got shot with arrows, blown up, hit by a car and barely phased him. Hell he definitely survived two bullets too. I mean more in terms of his intimidating personality and brutality. He's totally still a tough bad ass. That fedora and Hawaiian shirt made him look less tough though, lol.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 23, 2021 22:47:58 GMT -5
So, that wardrobe choice? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}D'Onofrio pushed for that.
Also, {Spoiler}as far as D'Onofrio, the writers, and directors are concerned, this is the same Kingpin as before, he's just lost a lot of his powerbase in the Blip and is still in the process of rebuilding.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Dec 23, 2021 23:39:50 GMT -5
So, that wardrobe choice? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}D'Onofrio pushed for that.
Also, {Spoiler}{Spoiler}as far as D'Onofrio, the writers, and directors are concerned, this is the same Kingpin as before, he's just lost a lot of his powerbase in the Blip and is still in the process of rebuilding.
Now we just need a confirmation concerning one other character and we’re set.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Dec 23, 2021 23:40:39 GMT -5
The only thing I want out of the Echo show is her and Matt Murdoch going on a blind (heh) date. Oh the shenanigans that would ensure! Thing is she could speak in the comics couldn’t she?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2021 0:09:04 GMT -5
The only thing I want out of the Echo show is her and Matt Murdoch going on a blind (heh) date. Oh the shenanigans that would ensure! They did that in the very first storyline she appeared in. They went and saw Mall rats in the theater and pissed everyone else off by describing the movie to each other.
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