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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 10, 2021 10:39:56 GMT -5
I've never been a big fan of him
For me, a guy that big just doing moves and selling like a guy half his size is going to take something out of him
With AEW getting more and more talent, people like him and possible Archer could be left hanging. This is going to be the give and take. As WWE loses guys like Bryan, Cole and maybe KO, they will probably pick up a Cage, or whoever else may feel like their options is better elsewhere
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 10:58:16 GMT -5
The 'E will never touch him - dude's looks like a walking steroid.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Sept 10, 2021 11:11:21 GMT -5
He been used fine, he was given chances, I mean his second matches was a World title match. FTW belt with Team Tazz but as someone pointed out Starks just out shined him by having some much charisma. Brock had something about him, that connected him with fans. Brian Cage isn't the same level as Brock for several reasons. 1, Brock always was a freak of nature athlete, at near 300 pounds of muscle at 6 foot 4 but moved like half his size when he debut. Than he went on and became a top guy in the UFC making him a legit badass. Cage at 6'0 doesn't say that and doesn't have the MMA or wrestling background that Brock does. Cage is good but he missing the "it" factor to be a top guy. AEW given him a good role, that he wins more than he loses and is featured a lot.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 10, 2021 11:20:02 GMT -5
The 'E will never touch him - dude's looks like a walking steroid. They did have EC3
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Post by Dub H on Sept 10, 2021 12:07:59 GMT -5
The 'E will never touch him - dude's looks like a walking steroid. They did have EC3 And Jinder ,as world champion,at peak steroid.
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Post by y4j1981 on Sept 10, 2021 15:18:05 GMT -5
Again, still doesn't answer my question
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Post by Convoy on Sept 10, 2021 16:39:43 GMT -5
Ricky Starks liked the following:
Can’t say I disagree. He’s the complete package, and there’s a reason Punk named him as someone to face coming out of retirement.
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Post by Hypnosis on Sept 10, 2021 16:47:58 GMT -5
Cage sounds like Scott Steiner there.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 10, 2021 16:57:28 GMT -5
Ricky Starks liked the following: Can’t say I disagree. He’s the complete package, and there’s a reason Punk named him as someone to face coming out of retirement. And I mean it's not even wrong... I don't think Cage has cut a promo that well in his whole career.
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Post by Blade on Sept 10, 2021 19:33:51 GMT -5
Man, lots of salt about Cage in this thread.
His big highlight matches were, to me, the cinematic match with Sting and Darby and the two Hangman matches. In both of them he showed he was absolutely a top tier performer when properly highlighted. Given that, yeah, he's absolutely misused as a directionless midcarder, which is what he is (and so was Archer before he won one match with Mox and vanished).
Is there an argument that the top is so loaded that it's hard to find room for Cage? Sure. But that's a fault of AEW, not Cage. Somebody that looks like him yet also wrestles like him is a unique performer and could absolutely be better featured. Why shouldn't he be frustrated at taking the L in every feud for a year?
Does Cage feel important right now? No. Should he? Yes. So no matter the understandable reasons, it's equally understandable if he's not happy with his current spot.
Also, people seem to think that Cage should just accept that X or Y are better than him and get over it, but wrestling is an ego-driven business. Very few humble guys make it to the top (Bryan notwithstanding, and even he has Strong Opinions about a lot of stuff). It's intrinsic to pretending to fight in your underwear and being confident people want to see you do it.
"If you don't believe in your heart of hearts that you are the best, no matter what anyone else says, then what are you doing?" - Bret Hart
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Post by Fade on Sept 10, 2021 19:40:03 GMT -5
Gonna be honest, considering the guys lack of Charisma, AEW and Tony have gone above the call of duty in cementing him as “pretty formidable hoss”. It’ll be interesting to see what/where he goes when the contract’s up.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Sept 10, 2021 19:46:53 GMT -5
The Brock Lesnar comparison amuses me.
Cage is more talented than Brock, but Brock just has that intangible "it factor" about him. Even as a rookie he had it.
Cage has never been one that I was like "oh shit I need to watch this dude".
Not in LU, not in AEW. He's just kinda bland, and being paired with Ricky "Has the charisma of a 1000 goddam suns" Starks just showed how outclassed he was.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 10, 2021 20:02:24 GMT -5
The Brock Lesnar comparison amuses me. Cage is more talented than Brock, but Brock just has that intangible "it factor" about him. Even as a rookie he had it. Cage has never been one that I was like "oh shit I need to watch this dude". Not in LU, not in AEW. He's just kinda bland, and being paired with Ricky "Has the charisma of a 1000 goddam suns" Starks just showed how outclassed he was. You could say even without mic skills,besides looking like a beast, Lesnar just gets the small things of wrestling too.Cage has more impressive moves but Lesnar gets the small things Cage doesnt.
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Post by Blade on Sept 10, 2021 20:35:28 GMT -5
"Well, he's not Brock Lesnar!" isn't exactly a damning indictment of someone, though? Brock isn't even a once in a generation talent, he's more of a Once Ever talent.
Aside from that, I find it interesting people keep talking like Starks is a sure fire main eventer, which is odd given his thoroughly midcard push and everything I've seen from him match and promo-wise so far (which, to be clear, is not BAD or anything, just... not exactly setting the world on fire unless awkwardly shoehorning "Absolute" into promos is the criteria).
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Post by Cyno on Sept 10, 2021 20:52:20 GMT -5
The only reason the Lesnar comparison even came up is because the OP had a quotation that said he should be treated like Lesnar. And hell, Brock Lesnar being treated like Brock Lesnar was a big part of what turned me off from WWE. I wouldn't want the Great Value version of him who has no understanding of in-ring psychology doing the same in AEW.
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Post by Fade on Sept 10, 2021 20:59:36 GMT -5
The only reason the Lesnar comparison even came up is because the OP had a quotation that said he should be treated like Lesnar. Which is just ridiculous. Lesnar is Lesnar. He’s an endgame, proven draw, has crossover appeal (and as people have mentioned has his own unique charisma), Cage isn’t any of that. He’s a damn good capable hoss in the ring who lacks mic skills and charisma. So again..they’ve done about the best they could with him. He’s Goldar or Bepop or a Rocksteady (minus the comedy). That isn’t the worst “spot” or “role” to have in wrestling but again..here’s to him being the star he thinks he is somewhere else.
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Post by knightboat on Sept 10, 2021 21:17:12 GMT -5
Check out his before and after pics, the guy is gassed to the gills. I say that as someone who likes his work, but is disappointed that he's a terrible person.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 23:07:44 GMT -5
I haven't really been impressed by him so I'll be honest, I don't care. Hell even in that video with Starks cutting that promo Cage looked outta place. You're supposed to be the big dude, the tough guy, why you falling in line when your homie's cutting a promo? It's like when Rock was in The Nation cutting those promos as a rookie with his dudes behind him. They supported him, they respected him but they weren't acting like fans of his, it's just an optics presentation.
He's got a good look but that about it. He feels like one of those early/mid-00s WWE wrestlers who Vince always threw in randomly to see if we'll like him.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 10, 2021 23:12:35 GMT -5
Cage should take Cole's spot in NXT and win the title. All of Adam Cole's NXT appearances should have Brian Cage superimposed over them Brian Cage actually formed the Undisputed Era!
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Post by Blade on Sept 11, 2021 8:49:15 GMT -5
You're supposed to be the big dude, the tough guy, why you falling in line when your homie's cutting a promo? Yeah, that's definitely never happened before in wrestling!
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