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Post by Fake Jesus on Nov 24, 2022 17:18:59 GMT -5
We all have our own standards. I don't see any problem with preferring wrestlers to look like WWE All Stars characters; I do see a problem with broadcasting that because oh my f***ing god it's so goddamn banal. Take it to YouTube and whine into the void with the pg sux crowd, no one needs to read this trivial shit
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Post by Fake Jesus on Nov 24, 2022 17:21:31 GMT -5
I know people weren't too happy with Hobbs smashing him and shit, but it did a really good job of putting a lot of sympathy onto Starks that he parlayed into this great underdog tournament run. Hopefully he's 'healed up' in kayfabe for the MJF match, even if I fully suspect he won't be/he'll get attacked again, but they've done a great job at transitioning him into a sympathetic face who is perfectly primed for MJF to get booed against. For as much as the crowd has cheered MJF lately, I have the fullest faith that Ricky will get MJF booed and that that should be a big proving moment for him in the eyes of the company. This should be the kind of push where he ends up higher on the card than he was when he started it. One thing TK has been good at is setting up "obstacles" for guys. I fully expect Hobbs and Starks for the world title some day |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 24, 2022 17:22:51 GMT -5
Starks has comparisons to The Rock because he looks and dresses like him. In terms of charisma or talent, he's nowhere near. Rock had more size aswell. He was believable as a main eventer, facing the likes of Kane, Big Show and Taker. People can say what they want but I am never buying that this guy could beat the likes of Hobbs, Archer and Cage. And neither were my casual friends who in their words said "That's embarrassing" when Archer lost. Imagine what the rest of the casuals are thinking when they tune in and watch AEW for the first time? If AEW want to grow their brand, that's who they need to be impressing after all. Negan, I am begging you, an entire thread got locked over how hard so many people disagree with you about this There are thousands of screaming fans for Ricky Starks, have you considered that believability isn't objective? Have you considered that all of those thousands of people and we who disagreed in that thread 'don't count' because Craig Guywhosreal believes a pro wrestler is 6'20 and scoffed when he saw a guy who looks human-shaped? Because sure those thousands of people bought tickets, we tuned in to the show, but Craig Guywhosreal is the heart of our society and if he's not into this one specific hobby then it's really just a niche failure. |
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Post by Fade on Nov 24, 2022 17:29:43 GMT -5
I know people weren't too happy with Hobbs smashing him and shit, but it did a really good job of putting a lot of sympathy onto Starks that he parlayed into this great underdog tournament run. Hopefully he's 'healed up' in kayfabe for the MJF match, even if I fully suspect he won't be/he'll get attacked again, but they've done a great job at transitioning him into a sympathetic face who is perfectly primed for MJF to get booed against. For as much as the crowd has cheered MJF lately, I have the fullest faith that Ricky will get MJF booed and that that should be a big proving moment for him in the eyes of the company. This should be the kind of push where he ends up higher on the card than he was when he started it. One thing TK has been good at is setting up "obstacles" for guys. I fully expect Hobbs and Starks for the world title some day I know, I know, I know that both have barely begun their single runs but maaaaan I really hope they team up again some day. I miss Hobbs & Ricky together. Great duo. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 24, 2022 17:37:20 GMT -5
I know people weren't too happy with Hobbs smashing him and shit, but it did a really good job of putting a lot of sympathy onto Starks that he parlayed into this great underdog tournament run. Hopefully he's 'healed up' in kayfabe for the MJF match, even if I fully suspect he won't be/he'll get attacked again, but they've done a great job at transitioning him into a sympathetic face who is perfectly primed for MJF to get booed against. For as much as the crowd has cheered MJF lately, I have the fullest faith that Ricky will get MJF booed and that that should be a big proving moment for him in the eyes of the company. This should be the kind of push where he ends up higher on the card than he was when he started it. I liked it and it was believable Hobbs is bigger and stronger than Starks. Starks while most likely being smaller and quicker, he was emotional and irrational. Make mistakes and get f**ed up which is what happen. It added a clear obstacle in his path and also gave vindication to Hobbs for wanting to leave Starks |
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Nov 24, 2022 17:43:37 GMT -5
I know people weren't too happy with Hobbs smashing him and shit, but it did a really good job of putting a lot of sympathy onto Starks that he parlayed into this great underdog tournament run. Hopefully he's 'healed up' in kayfabe for the MJF match, even if I fully suspect he won't be/he'll get attacked again, but they've done a great job at transitioning him into a sympathetic face who is perfectly primed for MJF to get booed against. For as much as the crowd has cheered MJF lately, I have the fullest faith that Ricky will get MJF booed and that that should be a big proving moment for him in the eyes of the company. This should be the kind of push where he ends up higher on the card than he was when he started it. I liked it and it was believable Hobbs is bigger and stronger than Starks. Starks while most likely being smaller and quicker, he was emotional and irrational. Make mistakes and get f**ed up which is what happen. It added a clear obstacle in his path and also gave vindication to Hobbs for wanting to leave Starks It's also a feather in Hobbs' cap that puts him over even in losing the feud: this dude can and will put away his peers like they're jobbers. That's a good example of the feud loser picking up a solid accomplishment along the way, and it's now an established well that AEW can go to again with Hobbs - next time it happens, well, that's just what Hobbs can do. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 24, 2022 17:47:04 GMT -5
I know people weren't too happy with Hobbs smashing him and shit, but it did a really good job of putting a lot of sympathy onto Starks that he parlayed into this great underdog tournament run. Hopefully he's 'healed up' in kayfabe for the MJF match, even if I fully suspect he won't be/he'll get attacked again, but they've done a great job at transitioning him into a sympathetic face who is perfectly primed for MJF to get booed against. For as much as the crowd has cheered MJF lately, I have the fullest faith that Ricky will get MJF booed and that that should be a big proving moment for him in the eyes of the company. This should be the kind of push where he ends up higher on the card than he was when he started it. I liked it and it was believable Hobbs is bigger and stronger than Starks. Starks while most likely being smaller and quicker, he was emotional and irrational. Make mistakes and get f**ed up which is what happen. It added a clear obstacle in his path and also gave vindication to Hobbs for wanting to leave Starks What I saw was mostly dissatisfaction with it being a squash, and I get that. But especially now that we've seen the trajectories these took, this was a real good call. It set them both onto paths where one became an instantly credible monster and the other found a good foundation to become a bit more of an underdog. Starks is just obviously great, obviously strong, obviously fast, but it gave him a lot of much-needed vulnerability to have to power through and it rounds him out really well to have trait. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 24, 2022 17:53:59 GMT -5
I liked it and it was believable Hobbs is bigger and stronger than Starks. Starks while most likely being smaller and quicker, he was emotional and irrational. Make mistakes and get f**ed up which is what happen. It added a clear obstacle in his path and also gave vindication to Hobbs for wanting to leave Starks , and I get that. But especially now that we've seen the trajectories these took, this was a real good call. It set them both onto paths where one became an instantly credible monster and the other found a good foundation to become a bit more of an underdog. Starks is just obviously great, obviously strong, obviously fast, but it gave him a lot of much-needed vulnerability to have to power through and it rounds him out really well to have trait. Which I didn't understand because wasn't it being said anyway Starks was injured coming into that event. Regardless, the story has set itself up well. Starks basically hit the reset button and worked from zero for his babyface run while Hobbs has set himself up as a monster. Their eventual rematch will see where both stands and hopefully it is a TNT championship match between the two |
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Post by government mule on Nov 24, 2022 17:54:58 GMT -5
Negan, I am begging you, an entire thread got locked over how hard so many people disagree with you about this There are thousands of screaming fans for Ricky Starks, have you considered that believability isn't objective? Have you considered that all of those thousands of people and we who disagreed in that thread 'don't count' because Craig Guywhosreal believes a pro wrestler is 6'20 and scoffed when he saw a guy who looks human-shaped? Because sure those thousands of people bought tickets, we tuned in to the show, but Craig Guywhosreal is the heart of our society and if he's not into this one specific hobby then it's really just a niche failure. Just got off the phone with HBK and he said that 'Craig Guywhosreal & The Casuals' are debuting in NXT next week. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 24, 2022 19:20:51 GMT -5
What I saw was mostly dissatisfaction with it being a squash, and I get that. But especially now that we've seen the trajectories these took, this was a real good call. It set them both onto paths where one became an instantly credible monster and the other found a good foundation to become a bit more of an underdog. Starks is just obviously great, obviously strong, obviously fast, but it gave him a lot of much-needed vulnerability to have to power through and it rounds him out really well to have trait. Which I didn't understand because wasn't it being said anyway Starks was injured coming into that event. Regardless, the story has set itself up well. Starks basically hit the reset button and worked from zero for his babyface run while Hobbs has set himself up as a monster. Their eventual rematch will see where both stands and hopefully it is a TNT championship match between the two I didn't like the squash because I simply paid partly to see that match, not an angle |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 24, 2022 22:48:12 GMT -5
The only real problems I have with Starks are that it feels like he could use a bit more fleshing out of an individual identity and his spear is pretty weak. Past those two things, neither of which really bugs me that much, he's great.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 24, 2022 23:07:03 GMT -5
The only real problems I have with Starks are that it feels like he could use a bit more fleshing out of an individual identity and his spear is pretty weak. Past those two things, neither of which really bugs me that much, he's great. The spear looks good as a launch against smaller guys Might as well rip Dragunov and use his head as a missle. Or use some type of strike so it works on small and bigger wrestlers |
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 24, 2022 23:11:54 GMT -5
The only real problems I have with Starks are that it feels like he could use a bit more fleshing out of an individual identity and his spear is pretty weak. Past those two things, neither of which really bugs me that much, he's great. The spear looks good as a launch against smaller guys Might as well rip Dragunov and use his head as a missle. Or use some type of strike so it works on small and bigger wrestlers I did like his spear on Lance Archer that he transitioned into a rollup. I think his biggest strength is that he throws himself like a missile for it, but yeah, the Roshambo's his main finish for a reason, it's the better match ender. |
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Post by Richard on Nov 24, 2022 23:14:34 GMT -5
The only real problems I have with Starks are that it feels like he could use a bit more fleshing out of an individual identity and his spear is pretty weak. Past those two things, neither of which really bugs me that much, he's great. The spear looks good as a launch against smaller guys Might as well rip Dragunov and use his head as a missle. Or use some type of strike so it works on small and bigger wrestlers Given his neck issues, I would go away from that. Honestly Ricky's body holding up is my only worry with him. Still can't believe this is the guy I saw teaming with Aaron Solo in Austin as Extra Talent-ed. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 24, 2022 23:29:55 GMT -5
The spear looks good as a launch against smaller guys Might as well rip Dragunov and use his head as a missle. Or use some type of strike so it works on small and bigger wrestlers Given his neck issues, I would go away from that. Honestly Ricky's body holding up is my only worry with him. Still can't believe this is the guy I saw teaming with Aaron Solo in Austin as Extra Talent-ed. Not that it'd necessarily protect him from injury, but maybe he should consider getting a submission hold for if he opts to slow it down a little sometimes. |
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Post by bob on Nov 24, 2022 23:30:58 GMT -5
strap a rocket on Swerve
he has everything to be a main event level heel for the company
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Post by One of the Cooler, Candid TOKs on Nov 24, 2022 23:43:40 GMT -5
The spear looks good as a launch against smaller guys Might as well rip Dragunov and use his head as a missle. Or use some type of strike so it works on small and bigger wrestlers I did like his spear on Lance Archer that he transitioned into a rollup. I think his biggest strength is that he throws himself like a missile for it, but yeah, the Roshambo's his main finish for a reason, it's the better match ender. I'm of the belief that the spear should be retired for a little in general due to overuse but that spear/roll up combo is super smooth and a good secondary finish/near fall |
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Post by Fade on Nov 24, 2022 23:55:28 GMT -5
strap a rocket on Swerve he has everything to be a main event level heel for the company Honestly, I’d say give it time. MJF’s going to have his reign..Swerve’s storytelling in LU got him massively over. And it was all him. What we’re already seeing with Lee is damn good. Give him a year, let him run his angles, he’ll easily get himself to that position. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 25, 2022 3:18:49 GMT -5
I want the next heel world champion to be Swerve
Either whoever beats Max for it loses it to Swerve or if Max eventually goes babyface Swerve out heels him for it because he got soft
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 25, 2022 5:56:57 GMT -5
Swerve or Hobbs as the next heel champ is fine with me.
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