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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2023 6:35:50 GMT -5
Hobbs’ TNT title run was done the moment he won it. I think they underestimated how much of momentum killer QT would be. It immediately dropped Hobbs down a peg by association, made only worse by the QTV stuff. My advice would be to have a segment where Hobbs destroys everyone in that group and have him move on.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 26, 2023 7:19:08 GMT -5
Hobbs’ TNT title run was done the moment he won it. I think they underestimated how much of momentum killer QT would be. It immediately dropped Hobbs down a peg by association, made only worse by the QTV stuff. My advice would be to have a segment where Hobbs destroys everyone in that group and have him move on. I would almost consider it worth getting QT's piss-stained hands on Hobbs if he then murders that entire stable in one segment. Easy come, easy go That Hobbs/QTV pairing is a dud Swerve has done really nothing Keith Lee swears he is Pucci QTV felt like death for Hobbs from the jump, but he legit was just a transitional champion between the same one guy. FFS. Swerve should be in the main event, Keith should be in the main event. Keith doesn't even have a long match? He can just lose the match? And it's not like I'm saying strap Swerve up immediately. And look, Jay White just showed up, so we're f***ed. The queue to being a main eventer in AEW just keeps getting longer. But I'm not advocating for hot shotting the title belt to a black guy with no build. But how do we not have a single, notable, permanent main eventer of colour in AEW yet?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 26, 2023 8:50:55 GMT -5
Just reading the last couple pages I think 2 things can be true at once. The diversity in AEW as a whole has gotten better but they do need more diversity in the title scenes... and yes I do think Hobbs was done dirty with the reign (even if it was the plan for awhile)
Also saw a post saying this thread only gets bumped when someone of color loses or wins a title. I wanted to say I think 99.999% of the posts have been in good faith and constructive criticism without being overly negative towards AEW... atleast IMO it has for awhile. I don't think it was in this thread but only rime I felt any argument was in bad faith was when people talked about the Gunns winning the titles from the Acclaimed.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2023 22:31:31 GMT -5
AEW we got to talk. Homie wearing blackface got me crying, Bucks ended racism but at what cost
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on May 28, 2023 22:55:29 GMT -5
If it were a pure black mask it would be bad enough but the RED ON THE LIPS ARE YOU f***ING KIDDING ME TONY?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2023 22:57:06 GMT -5
If it were a pure black mask it would be bad enough but the RED ON THE LIPS ARE YOU f***ING KIDDING ME TONY? It wasn't a good look Someone didn't see that and go bro this isn't it. At least don't paint the bottom of your face black too if you going to wear the mask
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on May 28, 2023 22:58:14 GMT -5
If it were a pure black mask it would be bad enough but the RED ON THE LIPS ARE YOU f***ING KIDDING ME TONY? It was clearly supposed to be like a bloodied mouth because it carried down his chin and neck Like... it wasn't actually blackface, it was supposed to be one of those weird heavy metal looks, obviously the guy might need to take his look back to the lab lol
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2023 23:00:15 GMT -5
If it were a pure black mask it would be bad enough but the RED ON THE LIPS ARE YOU f***ING KIDDING ME TONY? It was clearly supposed to be like a bloodied mouth because it carried down his chin and neck Like... it wasn't actually blackface, it was supposed to be one of those weird heavy metal looks, obviously the guy might need to take his look back to the lab lol It was blackface, don't pick this hill to die on bro lol They f***ed up on this one. Wasn't intended to come off that way but it did
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on May 28, 2023 23:02:38 GMT -5
It was clearly supposed to be like a bloodied mouth because it carried down his chin and neck Like... it wasn't actually blackface, it was supposed to be one of those weird heavy metal looks, obviously the guy might need to take his look back to the lab lol It was blackface, don't pick this hill to die on bro lol They f***ed up on this one. Wasn't intended to come off that way but it did It wasn't INTENTIONALLY blackface, like there's no way they'd put a dude out there with it intending to come off like that at all I think it's memeable, but people are acting like the band intended to do it or AEW made a huge mistake... I don't see how this was intentionally done in any way and they didn't see it going the way it did, clearly.
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Post by FinalGwen on May 28, 2023 23:05:04 GMT -5
It was blackface, don't pick this hill to die on bro lol They f***ed up on this one. Wasn't intended to come off that way but it did It wasn't INTENTIONALLY blackface, like there's no way they'd put a dude out there with it intending to come off like that at all I think it's memeable, but people are acting like the band intended to do it or AEW made a huge mistake... I don't see how this was intentionally done in any way and they didn't see it going the way it did, clearly. It clearly did make a huge mistake, because we had a guy in pretty blatant blackface on our screens. Everyone in my Discord call all went silent like 'what the actual ****' at the same time, and seems like the same response across the internet, and nobody in the back was there to go "Ehhhh, maybe this is a bad move?"
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2023 23:06:14 GMT -5
It was blackface, don't pick this hill to die on bro lol They f***ed up on this one. Wasn't intended to come off that way but it did It wasn't INTENTIONALLY blackface, like there's no way they'd put a dude out there with it intending to come off like that at all I think it's memeable, but people are acting like the band intended to do it or AEW made a huge mistake... I don't see how this was intentionally done in any way and they didn't see it going the way it did, clearly. Intentional or not, it was what it was. If no one in the back saw that as a problem that's an even bigger problem Blissful ignorance is not really an excuse for blackface tho. He didn't mean it sure great but everyone and their mother knew that was a bad look when he came on stage Like I look at it as a joke because no f***ing way can that shit fly in todays age. It was clearly a big mistake but one they can't act like didn't happen either
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Post by Gawk Rivers on May 28, 2023 23:06:26 GMT -5
HOW DID THIS DUDE MAKE IT THRU THE DAMN HALLWAY LET ALONE ON STAGE 💀
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on May 28, 2023 23:06:55 GMT -5
A bad look at a time when people are already looking to rake Tony over the coals about stuff. Something easily avoided. Shame something stupid like this overshadowed an otherwise amazing match.
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on May 28, 2023 23:07:11 GMT -5
It wasn't INTENTIONALLY blackface, like there's no way they'd put a dude out there with it intending to come off like that at all I think it's memeable, but people are acting like the band intended to do it or AEW made a huge mistake... I don't see how this was intentionally done in any way and they didn't see it going the way it did, clearly. It clearly did make a huge mistake, because we had a guy in pretty blatant blackface on our screens. Everyone in my Discord call all went silent like 'what the actual ****' at the same time, and seems like the same response across the internet, and nobody in the back was there to go "Ehhhh, maybe this is a bad move?" Idk the band well enough to know if this is the dude's normal look or if he chose a bad color scheme, but it clearly seems to be "Mask, bottom paint, and then a stripe down the mouth/chin Maybe he went black and red because of the BCC colors? The other members of the band went different, but I don't think this was intentional by any of them Clearly it backfired, idk if they'll issue an apology or anything, but there's no way anyone saw the optics of it before going out there, or it wouldn't have happened.
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on May 28, 2023 23:08:25 GMT -5
It wasn't INTENTIONALLY blackface, like there's no way they'd put a dude out there with it intending to come off like that at all I think it's memeable, but people are acting like the band intended to do it or AEW made a huge mistake... I don't see how this was intentionally done in any way and they didn't see it going the way it did, clearly. Intentional or not, it was what it was. If no one in the back saw that as a problem that's an even bigger problem Blissful ignorance is not really an excuse for blackface tho. He didn't mean it sure great but everyone and their mother knew that was a bad look when he came on stage Like I look at it as a joke because no f***ing way can that shit fly in todays age. It was clearly a big mistake but one they can't act like didn't happen either The irony about it all really is Acclaimed made a "Blackface" joke about Malakai Black's makeup, and then this happened Sometimes life finds a way to make its own joke lol
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2023 23:08:40 GMT -5
For reference for people that didn't see the show
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on May 28, 2023 23:09:00 GMT -5
A bad look at a time when people are already looking to rake Tony over the coals about stuff. Something easily avoided. Shame something stupid like this overshadowed an otherwise amazing match. I don't think it overshadowed the match tbh, but it's clearly been a sticking point for obvious reasons
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Post by MrElijah on May 28, 2023 23:09:01 GMT -5
HOW DID THIS DUDE MAKE IT THRU THE DAMN HALLWAY LET ALONE ON STAGE 💀 This is why quality control is important folks.
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Post by Gawk Rivers on May 28, 2023 23:09:20 GMT -5
I WASN'T PREPARED TO SEE IT AGAIN OH MY GOD
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Post by Kalmia on May 28, 2023 23:09:22 GMT -5
Whatever the intentions are, you can't go out there with your face painted black. It should be one of those universal things that everyone knows and agrees on.
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