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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2023 23:24:50 GMT -5
Oh we can def discuss that for sure but I been giving it a little bit of waiting time before bringing that up and seeing if anyone got momentum in the next month or so Like, I love Wardlow but why give up on Hobbs that quickly? The QT stuff did him no favors obviously, but Holy hell that collapsed so quickly. No offense to Jade but she should have dropped it to Willow during one of her 50 rematches, so I was just happy to see the TBS title go to anyone else at this point. Acclaimed is a weird one where before they won the titles everyone was howling about FTR not being champs, then we were howling how there wasn't an audible called during their first match with Swerve in Our Glory, so the tag title division is a mess in it's own weird way. Definitely do think they deserve another run with it and not drop it to the lame ass Gunns this time. The Hobbs push just seems weird. Like they didn't have a concrete plan, everything is about Wardlow for better or worse Jade needed to drop the title, just way she did it was meh Acclaimed and Swerve I am more worried about. Acclaimed got so over they forced a title change and lost the title so Ass Boys and FTR can get their runs. Swerve is stuck in a never ending feud with Keith Lee (who I will keep saying has a horrible ass look right now) |
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Post by champchumpchange on May 28, 2023 23:25:49 GMT -5
Maybe you shouldn't tell black posters how to feel either. I could tell you the same thing, considering I myself am a black poster. All the more the reason to let people express themselves however they wish. |
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Post by lucas_lee on May 28, 2023 23:25:58 GMT -5
Maybe you shouldn't tell black posters how to feel either. I could tell you the same thing, considering I myself am a black poster. You're the one bringing absolutes into it buddy. You're entitled to have your feelings but don't speaking for others who might find it offensive. And I'm not trying to downplay your race. I'm just saying don't go there. |
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Post by champchumpchange on May 28, 2023 23:26:40 GMT -5
 Here's a picture from twitter just to show what I mean That what people are bitching about? Im guessing noone seen Slipknot, Mushroomhead, Mudvayne, or any other masked band before. Hell Corey Taylor even wore a mask similar to this before. You don’t see how black face and red lips might bother some people? |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 28, 2023 23:27:07 GMT -5
Conflating ideas to paint the people you disagree with as ingenuously making a bigger deal about issue X solely because they're mad about issue Y is just coming in to the thread in bad faith from the jump.
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Post by kingoftheindies on May 28, 2023 23:28:09 GMT -5
Honestly hate to say this but I feel this thread has taken the turn from being a thread that was a very valid criticism of a diversity issue of AEW and what needed to be improved and has gone the way of the old women's threads that would get locked.
I think this has long gone the way of being a productive thread sadly
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2023 23:28:23 GMT -5
Conflating ideas to paint the people you disagree with as ingenuously making a bigger deal about issue X solely because they're mad about issue Y is just coming in to the thread in bad faith from the jump. The usual BS Like if you want to defend it by all means but don't try to hijack the thread with combative BS |
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Post by jm on May 28, 2023 23:28:30 GMT -5
I could tell you the same thing, considering I myself am a black poster. All the more the reason to let people express themselves however they wish. I never said people weren't allowed to express how they feel. I was saying that maybe people should calm down for a second and think rationally about this. |
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on May 28, 2023 23:28:46 GMT -5
Here's a picture from twitter just to show what I mean That what people are bitching about? Im guessing noone seen Slipknot, Mushroomhead, Mudvayne, or any other masked band before. Hell Corey Taylor even wore a mask similar to this before. It looked really bad on TV. Much worse than it does in still photos. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2023 23:29:29 GMT -5
Honestly hate to say this but I feel this thread has taken the turn from being a thread that was a very valid criticism of a diversity issue of AEW and what needed to be improved and has gone the way of the old women's threads that would get locked. I think this has long gone the way of being a productive thread sadly Based upon how last time I updated the thread I was lowkey called a hater I would say somewhat so I want to get the thread back to critical thinking but there is always going to be people trying to sidetrack it |
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on May 28, 2023 23:29:47 GMT -5
Here's a picture from twitter just to show what I mean That what people are bitching about? Im guessing noone seen Slipknot, Mushroomhead, Mudvayne, or any other masked band before. Hell Corey Taylor even wore a mask similar to this before. That is a closeup picture, and at this point most people are saying it was stupid not burn down AEW. On the show, for most of the shots, it looked pretty tasteless from the viewpoints they were showing it. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on May 28, 2023 23:31:35 GMT -5
I really do think it should be made pretty clear that I don't see most people saying AEW did this with any intention, or even the band doing it with any intention
People here and most people elsewhere are simply bringing up the point that it's bad optics, not that AEW should be ashamed of themselves or the company should rot or whatever, but that they should simply be made aware that what they and or the band thought looked good, didn't look good, so they never do it again.
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Post by jm on May 28, 2023 23:31:42 GMT -5
I could tell you the same thing, considering I myself am a black poster. You're the one bringing absolutes into it buddy. You're entitled to have your feelings but don't speaking for others who might find it offensive. And I'm not trying to downplay your race. I'm just saying don't go there. If anyone shouldn't "go there", it's you for automatically thinking I'm white because I didn't subscribe to the group think on this issue. Excuse me for having my own opinion. I'm just gonna bow out of this thread. It's obvious that you can't have an opinion on this outside of everything else without being labeled akin to an Uncle Tom. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on May 28, 2023 23:33:04 GMT -5
Honestly hate to say this but I feel this thread has taken the turn from being a thread that was a very valid criticism of a diversity issue of AEW and what needed to be improved and has gone the way of the old women's threads that would get locked. I think this has long gone the way of being a productive thread sadly Based upon how last time I updated the thread I was lowkey called a hater I would say somewhat so I want to get the thread back to critical thinking but there is always going to be people trying to sidetrack it Which I think is respectable, unfortunately I think there are some who rather than discuss the diversity and what needs to improve, would rather use it as a reason to hate on AEW. THere's a fine line and while I've never seen you do anything of the sort (far from it), the plot for some was lost a while ago. |
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Post by lucas_lee on May 28, 2023 23:33:54 GMT -5
You're the one bringing absolutes into it buddy. You're entitled to have your feelings but don't speaking for others who might find it offensive. And I'm not trying to downplay your race. I'm just saying don't go there. If anyone shouldn't "go there", it's you for automatically thinking I'm white because I didn't subscribe to the group think on this issue. Excuse me for having my own opinion. I'm just gonna bow out of this thread. It's obvious that you can't have an opinion on this outside of everything else without being labeled akin to an Uncle Tom. Nobody said that but okay go off bud. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on May 28, 2023 23:34:11 GMT -5
That what people are bitching about? Im guessing noone seen Slipknot, Mushroomhead, Mudvayne, or any other masked band before. Hell Corey Taylor even wore a mask similar to this before. That is a closeup picture, and at this point most people are saying it was stupid not burn down AEW. On the show, for most of the shots, it looked pretty tasteless from the viewpoints they were showing it. Yeah I think seeing more pictures the bigger issue was bad camera work on AEW more than anything. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2023 23:37:02 GMT -5
Based upon how last time I updated the thread I was lowkey called a hater I would say somewhat so I want to get the thread back to critical thinking but there is always going to be people trying to sidetrack it Which I think is respectable, unfortunately I think there are some who rather than discuss the diversity and what needs to improve, would rather use it as a reason to hate on AEW. THere's a fine line and while I've never seen you do anything of the sort (far from it), the plot for some was lost a while ago. I think the big problem is the problem that has always been there from the beginning Lack of diversity in AEW is a valid talking point BUT whenever you bring stuff up now you are either hating or acting in bad faith. This thread has been open for a while before they even got Swerve and Lee. Anything I have brought up has been in reference to topic at hand but anytime someone black losses supposedly the thread gets updated which isn't true This isn't a hate AEW thread nor do I want constant lovers of AEW either. I would like critical thinkers to contribute and have a solid discussion of something I believe should be a talking point |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on May 28, 2023 23:37:03 GMT -5
Honestly hate to say this but I feel this thread has taken the turn from being a thread that was a very valid criticism of a diversity issue of AEW and what needed to be improved and has gone the way of the old women's threads that would get locked. I think this has long gone the way of being a productive thread sadly Based upon how last time I updated the thread I was lowkey called a hater I would say somewhat so I want to get the thread back to critical thinking but there is always going to be people trying to sidetrack it Maybe this whole Blackface thing should have just had it's own thread to not muddy the actual intent of this one? Idk, I feel bad that your intentions have been skewed, but it's definitely overpowered the other discussions and probably will now that it's become the prevelent topic Does that mean it should be locked? That'd be up to mods, but I know you don't make threads without a point, you're one of the best people to talk to here about most anything. I know when I've said stuff you've helped me see the other perspective, here was just another example tbh, you are the farthest thing from a "hater" lol |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 28, 2023 23:37:23 GMT -5
If anyone shouldn't "go there", it's you for automatically thinking I'm white because I didn't subscribe to the group think on this issue. Excuse me for having my own opinion. I'm just gonna bow out of this thread. It's obvious that you can't have an opinion on this outside of everything else without being labeled akin to an Uncle Tom. Nobody said that but okay go off bud. Arrive Accuse everyone of overreacting Overreact yourself Leave |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on May 28, 2023 23:38:10 GMT -5
Nobody said that but okay go off bud. Arrive Accuse everyone of overreacting Overreact yourself Leave Can we make this an official shirt of FAN? Social Media in general tbh? |
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