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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 21:14:55 GMT -5
In this thread, we respectfully, discuss some of our opinions that go against the grain from others regarding any and all aspects of our favourite wrestling company.
Please note - some might not agree with your opinion. That’s fine. You may not agree with what you read - that’s also fine. Let’s try and not make this another one of those threads...
I’ll start - I foresee Ruby Soho failing very soon.
To me, her first few weeks are the prime example of a ‘honeymoon’ period. She’s getting pops, in my opinion, only because she was ‘miscast’ in WWE and probably deserved a better chance. I believe however that she has little to no charisma (having a different look does not equate charisma) - she never showed any hint of any in the WWE (plenty of misused/underused talent radiate charisma even though they aren’t constantly on TV - see Zelina Vega, etc.).
Her promos so far have been very generic and bland in their delivery and in their message - rehearsed even. Granted she’ll probably not compare to her current opponent in this feud, but still - she isn’t bringing much to the table by way of microphone work.
She’s got a good theme that will always get a pop - but like Robert Roode, while she’s in no way bad in the right - she’s very very bland IMO.
Happy for the individual getting to receive adulation she probably never thought she’d ever get, but I don’t believe she is anywhere near the top of the division - Britt, Rosa, Kris Statlander, Hikari Shida, Jade Cargill, Nyla, Jamie Hayter and Tay Conti are all heads and shoulders above Ruby in my opinion.
Now you go!
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Sept 12, 2021 22:01:25 GMT -5
QT Marshall is very good and deserves the spotlight he gets on TV.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 12, 2021 22:06:26 GMT -5
Miro was good even before the Kip wedding, but that was definitely where the other shoe dropped with him in a way that'd make no sense if he just debuted like that. Kip latched onto him as a best friend to try to benefit from Miro, and only at the wedding does his character realize the steep price.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Sept 12, 2021 22:06:52 GMT -5
I far from disagree about your take on Ruby. I hope I’m wrong though.
- Dark Order after the Hangman stuff plays out should split or do something different.
- I don’t know how unpopular it is but Rampage 100% does not feel like another “A” show.
- Pentagons initial heel solo thing sucked. Part presentation and part the character. The way things played out with Fenix was perfect and one day if Penta betrays Fenix, it could be a wonderful lead-in to a successful solo run.
- I consistently enjoy JR on different levels.
- Andrade’s been kind of underwhelming.
- love Pillman JR and who he appears to be in real life but I do not think he’s suited for “plucky babyface with fire” role. Combination of in-ring work and how he comes off as a performer. He’s fine in the Varsity Squad but I think the guy might be better suited as a heel.
- Sammys better as heel
- Over the Inner Circle, Matt Hardy’s group and the Nightmare Family Factory Fiasco.
- Guys like 10 and Hobbs should get some live promo time, even if it’s short, to help flesh out the guys characters. I get it if it’s not being done to protect them but sooner than later you gotta throw ‘em out there and see if they can fly.
- I’ve come to enjoy Spears the more they’ve embraced all the negative meta stuff (plus his sexual fetish with chairs).
- I thought All Out was a great PPV. Thoroughly entertaining and the “surprises” were cool but I think some of the praise was a bit too much.
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Sept 12, 2021 22:07:20 GMT -5
I'm over the crowd singing Judas.
It was fantastic at first. Then the pandemic era hit, and Sammy Guevara got to sing it and it was amazing. Then crowds came back and it was resplendent.
Then they did the "no Judas" entrance where they pushed every button to make sure the crowd sang. And that was the peak. Then All Put happened. The crowd... I don't know if it was that the crowd wasn't as into the live playing as they are when they're just singing with the backing track, or if the crowds just didn't sing along with the song until the "I'm become.. I'm become.. I'm becoming" part, but that it was the moment I was completely over the entrance. (Having an identical Jericho reaction to the karaoke Judas and All Out Judas didn't help matters).
So yeah... there it is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 22:10:47 GMT -5
I kinda like QT Marshall now. I guess it helps that he had been feuding with Paul Wight and I'd root for almost anybody against him.
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Post by pippen94 on Sept 12, 2021 22:16:51 GMT -5
In this thread, we respectfully, discuss some of our opinions that go against the grain from others regarding any and all aspects of our favourite wrestling company. Please note - some might not agree with your opinion. That’s fine. You may not agree with what you read - that’s also fine. Let’s try and not make this another one of those threads... I’ll start - I foresee Ruby Soho failing very soon. To me, her first few weeks are the prime example of a ‘honeymoon’ period. She’s getting pops, in my opinion, only because she was ‘miscast’ in WWE and probably deserved a better chance. I believe however that she has little to no charisma (having a different look does not equate charisma) - she never showed any hint of any in the WWE (plenty of misused/underused talent radiate charisma even though they aren’t constantly on TV - see Zelina Vega, etc.). Her promos so far have been very generic and bland in their delivery and in their message - rehearsed even. Granted she’ll probably not compare to her current opponent in this feud, but still - she isn’t bringing much to the table by way of microphone work. She’s got a good theme that will always get a pop - but like Robert Roode, while she’s in no way bad in the right - she’s very very bland IMO. Happy for the individual getting to receive adulation she probably never thought she’d ever get, but I don’t believe she is anywhere near the top of the division - Britt, Rosa, Kris Statlander, Hikari Shida, Jade Cargill, Nyla, Jamie Hayter and Tay Conti are all heads and shoulders above Ruby in my opinion. Now you go! If she's got it she'll get a chance to show it in aew. We only know what ppl can do if given chance
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Post by Chiral on Sept 12, 2021 22:17:49 GMT -5
The specific brand of discourse AEW generates internet wide is generally depressing to me and makes me consider just watching it and not engaging online as much with the fanbase. :/
Edit: OK this got a lot of likes so it may not be unpopular so feel free to disregard here lol
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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Sept 12, 2021 22:19:36 GMT -5
I kinda like QT Marshall now. I guess it helps that he had been feuding with Paul Wight and I'd root for almost anybody against him. His Kevin James Tony Soprano factor grew on me and now when he's on I'm just like oh hey nice to see u
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Post by Glitch on Sept 12, 2021 22:26:18 GMT -5
Penta and Fenix work better as separate acts. They both can play different alignments, but Penta is way better as a heel, and Fenix is way better as a face. The luchas brothers team is something that only works on special occasions and not as an on going tag team. Honestly. I feel like they hold each other back when teamed together.
On that note, Penta should be booked the same away as he was in Lucha Underground (albeit adjusted to AEW's reality). Same with Bryan Cage. Tony Khan seems to have taken inspiration from every promotion except LU. Which is sad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 22:35:18 GMT -5
The Elite storyline is going on way too long. I'm sure it's been partially extended so Hangman can get paternity leave, but good lord I'm tired of NWO #324
JR hasn't been THAT bad lately, and actively seems to be improving
Team Taz is basically one step above HFO in terms of being jobbers to the stars
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 22:35:54 GMT -5
Unpopular on this board - Scorpio Sky is a charismatic promo and solid in-ring worker who is deserving of the focus he’s gotten in AEW, and more. I hope MOTY are the ones to take the tag straps off of the Lucha Bros (after a lengthy reign of course).
On that note, I love Dan Lambert’s crotchety living embodiment of r/scjerk heel gimmick. He’s fun to root against and hate.
I’ll echo that QT is a solid hand and a good heel, but that seems to be becoming a popular opinion.
I don’t care for Darby Allin, and find him to be the most lackluster of AEW’s young “home grown” stars.
I think Max Caster has future world championship potential.
Chaos Project is genuinely one of my favorite acts on the roster.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 12, 2021 23:38:02 GMT -5
Wingman are dynamite worthy ,beyond a comedy jobber group.
Britt is slight overrated,thats not to say she isnt really good , but she go an ungodly amount of focus compared to any other women and got triple the chances which would have been better used building morw peoplw. At least the company managed to make to justify the push with the reactions and numbers she get ,unlike someone like Charlotte which i think is a fair comparison as they basically get way more focus than anyone of their division.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Sept 13, 2021 0:02:46 GMT -5
Darby Allin is a turd.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2021 0:11:03 GMT -5
- I cant stand 2.0. Nothing about them is entertaining to me especially the weird quasi Macho Man impression. - Ethan Page will be AEW World champion one day - AEW still has severe production and timing issues...Almost every show someone will be out of place or miss their queue to go to break or end a segment. Multiple times a night the workers will be confused on what tunnel to use. - The production issue leads into Excalibur being great at calling the in ring action but not a television show. He has a very hard time adjusting to the match bumpers and upcoming schedule while calling what he sees and routinely takes me out of scenes. The boy simply struggles to pay the bills. - Orange Cassidy is so much better toned down like this as compared to the active selling of all his offense (or lack thereof?) - Omega is a once in a lifetime talent in the ring but is extremely awkward out of the ring. I do not get his charisma at all. - The Good Brothers serve no purpose whatsoever and havent for quite some time. - It should be Adam Cole's HBK to Omega's HHH from now on - Moxley should only use Wild Thing for his gimmick matches - My issue with Nyla isn't that she is transgender it's that she isn't charismatic or interesting in the ring. - Cage doing the cruiserweight moves hurts him - It has gotten better but the refs have no authority
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Sept 13, 2021 0:19:07 GMT -5
Matt Hardy turned heel way too soon. The Broken gimmick's still got legs.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Sept 13, 2021 0:19:36 GMT -5
Orange Cassidy does not have what it takes, as a gimmick, to be world champion. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a super over veteran upper midcarder, he'd be badly exposed if he went on top of the card.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 13, 2021 0:27:23 GMT -5
I think QT Marshall is a really great worker and has more than earned his spot on the AEW Roster and card
I don't think Scorpio Sky is awful. I don't even think he's THAT bland. He's always solid in ring.
I really like Dan Lambert's act for what it is. Can't wait to see him get his ass kicked.
I think JR actively still brings a lot to commentary even if he has an off call here or there.
You don't have to be the world champion or be pushed for the world title to matter in the company. As someone said above if Orange Cassidy never wins the title I don't think it will be seen as a grand loss. That being said... I still think at some point he might get a short run. He's at least gonna win the TNT and they'd be fools not to get that pop.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 13, 2021 0:28:39 GMT -5
Matt Hardy turned heel way too soon. The Broken gimmick's still got legs. I agree that the Broken Gimmick still has legs. But he actively said he didn't want to do it without fans He might have an out to return to it if Cassidy shaves his head...
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 13, 2021 0:32:07 GMT -5
The specific brand of discourse AEW generates internet wide is generally depressing to me and makes me consider just watching it and not engaging online as much with the fanbase. :/ It's incredibly odd discourse. It stems from fans happy they're finally enjoying wrestling after 20 years of apathy to diehards of the big brand trying to shame people or wish it dead so status quo can remain as is. On top of how simple criticism can just devolve into outright toxic arguments about what is a critique and what is white knighting... I do think AEW succeeding at a fast rate is giving some people this fuel on both sides. Like you however I really limit talking about it outside of FAN because some people have made it unhealthy obsession.
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