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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Oct 9, 2021 2:09:43 GMT -5
But they’re looking out for themselves. Every wrestling company is. I think it’s a bit naive to think that others wouldn’t do the same thing in WWE’s position. Everybody wants to rule the world Anything to back that claim up at all? AEW wants to work with the world. it may surprise you to discover WWE is run by scumbags All of those deals that AEW makes are extremely advantageous to them and they’ve come out on top of every single one. They play nice under the guise of “helping others out” but make no mistake who’s the one under the heel when it’s all said and done. If there ever comes a day where Impact is on the come up and is competing for tv slots, it won’t be the same game. No one is running a charity. Also who was even taaaaalking about AEW?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 9, 2021 2:33:48 GMT -5
Anything to back that claim up at all? AEW wants to work with the world. it may surprise you to discover WWE is run by scumbags All of those deals that AEW makes are extremely advantageous to them and they’ve come out on top of every single one. They play nice under the guise of “helping others out” but make no mistake who’s the one under the heel when it’s all said and done. If there ever comes a day where Impact is on the come up and is competing for tv slots, it won’t be the same game. No one is running a charity. Also who was even taaaaalking about AEW? People were talking about AEW on literally page one, well before Ringmaster did, when it came to comparisons about how either company works with partners or literally tried to cut their heads off before they can begin. Which is pretty fair imo. And let's talk about how AEW's treated other companies that have come in since you've painted a pretty negative picture. All the promotions that interacted with AEW have gotten national TV exposure for their championships and some of their wrestlers as well. I don't see how AEW is crushing anyone under their heels in these deals when AEW doesn't have to advertise a single company, they don't need to let their workers wrestle for them or be their champions, or work other indie dates either... but they do. They have promoted several promotions at this point from New Japan to GCW in bigger and smaller ways. No one is competing against one another. That's the difference. Everyone wants to try and strengthen their companies in mutually beneficial ways. That's the pretty clear difference as to where WWE is like a WalMart who just wants to eat everything. Imo if it's a shithead thing to do then they deserve to be shit on for it. Just like any other big corporation. It's understandable why in the bleakest sense, and that doesn't make it right. MLW at the very least ended up getting their VICE deal so it worked out in the end. Shit like this is why I'm really glad WWE didn't partner with New Japan in any way. You want a real under the heel moment? That probably would have been it.
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Post by The Ichi on Oct 9, 2021 2:59:58 GMT -5
Business.
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Post by HMARK Center on Oct 9, 2021 6:36:39 GMT -5
But also, synergy. Plus advanced analytics.
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Post by wildojinx on Oct 9, 2021 6:43:52 GMT -5
Looking at Tubi, while they do have some non-WWE wrestling stuff, the only one that's from a still-active promotion is CZW, and those are just "best of" comps.
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Post by xCompackx on Oct 9, 2021 8:20:19 GMT -5
Deals that help other companies as well as your own interests don't have to be mutually exclusive concepts.
But yeah, WWE just isn't going to be a company who wants to work with anyone else. They still view all this shit as competition.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 9, 2021 8:26:11 GMT -5
MLW being sandwiched between Yugioh Arc-V and Nostradamus: Beyond the Prophecies on what can politely be referred to as a streaming service for the movies nobody else wants to get the rights to sure would be a big threat to WWE's position. Sure, WWE is under no requirement to work with anyone, but aside from the fact their network television deal is a galaxy away from what MLW would get, they're also under no requirement to actively go pulling whatever strings they can to f*** everyone else. WWE will make literally zero more dollars by stopping this.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Oct 9, 2021 9:02:10 GMT -5
Is that really necessary? It's literally a thread discussing their business practices then people freak out when they act like one. Personally I think it just highlights how out of touch business in America is. Preaching infinite growth on a finite planet with finite resources. Caring about numbers over people etc.. Or my favorite to most people the stock market going up means nothing yet it going down means they lose their job. Alot of people don't like seeing talented wrestlers be treated the same as a middle manager but that's where we are. That’s always been the aim of big business though. The goal is to collect all the money. So far no one has done it. Jeff Bezos has gotten the closest.
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Post by spagett on Oct 9, 2021 9:06:13 GMT -5
MLW being sandwiched between Yugioh Arc-V and Nostradamus: Beyond the Prophecies on what can politely be referred to as a streaming service for the movies nobody else wants to get the rights to sure would be a big threat to WWE's position. Sure, WWE is under no requirement to work with anyone, but aside from the fact their network television deal is a galaxy away from what MLW would get, they're also under no requirement to actively go pulling whatever strings they can to f*** everyone else. WWE will make literally zero more dollars by stopping this. But don't you remember? Vinces business philosophy is to be the best you can be but don't go out of your way to hurt others. I mean he's said that over and over on the millions of Monday night War documentaries, which is why what WCW did in the mid 90s was so evil. Unless he's just a liar and a giant hypocrite???
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 9, 2021 9:16:32 GMT -5
Unless he's just a liar and a giant hypocrite??? A major businessman being a liar and a hypocrite?! Next you'll be telling me YouTube is bad at regulating content.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Oct 9, 2021 9:21:29 GMT -5
Unless he's just a liar and a giant hypocrite??? A major businessman being a liar and a hypocrite?! Next you'll be telling me YouTube is bad at regulating content. Or Amazon let a bootleg get sold or Facebook is selling your information.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 9, 2021 9:22:19 GMT -5
A major businessman being a liar and a hypocrite?! Next you'll be telling me YouTube is bad at regulating content. Or Amazon let a bootleg get sold or Facebook is selling your information. Or Twitter can, in fact, actually ban Nazis from its service.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Oct 9, 2021 9:30:49 GMT -5
If business businesses business in the business, then you have to business the business into business business business so they can't business with the business who you business business with. Respect diz business!
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Post by Malcolm on Oct 9, 2021 9:42:04 GMT -5
Line go up!
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Post by Bad Moon on Oct 9, 2021 9:45:26 GMT -5
MLW being sandwiched between Yugioh Arc-V and Nostradamus: Beyond the Prophecies on what can politely be referred to as a streaming service for the movies nobody else wants to get the rights to sure would be a big threat to WWE's position. Sure, WWE is under no requirement to work with anyone, but aside from the fact their network television deal is a galaxy away from what MLW would get, they're also under no requirement to actively go pulling whatever strings they can to f*** everyone else. WWE will make literally zero more dollars by stopping this. Other people losing is more important to Vince than him gaining anything.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 9, 2021 10:44:37 GMT -5
You could make the argument that wrestling getting hot is good for everyone...but I don't think they think that. I think if they had their way they'd snuff out any chance of wrestling getting hot again. I think they view their fans as WWE fans and not wrestling fans. They don't want eyeballs on anything else even it its good for everyone. But they’re looking out for themselves. Every wrestling company is. I think it’s a bit naive to think that others wouldn’t do the same thing in WWE’s position. Everybody wants to rule the world No ita not naive ,you dont hear of njpw trying to close other japanese shows or AEW trying to get shows of fite.tv njpw and aew doesnt try to over and over kill other companies and kill the smaller scenes The most you could say is that Stardom gets a lot of other companies top talent but then you can draw a line of trying to get the best talent and straight up trying to stop other companies
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Post by An Dog On An Skateboard on Oct 9, 2021 10:50:15 GMT -5
Yes, it's business. No, that doesn't make it any less morally repugnant.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 9, 2021 10:52:07 GMT -5
Yes, it's business. No, that doesn't make it any less morally repugnant. I was literally going to type the same thing at the same time so thanks for making me write more than I wanted to for this post!
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 9, 2021 11:07:10 GMT -5
Yes, it's business. No, that doesn't make it any less morally repugnant. So bit of a weird deep dive story, but in my city there is a board/card/tabletop game shop some of my friends work for that is one of the bigger shops in the city and is a strong seller for Magic and Pokemon cards online. Across the island, there is another store (there's tons of others, but this one specifically) run by somebody who really wants to drive that store specifically out of business. This has led to a satellite store being set up literally across the street from this first store. Rumour around the local scene is that the store barely breaks even if that. That's not going into some alleged rumours of alleged malfeasance. The location seems to remain open just to draw any business at all away from that first store, directly to hurt them. That might just be "business" and "competition", but that doesn't necessarily make it good, and doesn't come without its drawbacks. Both stores can exist, along with multiple other hobby shops on this island with two million people living on it, but that's not 'good enough' for some people and thus, bullshit.
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Post by An Dog On An Skateboard on Oct 9, 2021 11:22:31 GMT -5
Yes, it's business. No, that doesn't make it any less morally repugnant. So bit of a weird deep dive story, but in my city there is a board/card/tabletop game shop some of my friends work for that is one of the bigger shops in the city and is a strong seller for Magic and Pokemon cards online. Across the island, there is another store (there's tons of others, but this one specifically) run by somebody who really wants to drive that store specifically out of business. This has led to a satellite store being set up literally across the street from this first store. Rumour around the local scene is that the store barely breaks even if that. That's not going into some alleged rumours of alleged malfeasance. The location seems to remain open just to draw any business at all away from that first store, directly to hurt them. That might just be "business" and "competition", but that doesn't necessarily make it good, and doesn't come without its drawbacks. Both stores can exist, along with multiple other hobby shops on this island with two million people living on it, but that's not 'good enough' for some people and thus, bullshit. It's pretty much how Starbucks operates, it opens near "competing" businesses and runs at a loss knowing that it can afford to, saturating the local market and driving independents out of business because they can't. This sort of predatory business is often defended as "competition", but it's not, in any other situation this kind of strongarming from a vastly more powerful competitor would be considered bullying.
#BeAStar, etc.
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