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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Apr 7, 2022 9:09:45 GMT -5
Meltzer said on Observer Radio that he was released for the Hitler photo. So… Asuka’s next for once dressing as a Nazi a decade or whatever ago, right?
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Apr 7, 2022 9:12:59 GMT -5
See my problem with the "oh it's just a joke" thing on the Hitler photo, is that even in my edgy teen years when I might have thought that was funny, I couldn't imagine doing it with a straight face.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 7, 2022 9:47:10 GMT -5
We started from ripping on Izzy’s dad to Nash Carter getting fired for spousal abuse accusations and dressing like Hitler. What the hell is gonna happen next? My guess is Kimber Lee starts dating Izzy 's dad. Because things aren't enough of a trainwreck yet and we have to find a way to get Chasyn Rance involved.
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Post by Marvelous1LUFC on Apr 7, 2022 10:12:21 GMT -5
He could have used the Wayne Hennessey excuse "of having no clue about nazi germany" And Wayne Hennessey is still number 1 goalkeeper for wales 😐
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Post by noobeast on Apr 7, 2022 10:16:55 GMT -5
Just a reminder that JBL once did a Nazi salute while goose stepping on the apron while performing in Germany.
He is still employed by the company and was inducted into the HOF last year.
This poor dude is getting absolutely railroaded by a f***ing crazy person, and it is complete bullshit.
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Post by mistery on Apr 7, 2022 10:21:43 GMT -5
Meltzer said on Observer Radio that he was released for the Hitler photo. So… Asuka’s next for once dressing as a Nazi a decade or whatever ago, right? Doubt it. People have already tried coming for her with that stuff and missed entirely. She's also apologized for that stuff. It was part of a character she played in Japan, which views nazism a hell of a lot differently than westerners do. There's a massive culture difference between the western world and Asia when it comes to this kind of stuff. www.vice.com/en/article/xd5bdd/nazis-chic-is-asias-offensive-fashion-craze-456Also in Japanese schools while they study WWII, its mainly focused on the Japanese side of things, they don't really touch on Germany and Italy much, if at all.
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Post by Celexa Bliss on Apr 7, 2022 10:35:09 GMT -5
We started from ripping on Izzy’s dad to Nash Carter getting fired for spousal abuse accusations and dressing like Hitler. What the hell is gonna happen next? We've still got to hear from Lince Dorado and maybe he got really in his shit after seeing The Batman and we're going to get a solid 15 more pages out of him being a cat-themed vigilante who actually just mostly follows Izzy's dad around swooshing his cape and banging empty tuna cans together to annoy him Re: Lince... youtu.be/6CYXmUagkx8
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 10:59:38 GMT -5
When stories like this break it's always so wild to me the amount of opinions along the lines of "these people are trash" or "this person is mentally ill" that get bandied about.
We don't know these people. We know literally nothing about them or their personal lives. I think when you fight your battles on social media, there's a certain level of deserved criticism, so I will certainly cast judgment for that, but in terms of who is "right" or who is "wrong" in the situation, I'm not saying a damn thing.
To me, it's exactly like the Darby Allin situation that crops up on a yearly basis with calls for his career to be ethered. This relationship was obviously extraordinarily toxic and is ending in a public meltdown. You walk a fine line when you start calling to end peoples' careers over relationship toxicity. In the social media age, where grievances that used to be aired behind closed doors are aired publicly, that line is even finer.
If he truly just got fired because of the Hitler photo, then I would say that WWE is wildly inconsistent with its handling of those kinds of situations, but what else is new?
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Post by Kalmia on Apr 7, 2022 11:14:15 GMT -5
Yeah, the Hitler photo would do it.
As for the domestic abuse accusations, I have no idea if they're true or not and I think it's very crass and unwise to comment on them.
As a general comment though, physical/verbal/sexual abuse in a relationship isn't straightforward. Nobody starts a relationship being abusive - that comes out later. The disconnect between someone being loving and someone being abusive is confusing, and something our brains aren't really wired to deal with. So accounts become confused and dates and events might get mixed up. People may say one thing while it's happening and then something completely different when they have distance. Searching through social media accounts to try and get people and find inconsistencies is not the gotcha that people think it is and only succeeds at creating a culture that stops victims from coming forward.
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Post by 67 more on Apr 7, 2022 11:22:30 GMT -5
So… Asuka’s next for once dressing as a Nazi a decade or whatever ago, right? Doubt it. People have already tried coming for her with that stuff and missed entirely. She's also apologized for that stuff. It was part of a character she played in Japan, which views nazism a hell of a lot differently than westerners do. There's a massive culture difference between the western world and Asia when it comes to this kind of stuff. www.vice.com/en/article/xd5bdd/nazis-chic-is-asias-offensive-fashion-craze-456Also in Japanese schools while they study WWII, its mainly focused on the Japanese side of things, they don't really touch on Germany and Italy much, if at all. And now I remember the original poster for NJPW Dominion 2009. No, I'm not linking it here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 11:25:40 GMT -5
Doubt it. People have already tried coming for her with that stuff and missed entirely. She's also apologized for that stuff. It was part of a character she played in Japan, which views nazism a hell of a lot differently than westerners do. There's a massive culture difference between the western world and Asia when it comes to this kind of stuff. www.vice.com/en/article/xd5bdd/nazis-chic-is-asias-offensive-fashion-craze-456Also in Japanese schools while they study WWII, its mainly focused on the Japanese side of things, they don't really touch on Germany and Italy much, if at all. And now I remember the original poster for NJPW Dominion 2009. No, I'm not linking it here. What, it was just paying homage to the Harris Brothers' completely innocent and non-racist tattoos!
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Post by Talent Name on Apr 7, 2022 11:38:55 GMT -5
Wait wait Dave Sexpest Crist is involved in this with Kimber somehow getting the photo.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Apr 7, 2022 12:02:31 GMT -5
He should have just promised the WWE $500 million dollars for a couple shows a year, then the Hitler stuff probably wouldn't have bothered them so much.
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Post by Legion on Apr 7, 2022 12:07:10 GMT -5
And this is why I keep that picture of my friend with a Hitler mustache.
Revenge for anything is just one 'send' away.
Hitler never fails. I said that is what he'd be getting fired for. Sponsors etc. wont go for it
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Post by darbus alan on Apr 7, 2022 12:23:51 GMT -5
I think people are missing that the issue with the photo isn't the mustache so much as the Heil Hitler salute he was doing on top of it.
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Post by pinja on Apr 7, 2022 12:33:33 GMT -5
Just saw the photo: He didn't only shave his beard like Hitler, he also made a funny face and showed the Nazi salute. How could he NOT be fired?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 12:47:39 GMT -5
Just saw the photo: He didn't only shave his beard like Hitler, he also made a funny face and showed the Nazi salute. How could he NOT be fired? I mean it was already brought up but ...looks over at JBL. And he did that IN GERMANY! not that doing it anywhere else makes it any less stupid etc but see where I am getting at here with this company and their inconsistent bullshit.
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Post by Dan Royal on Apr 7, 2022 12:49:19 GMT -5
If every edgy dude-bro was fired doing the "lol, I shaved my facial hair like Hitler" meme.
Then the entire economy might collapse.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 7, 2022 12:49:29 GMT -5
Just a reminder that JBL once did a Nazi salute while goose stepping on the apron while performing in Germany. He is still employed by the company and was inducted into the HOF last year. This poor dude is getting absolutely railroaded by a f***ing crazy person, and it is complete bullshit. You know the reason he was released. They didn't see enough value in him to be worth the trouble. Whatever happened that we know, what we don't, it comes down to what they see in him.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 7, 2022 12:50:45 GMT -5
Just saw the photo: He didn't only shave his beard like Hitler, he also made a funny face and showed the Nazi salute. How could he NOT be fired? I mean it was already brought up but ...looks over at JBL. And he did that IN GERMANY! not that doing it anywhere else makes it any less stupid etc but see where I am getting at here with this company and their inconsistent bullshit. Not inconsistent at all. If they like you or see value, you get away with it. It's the way its always been, probably always will.
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